boss.king
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You know you still paid for that charger, right? They don't just include things in the box for free, it's built into the total cost.
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Samsung to Follow Apple and Stop Offering Power Adapters With Smartphones Next Year
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RickDEGH
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They mean reduce selling price? How is production cost of the phone related to the power adapter? Didn’t know the adapter is built into the phone.
it will allow the company to reduce smartphone production costs.
BvizioN
macrumors 603
Exactly. You and millions and millions of users. This charger/EarPods drama is the usual behaviour of people when you take away something they are use to get. The world is flooded with iPhone chargers, even grandmas and their cats have many many spares. So yeah, just another drama that makes sense a bit later to people.
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Kabeyun
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mudflap
macrumors 6502a
If this is true I doubt it's a reaction to Apple. I think people forgot that these decisions are made months and months before the trigger is pulled. Even more so with designing a new model. Don't get me wrong, initially, all Apple's competitors copied them to at least some degree, if not outright cloned the iPhone. But these days Apple is almost assuredly already working on iPhone 14. And Samsung is probably working on one or two models into the future as well.
The Game 161
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I know this will probably be an unpopular opinion, but I think this is a step in the right direction. It's going to save on tons of e-waste. Chargers don't cost that much, and most people already have two or three anyway.
Given I have something like a dozen power bricks in my house, I applaud the decision not to give me yet another one I will not use.
fokmik
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Like flash support, like floppy remove.......like headphone jack, sooner or later, everyone follows Apple
newyorksole
macrumors 603
I’m so glad that this news doesn’t bother me at all. People are really willing to part ways with Apple because they might not include a charger going forward Lol.
Well — my company is planning to offer powers adapters, but no phone.
mudflap
macrumors 6502a
Apple sold 66 million iPhones in 2019. Not sure how much the charger and headphones cost, but lets say together it's an extra $5. That's $330,000,000 dollars. That's not a small chunk of change. That's like three F-35s and a jackpot winning, leftover.
Having said that, I am very happy that they'll be producing thousands of tons less e-waste.
EDIT: I was in a rush and mistakenly only used the sales figures from ONE QUARTER. It's more around 190 million phones. So the total savings by not including those items would be guesstimated at more like 1 billion dollars. Sorry for the dumb mistake.
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Yup. I think I have somewhere around 10-12 power adapters in my house, I don’t need any more. Regardless if this rumor is accurate, it only makes sense for these manufacturers to move forward with this. Including things that potentially could help from unnecessary waste From an ‘environmental standpoint’ and cost reduction.
mi7chy
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It's disingenious to overlook the tons of useless proprietary 5W chargers that end up in landfills. If Apple had shipped universal USB-C >=15W chargers they'd be in use.
As for iPod, there's a big price difference compared to phone plus it's expected to connect the iPod to a computer to transfer music which also charges its relatively tiny battery. Same reason you don't use a lawn mower as justification for not including an alternator in a car.
Just the other day I bought a pair of pants, and they didn't come with a belt! Outrageous!
Yep. People also need to stop buying phones every year. The chips are incredibly capable these days. They should last 4-5 years easy.
nvmls
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Apple & Samsung fanbois attacking each other, while tech giants organize themselves to squeeze every penny they can.
Bluetooth headphones mostly come without power adapters, ditto for fitness trackers, some Apple Watches, GoPros and many more devices.
They should give you an option of including a charger for free, or for like five bucks. Like taking your own bag to the grocery store. If you want a charger, they should give you one. Me, I order a new phone every year and my wife every couple years, plus iPads, and we have USB charging outlets. Every time I open a junk box to clean out, I find at least one iPhone charger. So this is fine by me.
peteullo
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I'd agree with this move if the industry wasn't in the middle of converting everyone over to USB-C. I just feel like it's a few years too early. We just got our first iPhone with USB-C power adapter included last year!
I did notice the other day after going through some old junk boxes that some cheap charging cables I bought on Amazon years ago that Apple had managed to make non-functional through some software updates years ago now work with my iPhone 11 Pro. So I suddenly have a ton more charging cables.
Looks like Samsung would rather have the instant profit then using as selling point against Apple