Samsung to Respond 'Strongly' Against Apple Lawsuit

[notabadname]

Apple keeps burning bridges and eventually it's going to come back to bite them in the ass. Samsung is holding all the cards here. Apple needs Samsung but Samsung doesn't need Apple. I wouldn't be surprised if Sammy has some unexpected production issues with ipad parts here shortly.

Yeah, because Samsung doesn't have a huge interest in Apple buying it's product. If you think being dropped as a vendor for Apple's consumption of 40 + million iPad screens and iPhone screens, per year, wouldn't hurt, you're delusional.

 

[Sodner]

So what? They're already getting sued by Apple, so what's another lawsuit? Point is, contract breach or not, Samsung could cripple Apple's whole ecosystem within days by halting all processor shipments. Apple makes the vast majority on iDevices and this would kill Apple's whole economic model. And this doesn't even account for Samsungs components that go into their Macs. As a result, Apple would have no hardware to sell. They would dip into their treasure chest. It could be devastating to Apple.

You should be on Apples Board of Directors because none of them must have thought about this.

 

[lilo777]

if samsung stops providing displays to apple, it would be the best thing ever..NO MORE YELLOW TINT ISSUES!!!

Right. No screens - no tint. Great solution.

Yeah, because Samsung doesn't have a huge interest in Apple buying it's product. If you think being dropped as a vendor for Apple's consumption of 40 + million iPad screens and iPhone screens, per year, wouldn't hurt, you're delusional.

No they don't,. Apple is just 4% of their sales. Apple, on the other hand, can hardly release any hardware (with exception of battery chargers, perhaps) without Samsung components.

 

[braddouglass]

uhmm

Yep, he's the only iPhone user in the world who wants a better notication system, and a built in radio so he doesnt have to stream it over the internet.

+1 on the notifications
Who would want to have a s*itty radio tuner on their iphone? that's why I download music So I can listen to the music I want at good quality. with no commercials? And you can multi task any ways so what the big deal of streaming music? at least streaming is the genre you like haha

 

[lilo777]

+1 on the notifications
Who would want to have a s*itty radio tuner on their iphone? that's why I download music So I can listen to the music I want at good quality. with no commercials? And you can multi task any ways so what the big deal of streaming music? at least streaming is the genre you like haha

Did you know that Radio offers more than just music?

 

[notabadname]

No they don't,. Apple is just 4% of their sales. Apple, on the other hand, can hardly release any hardware (with exception of battery chargers, perhaps) without Samsung components.

ummmm, yes they do.

Apple is a major customer of Samsung’s since the Korean company supplies various parts for Apple’s devices. Now it has been reported that Apple is gearing up to spend a juicy $7.8 billion on components from Samsung, making the Cupertino-based company Samsung’s single largest customer this year.

There are plenty of other links as well supporting Apple's importance to Samsung as their largest customer.

 

[kdarling]

+1 on the notifications

Who would want to have a s*itty radio tuner on their iphone?

Err... people got confused on that part. When I said Samsung had radio controls on their pulldown notification shade, I meant direct access to turning on/off Bluetooth, 3G, WiFi, GPS ... radios like that

Plus orientation and brightness. It's really handy to have it all just one swipe away at any time.

 

[sciwizam]

Not sure if everyone's already seen it but this is a great read from Nilay Patel: http://thisismynext.com/2011/04/19/apple-sues-samsung-analysis/

From Nilay's post:

Hardware and software trade dress claims

1) a rectangular product shape with all four corners uniformly rounded;
the front surface of the product dominated by a screen surface with black borders;
2) as to the iPhone and iPod touch products, substantial black borders above and below the screen having roughly equal width and narrower black borders on either side of the screen having roughly equal width;
3) as to the iPad product, substantial black borders on all sides being roughly equal in width;
4) a metallic surround framing the perimeter of the top surface;
5) a display of a grid of colorful square icons with uniformly rounded corners; and
6) a bottom row of square icons (the “Springboard”) set off from the other icons and that do not change as the other pages of the user interface are viewed.

The first four seem flimsy in light this..

 

[ChazUK]

From Nilay's post:



The first four seem flimsy in light this..

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/392/algoq.jpg

Wow. That does look like an early Galaxy S (dark chrome bezel to boot!). Interesting find.

 

[OllyW]

Wow. That does look like an early Galaxy S (dark chrome bezel to boot!). Interesting find.

Apple copied the front facing camera 3 years later.

 

[dakwar]

lol yep. there's some evidence of it below

I should be more obvious with my sarcasms. People take written ***** too seriously.

 

[ImageWrangler]

The phone's look is indeed very similar.

Of course, Samsung's Android phone has many additional items such as their pulldown notification shade with built-in radio and orientation lock controls... which many people would love for Apple to copy.

The tablet is a different matter, and doesn't have the same look.

Wait, people actually still listen to actual radios?

But seriously yeaaaahhhh not a huge wanted feature by the general populace.

 

[kdarling]

Wait, people actually still listen to actual radios?

Please read post #162 above, for a definition of "radio controls" that is different from what you thought.

 

[aohus]

Wait, people actually still listen to actual radios?

But seriously yeaaaahhhh not a huge wanted feature by the general populace.

um, radio controls, a la Bluetooth, WiFi, 3G, WiFi HotSpot enable/disable feature.

like this

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

um, radio controls, a la Bluetooth, WiFi, 3G, WiFi HotSpot enable/disable feature.

like this
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_...AAAAAAag/_RWELWS7MxE/s512/CAP201012191848.png

I love having the 4G and Flashlight in my Power Control menu.

 

[lilo777]

ummmm, yes they do.



There are plenty of other links as well supporting Apple's importance to Samsung as their largest customer.

No they don't. These 8 billion dollars is just a drop in a bucket for Samsung. Their annual revenue is well above $100 billion. As I said, Apple represents just 4% of Samsung sales.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

No they don't. These 8 billion dollars is just a drop in a bucket for Samsung. Their annual revenue is well above $100 billion. As I said, Apple represents just 4% of Samsung sales.

Yeah but Apple has XXX Billions in "Cash" and a higher Market Cap! They should buy Samsung!!!!

 

[CDCC]

Google probably have a kickass patent portfolio so they'll just countersue.

Google mostly makes Software. Apple has WAY more device and design patents.

 

[sniffies]

How sleazy of you, Apple.

Almost like stabbing in the back.

Not nice, Apple, not nice.

 

[CDCC]

They have plenty of patents. It wasn't until the 90s that the patent madness really started with software. Google is also leading the bidding for a large portfolio of mobile patents to protect them against Apple and Microsoft.

Google has more copyrights than patents. However, they are still to cheap to buy most copyrights if they can get away with it. They are illegally scanning all books and photos to feed their hungry "big brother" search engines.
http://gizmodo.com/#!5070029/google-pays-125-million-to-writers-and-buys-us-some-free-books

Just another reason not to trust them.

 

[alphaod]

I'm pretty sure there will countless companies willing to take on Apple as a new customer.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I'm pretty sure there will countless companies willing to take on Apple as a new customer.

just because countless are willing does not mean they have the ablity to produce the output demands at the quality Apple wants.

Also when a company gets the reputations of distrust with its partners prices are generally raised and they are less willing to work with them. It is a bad idea to chew up and spit out companies. Remember everyone talks. I have seen enough of the deals that go on that one one really knows about.

 

[koruki]

So what? They're already getting sued by Apple, so what's another lawsuit? Point is, contract breach or not, Samsung could cripple Apple's whole ecosystem within days by halting all processor shipments. Apple makes the vast majority on iDevices and this would kill Apple's whole economic model. And this doesn't even account for Samsungs components that go into their Macs. As a result, Apple would have no hardware to sell. They would dip into their treasure chest. It could be devastating to Apple.

Yeah cause a contract breach takes just as long to prove a IP suite. They'd get slapped so fast they wont know what hit them, not to mention other companies would see it as samsung being cowboys for mixing their two business up.

 

[lilo777]

Yeah cause a contract breach takes just as long to prove a IP suite. They'd get slapped so fast they wont know what hit them, not to mention other companies would see it as samsung being cowboys for mixing their two business up.

I doubt those contracts last longer than one year and this is how long it will probably take for this lawsuit to get to court hearing. Samsung will be in a great bargaining position then.

 

[notabadname]

No they don't. These 8 billion dollars is just a drop in a bucket for Samsung. Their annual revenue is well above $100 billion. As I said, Apple represents just 4% of Samsung sales.

And as I said, they are their number one customer, also as reported in the WSJ. If you don't think some bonuses were rewarded at Samsung for landing the account with Apple, and that your number one customer isn't important, then you know very little about business.