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Wait...let me get this straight....Do people still BUY Samsung smartphones? Their flagship model caught fire and EXPLODED...SPONTANEOUSLY! Then, after the explanation and recall, the replacement phones had the same problem!! They could have the coolest phones on the market, but you couldn't pay me enough money to bring one of their products into my house and actually plug it into an outlet. Well, I suppose if I were planning to burn my house down and collect the insurance money...yeah, then maybe I'd consider it. Otherwise, I think I'd have to have my head examined before trusting a Samsung smartphone. My 2-year-old Samsung washer and dryer give me all kinds of problems as it is. I think I'm done with that company going forward.


Ummm... Samsung sell far more smartphones than Apple, make half the critical components in various Apple products... and most importantly, share the same overflow battery manufacturing network as Apple...
 
The Samsung bashing has began. And... That's just sad because facts are Apple have had MacBooks iPhones, adaptors, etc catch on fire, and so have other manufacturers.

You can't be serious.

If any Apple iPhone model was bursting into flames, even if it was only a dozen units, the entire planet would slingshot itself into a cataclysmic end. People went batsh*t crazy and lost their minds with antenna-gate and bend-gate.

Apple wouldn't make it out of the national headlines for years.
 
Using google: .....iphone 7 catching fire....

https://www.google.nl/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=iphone 7 catching fire
Results are thousands issues

When you search for issues with google you will find them for every device !!!


The defect causing the explosions and fires with the Samsung were traced to, and admitted by Samsung, to a defect in the design and manufacturing of the Samsung phones. You can post your fake news stories from Google, where no one knows what kind of scam or defective charger, etc., has been at fault, but your attempt to deceive is pathetic. You know, and everyone else knows, that there has never been any link to a defect in the iPhone 7 design or manufacturing process that has caused a fire. Were that to be the case, there would have been a recall of the now 75 to 80 million iPhone 7's that have likely been sold thus far. Troll failure.
 
Ummm... Samsung sell far more smartphones than Apple, make half the critical components in various Apple products... and most importantly, share the same overflow battery manufacturing network as Apple...

Ummm....but I just brought and used my iPhone (successfully, I might add) on a Delta flight yesterday afternoon, but the flight attendant warned that all Samsung Galaxy Note 7s have been banned from all US flights. Of course I know that Samsung sells "far more smartphones...blah blah blah." My point was that SINCE this fiasco with their Galaxy Note 7, I'm surprised that people still buy them NOW, or plan to buy them in the future. I don't love the thought of phones going up in flames when I charge them (or use them). But more importantly, I don't love COMPANIES which try to correct problems like this by issuing replacement phones which have the same problem. Words like "DISHONEST" and "CRIMINAL" come to mind.

But thanks for the info about their sales data and how Samsung supplies components to Apple. However, given that information, I still wouldn't buy one of Samsung's phones. If I'm stuck using components from them in my iPhone (for now), then I guess I don't have a choice (since that's Apple's call). But at least the company that designs phones using their components do a better job protecting their customers from spontaneous combustion....
 
Only took them four months.

And? Do you have any idea how long of an investigation this would take to conduct and determine exactly what happened? Considering all the devices being accounted for, testing and re-evaluating the process of why the devices failed, not once, but twice, all over the world for a recall. Not to mention the investigation with the FAA being involved and any pending other suits.

I would say an investigation of this magnitude could easily take six months if need be. Time constraints isn't essence as much as being fastidious is critical.
 
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Ummm... Samsung sell far more smartphones than Apple, make half the critical components in various Apple products... and most importantly, share the same overflow battery manufacturing network as Apple...
Sure, but most of those phones are nowhere near flagship prices and some are even given away, and Samsung makes some of the components for Apple products. Can you provide a source for "half"?
 
Best in what regard? I find Android to be a clunky, awkward mess, and how well does it manage data as you move from device-to-device-to-device, both during use and during an upgrade?

To me, information like my email, contacts and passwords are absolutely important to me, and I've successfully setup and upgraded several computers and iPhones over the past 12 years, and all of my data just seamlessly shows up on all devices, and they stay in sync. Minimal configuration. To me, that's a peace of mind that you just can't buy, and one that I'm not willing to sacrifice for anything. Does this same effortless experience exist on Android? And can you trust that the apps you're using have been vetted for hacks and exploits? To me, living in the Android world would just be far too risky and "messy". But that's my bias.

When I got the note 7, I was upgrading from a note 3. In the note 7 box was a USB cable that let me connect the two phones directly together without a PC. All I had to do was follow the on-screen instructions and everything was transferred over. No need to use any cloud apps.
 
Samsung can easily redeem itself, as long as they can make jaws drop just as how Microsoft did with their Surface Studio.

Though I have yet to see any OEM get out of their comfort zone and try new things. What I like to see is a repeat of the original iPhone announcement. It changed the industry.
 
The Samsung bashing has began. And... That's just sad because facts are Apple have had MacBooks iPhones, adaptors, etc catch on fire, and so have other manufacturers. It's an industry problem based on poor quality standards and poor designs. Governments around the world should be imposing insanely great fines on companies that release devices that turn into smoke. It's not acceptable. Not in 2017.

Not really an even argument there. There's factors that must be considered. Nothing really compares to the Note7 battery problem.

Many stories about iPhones exploding that blame Apple quality control leave out the fact that a third-party charger was being used at the time, and that's not a fault of the iPhone design. The Note7 battery problems *were* a Samsung design fault, as we'll all see confirmation of soon.
 
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The Note 7 was the the most exciting phone of 2016 for me. The features and design was on point and it really made the iPhone 6 and even the 7 look like dated junk. I wish the would release the Note 8 cause it there are some rumors saying the next iphone could still use the same design and the 7.
 
It's so easy..

Some like Android and some like IOS..
Accept it.
The S7 and S7E is a good phone and tested very good by several reviewers.
No issues at all with my S7E

Your friend is not the world
My friend is a diehard Android person. I'm just sharing his experience. I would say he is a fairly heavy user and he was not that happy with the experience of his Samsung phones. He now has a Pixel XL. Anecdote over.

Edit: others in his family that are average users are ok with their S7's for what it's worth.
 
Putting aside the explosive battery, it was hands down the best phone of 2016.

You know they made a beast of a phone when people were still using their note 7 despite the risk of explosion. They had to send an update out just so people could be stopped from using them.

Hopefully Samsung is able to redeem themselves.
 
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Wait...let me get this straight....Do people still BUY Samsung smartphones? Their flagship model caught fire and EXPLODED...SPONTANEOUSLY! Then, after the explanation and recall, the replacement phones had the same problem!! They could have the coolest phones on the market, but you couldn't pay me enough money to bring one of their products into my house and actually plug it into an outlet. Well, I suppose if I were planning to burn my house down and collect the insurance money...yeah, then maybe I'd consider it. Otherwise, I think I'd have to have my head examined before trusting a Samsung smartphone. My 2-year-old Samsung washer and dryer give me all kinds of problems as it is. I think I'm done with that company going forward.

Multiple Boeing 737's fell out of the sky spontaneously, killing everyone on board each time. There were explanations yet the problem kept happening. It took several years before the real issue with the rudder was identified and resolved. Yet I'm guessing you still fly in Boeing planes. And people will still buy Samsung phones.
 
My friend is a diehard Android person. I'm just sharing his experience. I would say he is a fairly heavy user and he was not that happy with the experience of his Samsung phones. He now has a Pixel XL. Anecdote over.

Sure..
But there are also many users who prefer the S7E over the pixel.
Like I said some prefer brand A and others prefer brand B..

Anecdote over ;)
 
Using google: .....iphone 7 catching fire....

https://www.google.nl/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=iphone 7 catching fire
Results are thousands issues

When you search for issues with google you will find them for every device !!!

Did you read the article that you linked to?

Mat Jones left his phone under a bunch of clothes in his car while he went to take a surfing lesson. When he returned, he found his car filled with smoke, 7 News reports. The heated phone ignited and smoked the interior to a crisp.
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The iPhone 7 was sitting under clothes, and in a car parked at the beach, it is totally possible that the heat building up in the car began to warm the phone up, speeding up the ignition process, and with plenty of fuel to burn, the poor surfer’s clothes.

Most of those articles on page 1 are all about the same incident, and many leave out the important details that user error led to the phone overheating.

Nice try, though.
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When I got the note 7, I was upgrading from a note 3. In the note 7 box was a USB cable that let me connect the two phones directly together without a PC. All I had to do was follow the on-screen instructions and everything was transferred over. No need to use any cloud apps.

Okay, that's good to know, for sure. How about accessing and updating that same information from multiple devices? But we are getting off-topic... let's talk about exploding phones instead. :)
 
Putting aside the explosive battery, it was hands down the best phone of 2016.

You know they made a beast of a phone when people were still using their note 7 despite the risk of explosion. They had to send an update out just so people could be stopped from using them.

Hopefully Samsung is able to redeem themselves.

"Beast of a phone" is a perfect way to describe it! Like it's the most powerful phone out there, but also pretty dangerous.

"The bengal tiger is a BEAST of a cat!" Fun to see at the zoo, especially when it pounces on a big juicy steak. But not so much fun to have as a house cat. "Here, kitty kitty!!" Similarly, the Galaxy Note 7 would be a cool phone to watch someone else play with, or perhaps to see featured in a promotional video. But I wouldn't want it plugged in on MY nightstand next to my bed! Yep. It's a beast of a phone!
 
Ummm....but I just brought and used my iPhone (successfully, I might add) on a Delta flight yesterday afternoon, but the flight attendant warned that all Samsung Galaxy Note 7s have been banned from all US flights. Of course I know that Samsung sells "far more smartphones...blah blah blah." My point was that SINCE this fiasco with their Galaxy Note 7, I'm surprised that people still buy them NOW, or plan to buy them in the future. I don't love the thought of phones going up in flames when I charge them (or use them). But more importantly, I don't love COMPANIES which try to correct problems like this by issuing replacement phones which have the same problem. Words like "DISHONEST" and "CRIMINAL" come to mind.

But thanks for the info about their sales data and how Samsung supplies components to Apple. However, given that information, I still wouldn't buy one of Samsung's phones. If I'm stuck using components from them in my iPhone (for now), then I guess I don't have a choice (since that's Apple's call). But at least the company that designs phones using their components do a better job protecting their customers from spontaneous combustion....



The more important part of what I said is Apple and Samsung share the same battery overflow manufacturing pipeline and battery design language.

There's every chance that what occurred is due to the limits of lithium ion technology at the capacities used in 2017 in compact portable devices. You can bet Apple is just as interested in the findings as Samsung (ie it's absurd to try to make this company vs company... there but for the grace of God go Apple).

Do you think the last minute battery downgrade on the new MBP likely using similar compression was just an eerie coincidence?
 
If it was an obvious mistake, then it'd be easy to figure out after reports came in.

Like making an external antenna which can be detuned with the smallest touch of a pinky finger. Or designing a case opening brace which was too short and thus acted like a fulcrum for bends instead. Or putting out a Maps app that was missing tons of basic info. Those all were instantly clear to almost anyone.

But since it took so long in this case, perhaps it was something subtle and/or requiring a certain sequence of events.

Heck, it only happened to about one in forty thousand units. So unless you had a good idea what the cause was, imagine how many units you'd have to test to make the result repeatable.



iPhones have done the same. They've caught fire on airplanes in flight, something that never happened with the Samsung model in question. (Because it was banned. Should iPhones also be banned then?)

People have been badly burned by iPhones. Someone has even died from an iPhone fire in his bed, which again never happened with a Samsung Note.

Does that make you never want to buy an iPhone again? Of course not. If it didn't happen to them, people don't care that much. Especially when the device hits all their desire points, like the Note does and the iPhone does.

Only on MacRumors can an article about Samsung phones exploding due to a manufacturing defect be spun into an anti-Apple comment. It boggles the mind, it really does.
 
"Hello, we would like to report on our Samsung galoxy note 7. It blew up twice, due to rushed battery production. We blame Apple. We will not be taking questions. Thank you."
 
You can't be serious.

If any Apple iPhone model was bursting into flames, even if it was only a dozen units, the entire planet would slingshot itself into a cataclysmic end. People went batsh*t crazy and lost their minds with antenna-gate and bend-gate.

Apple wouldn't make it out of the national headlines for years.

They've moved on to Scratchgate on the new Macs. Always something to talk about. Right?
 
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Wrong. Third-party, non OEM chargers are what have caught fire and shorted phones, caused burns, etc.
It is amazing how well Apple PR convinced people that it is somebody else's fault....
Comes to mind the "You are holding it wrong" meme.

Yep NEVER hear Apple taking responsibility for their faults, and you could list at least a dozen cases (from different Apple "cycle") where Apple was of course at fault, but never admitted and blamed either the user or 3rd party.

LIVE ON MY DEAR REALITY DISTORTION FIELD!!
 
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The amount of pro Samsung post and upvote on a "Mac" site is just amazing. This thread just goes to show where all the toxic posts of this site is originated. It also show how insecure Samsung's internet warriors are. Wasting all their holiday times hating and flaming on brand that has nothing to do with their live.
 
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