thanks for the info. Since I am by far no expert in economics (heck, I practically even make laymen look like experts), that's why I asked.
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thanks for the info. Since I am by far no expert in economics (heck, I practically even make laymen look like experts), that's why I asked.
So Samsung doesn't believe that Apple is already paying, they say they aren't paying
Probably not by Apple. Afair the whole Apple/Nokia dispute revolved around Nokia looking for a percentage of the retail cost. Obviously since Apple only deal with high end phones this ends up costing them more per unit than it would someone who sells cheap phones. Is that reasonable?
You know what; I'm sick of this argument. I wish Samsung and Apple would both feck off. They could license eachothers IP to eachother for reasonable terms and it would just cancel out and the only people who'd get rich would be the lawyers, hence proving the worthlessness of patent litigation.
...And I wonder if this comment by Phil Schiller yesterday: "Despite competitors trying really hard to copy the iPhone 4, they haven't really been able to come close." will come up in the case now...
...And I wonder if this comment by Phil Schiller yesterday: "Despite competitors trying really hard to copy the iPhone 4, they haven't really been able to come close." will come up in the case now...
Apple's products are expensive because they are top quality. The cheap garbage products cost less than Apple products yet everyone still buys iPhones, iPads, MBA's etc. People are tired of junk and would rather pay more for quality.
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What I find really funny about people's arguments against these things is its always just ONE detail. Like, "oh, PDMI is standard" or "oh, people have made boxes like that before." I guarantee if the only thing the same about some Samsung product and an iPhone was just the connector, or just the box, etc. that there would likely be no lawsuit. The reason that there IS a lawsuit is that the list of things that are similar/the same is too long and beyond mere coincidence or general business decision, and arguably a violation of trade dress. Of course, nobody in favor of Samsung will acknowledge that either.
You couldn't copy the look of a PS3 for example, just by making it a general rectangular shape and black. But you could by additionally copying the front chrome trim (on an original unit), the port layout, the domed top, the general layout of the interface, etc.
JAT said:They have a legal department. Not that much outsourcing. Maybe in other countries, though.
PDMI itself is a blatant copy of Apple's connector. Silly argument, this should be annoying to anyone that wants to easily identify cables and connectors in their house. I have to closely look to figure out if our cables are for a Sansa or iPod, for instance.Jesus, not this crap again.PDMI, different things called the same, etc... etc..
The one thing people complain about regarding Apple's wires is the proprietary connector. (when they should be complaining about flimsiness) "Why can't they use USB standard", etc. Yet Samsung copied the mess, too. They really should pay better attention.
And much smaller. Which we like.
Isn't this press release now copying Apple's words from their court filings, too? I suppose they are going for irony. Kinda funny.
What I find really funny about people's arguments against these things is its always just ONE detail. Like, "oh, PDMI is standard" or "oh, people have made boxes like that before." I guarantee if the only thing the same about some Samsung product and an iPhone was just the connector, or just the box, etc. that there would likely be no lawsuit. The reason that there IS a lawsuit is that the list of things that are similar/the same is too long and beyond mere coincidence or general business decision, and arguably a violation of trade dress. Of course, nobody in favor of Samsung will acknowledge that either.
You couldn't copy the look of a PS3 for example, just by making it a general rectangular shape and black. But you could by additionally copying the front chrome trim (on an original unit), the port layout, the domed top, the general layout of the interface, etc.
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I know a lot of people who have iPhones, iPads, etc, and none of them know about the Samsung lawsuits and don't really care. It's mainly on these forums and thats a very small number compared to the market. So, no matter who wins or what the settlements are, it will not hurt either companies (maybe embarrass), unless the product is banned. Gee, if apple's upper management put their monies with the company money, they could buy Samsung and sell all kinds of phones with different names
Doesn't seem like they need Apple to me :
Some of you guys need to look beyond the Apple bubble.
Why is a curved phone better?? I'd have to see one first hand to know if it is really better. The only possible benefit would be that it hugs you face? (but then you are more exposed to its radio waves?).
why? as a european should i give a toss what two multi national companies do in a court room. if im after a tech product im after the one that serves my needs and budget best couldnt give a toss about some petty childish squabbles that go on everyday in every business area
Q2 2011
Samsung:
Revenue: $33.21 billion
Net income: $2.96 billion
Samsung stop reporting tablet & smartphone sales figures.
Apple:
Revenue: $24.67 billion
Net income: $5.99 billion
Apple quite happy to share unit SALES.
Apple has less revenue but double the income. Who would you rather be.
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Reunification will occur. In fact, I for one am looking forward to Samsung bearing the financial burdens of it.
Mr. Gates said:If Samsung held policies like Apple, they would be North Korea
Not south
Reunification will occur. In fact, I for one am looking forward to Samsung bearing the financial burdens of it.
Ah, the legal and business expert has spoken I see.
Well, I guess since Apple is becoming unpopular with alot of people because of their litigation bs similar things will happen with Samsung
That connector is not Samsungs design, it's a standardized connector. Furthermore, it's black and has a raised part to allow better grip.
Apple didn't invent the white box with a product image on. The idea of making a box as small as possible did not come from some grand vision of Jobs. Furthermore, it's more space between the product image and the edges of the box on the Tab box.
Remember, Apple is the one who usually claims these trivial details are important, so naturally, the trivial differences should also be important.
I suppose you're not referring to this particular case, since Apple has admitted that these are legitimate patents
Yeah, Samsung will go bancrupt without Apple
Keep dreaming.Hey, I guess that proves that Apple just looked at Android and ripped it straight off since they wouldn't have had that issue anyway.
GOOD!!! IPHONE4s need to be banned everywhere cause its crap..
Why? What makes it crap? If its because its externally the same, Apple never promised a new design. Its the media and rumors that promised that, not Apple.
How arrogant, do you realise how big Samsung are? Besides as all the analysis concurred in the todays Guardian article, they now have the better phone too
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It's not crap! it's just 4 months behind on the day it came out
How does "their loss" imply bankruptcy?
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Samsung is charging that only Samsung can copy apple and that apple is not allowed to copy apple as that is Samsungs domain
Samsung is charging that only Samsung can copy apple and that apple is not allowed to copy apple as that is Samsungs domain
Oh, I'm sorry, when was the last time apple made a different type of screen that could do this? Oh, right.....