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On one hand, the fact that a company can send an update that renders a device completely useless is concerning.

On the other hand, Samsung should have pushed this update months earlier considering the seriousness of the safety issues. The devices are like unexploded mines scattered across earth.
 
What are those in the 7% thinking? Why are they holding on to the device?

A whole range of reasons from rebellious nature to lost devices to denial to wanting them as a possible valuable collectors item someday. If it were me, it would be all of the above...and then some!
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I have one and there's nothing wrong with it. I won't send it back because I feel this situation was blown way out of proportion

Finally, someone with a sane and rational view of the whole affair.
 
Don't give apple ideas. Bricking devices that are no longer supported forcing you to buy new.
It's almost like that now when the require you to update to MacOS and iOS 10 to use their store or sync with your watch.
Otherwise you have a dead system that can hardly surf the web because everyone has obsoleted your hardware.
 
I won't send it back because I feel this situation was blown way out of proportion
So you're going to keep your phone that you can never update ever again instead of sending it in for a replacement?


Don't give apple ideas. Bricking devices that are no longer supported forcing you to buy new.
It's almost like that now when the require you to update to MacOS and iOS 10 to use their store or sync with your watch.
Otherwise you have a dead system that can hardly surf the web because everyone has obsoleted your hardware.
They don't have to do that. They simply drop support for older hardware.
 
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Ha ha ha... I'm 100% an Apple guy, but if I had one of these, and they sent out an update to brick it, I'd DEFINITELY be switching to another brand after this. Phones are way more than just a convenience anymore.... wow I'd be angry.
You sound like a spoiled kid. But it's ok, you've got the fast food chains to do you harm and not admit doing it.
 
To be honest I was never contacted "officially" about a recall. I only read about the recall online. So no attempts were made to actually get this "dangerous" device back from me.

A recall was sent out through all the major media as well as social media so that everyone would know. You absolutely know but want to play ignorant. I sincerely hope you do not have a potential time bomb in your possession. But you are being absolutely stupid and sentimental over something so trivial as a phone.
 
Ha ha ha... I'm 100% an Apple guy, but if I had one of these, and they sent out an update to brick it, I'd DEFINITELY be switching to another brand after this. Phones are way more than just a convenience anymore.... wow I'd be angry.

Yes. But I'd be one of the 93% of other people to be standing next to you with your illegal phone that might suddenly explode.

They promptly asked you to return it and offered some savings for compensation.. I seriously dont understand why people wont return it..

Hiccups happen in companies.. No matter the size. We, as Apple fans should cheer Samsung as they do push Apple to do better.
 
Finally, someone with a sane and rational view of the whole affair.
Rational? What's so rational keeping a recalled product with known safety risk? Even Samsung engineers acknowledged the risk and asked people to return it.

Americans voting for Trump, Britons voting for Brexit, I guess the they have both similar "logic" (or the lack of).
Good for Samsung to brick these devices. It is difficult to handle stupid.
 
I hope Samsung's mobile division can recover from this. Had this same thing happened to Apple, I think it would've destroyed them since so much of their business and profits are centered around the iPhone.

For all the blatant copying Samsung does of Apple, they also simultaneously force Apple to keep innovating with the iPhone. If there was no Samsung, I have a feeling Apple would be releasing new iPhones every two years at this point instead of every year.

At least Apple makes good quality phones that don't explode
 
On one hand, the fact that a company can send an update that renders a device completely useless is concerning.

As long as you can update any phone, it can be done. Apple's done it accidentally, and if they stopped signing other versions, it'd be permanent.

Yes. But I'd be one of the 93% of other people to be standing next to you with your illegal phone that might suddenly explode.

Unless you had your hand on his phone, you should be okay.

At least Apple makes good quality phones that don't explode

Any phone with lithium ion batteries can have the battery go into thermal overrun and burst into flame ("explode"). iPhones certainly have done so, just not as often.

In fact, no Note 7 phones caught fire while an airliner was in flight, whereas an iPhone has. No one has died from a Note fire ever, whereas at least one person has from an iPhone that caught fire while the victim was sleeping.

Who can miss a potential fire hazard? Nobody.

Millions of people around the world are likely still using Apple brand adapters that can shock or catch fire. It's easy to miss a recall.

The Note problem should not be downplayed, but it needn't be overdramatized either.
 

As long as you can update any phone, it can be done. Apple's done it accidentally, and if they stopped signing other versions, it'd be permanent.



Unless you had your hand on his phone, you should be okay.



Any phone with lithium ion batteries can have the battery go into thermal overrun and burst into flame ("explode"). iPhones certainly have done so, just not as often.

In fact, no Note 7 phones caught fire while an airliner was in flight, whereas an iPhone has. No one has died from a Note fire ever, whereas at least one person has from an iPhone that caught fire while the victim was sleeping.



Millions of people around the world are likely still using Apple brand adapters that can shock or catch fire. It's easy to miss a recall.

The Note problem should not be downplayed, but it needn't be overdramatized either.

Note 7 caught fire on a Southwest Airlines flight. They had to replace the carpet and repair the plane where it ended up on the floor.
 

As long as you can update any phone, it can be done. Apple's done it accidentally, and if they stopped signing other versions, it'd be permanent.



Unless you had your hand on his phone, you should be okay.



Any phone with lithium ion batteries can have the battery go into thermal overrun and burst into flame ("explode"). iPhones certainly have done so, just not as often.

In fact, no Note 7 phones caught fire while an airliner was in flight, whereas an iPhone has. No one has died from a Note fire ever, whereas at least one person has from an iPhone that caught fire while the victim was sleeping.



Millions of people around the world are likely still using Apple brand adapters that can shock or catch fire. It's easy to miss a recall.

The Note problem should not be downplayed, but it needn't be overdramatized either.

Dramatisation? When i'm boarding a plain and security must be called to 'convince' people that their note 7s aren't going on board with them.
 
Note 7 caught fire on a Southwest Airlines flight. They had to replace the carpet and repair the plane where it ended up on the floor.

Right, and everyone calmly walked back up the jetway. No big deal. iPhones and other devices have done the same thing while an airliner was still on the ground, and people evacuated in the same easy way.

However, my friend, note that I specified it happening "while an airliner was in flight" ;)

Walking off a plane to get away from the smoke is different from say, that iPhone 6 that caught fire (and worse, got kicked flaming under someone's seat!) while over the Pacific and still 90 minutes out from Honolulu.

Of course, in neither case were passengers truly in danger, as we know from the decades of history of this kind of thing happening in airliner cabins. Modern cabins are pretty fire resistant, and crews have been trained to handle such fires because even their own official equipment has caught fire. Many airliners even now carry special bags for grabbing and stashing such devices.

Dramatisation? When i'm boarding a plain and security must be called to 'convince' people that their note 7s aren't going on board with them.

You're new, so you get some slack for not knowing that the whole airliner thing was hyped up, starting with the Transportation Secretary apparently pushing the FAA to issue the ban, and his saying that it was because "even one fire" was too much... incredible hypocrisy considering how often such fires occur and are safely taken care of by airliner crew.

If he really meant that, then we wouldn't get to take ANY lithium ion battery powered games, phones, laptops, etc on board.
 
You're new, so you get some slack for not knowing that the whole airliner thing was hyped up, starting with the Transportation Secretary apparently pushing the FAA to issue the ban, and his saying that it was because "even one fire" was too much... incredible hypocrisy considering how often such fires occur and are safely taken care of by airliner crew.

If he really meant that, then we wouldn't get to take ANY lithium ion battery powered games, phones, laptops, etc on board.

Do you bite your thumb at me Sir?
 
Do you bite your thumb at me Sir?

Sorry, not familiar with that expression. But I hope not :D (?)

Edit: ah, I see. No sir, just trying to give you more info to form an opinion from.

I.e. it was definitely overdramatization. Or political grandstanding if you prefer, to make his office look more concerned about the traveling public.

Of course, IMHO such concern would be much better served by mandating more seat space, but hey...
 
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As long as you can update any phone, it can be done. Apple's done it accidentally, and if they stopped signing other versions, it'd be permanent.



Unless you had your hand on his phone, you should be okay.



Any phone with lithium ion batteries can have the battery go into thermal overrun and burst into flame ("explode"). iPhones certainly have done so, just not as often.

In fact, no Note 7 phones caught fire while an airliner was in flight, whereas an iPhone has. No one has died from a Note fire ever, whereas at least one person has from an iPhone that caught fire while the victim was sleeping.



Millions of people around the world are likely still using Apple brand adapters that can shock or catch fire. It's easy to miss a recall.

The Note problem should not be downplayed, but it needn't be overdramatized either.
My concern it's effectively a kill switch. That's not good for free speech.
 
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My concern it's effectively a kill switch. That's not good for free speech.

But a real Amerikkkan would know that the ONLY amendment worth defending is the second one... :rolleyes:

The fourth amendment will be the next one to bite the dust.
[doublepost=1481479900][/doublepost]And yet they totally bow down to big tobacco and are not banning the e-cig threat...
 
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