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Samsung to Try to Beat Apple to Market with a "Retina" Display Tablet?
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I thought that LG, not Samsung, supplies Apple with iPad displays.
About the only parts that Apple buys from Samsung for iPhones and iPads is the Flash memory and the making of the CPU. Neither of those items comes even close to giving away what a device looks like.
Unlikely that Samsung knew. And sure. Why not. It's progress.
There were also "retina" resolution screens on phones years before the iPhone got one.
By the common logic in this thread, it is Apple who is bringing in specs to the experience war -- Samsung is merely reacting to it. How come when Apple increases PPI - its magical, and when Samsung does the same - its useless and "the wrong thing to do". This, i'll never get.
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The alphabet dictates that the next version will start with J. So... Jellybean, perhaps.
I am just unhappy how 16:9 destroyed nearly all progress with higher resolution displays on notebooks. 1080p suddenly becomes the standard from 1920 x 1200 and 1366 x 768 is everywhere. I just want a notebook with a 1600 x 900 panel and a decent midrange GPU! Ugh...
Otherwise I end up melting my lap or killing my eyes. Would it kill someone to use a eIPS or PLS panel too? HP has IPS on the ENVY now, yikes!
Ill start in reverse - no, i certainly dont consider myself representative of "MR in general". Thank god for that. However, that is the response others would throw at you, if Apple were to do the same thing. They would say: "even if ppi is lower, its still retina - you'll watch the screen from further away".
Second, while the article mentions Samsung showcasing a 2560 pentile display, it does not state that the rumored tablet would boast one. But sure, make it your and MR's speculation. In the end, that is all it is.
Last, i won't call it jack. Nor do i care much for marketing hype. I understand why Apple is opting for that route though. I would too.
HP or Lenovo offering IPS-equipped panels on laptops are crap, but Macbooks with "high grade TN ones" are the best!
To me, the real joke is that people buy in to rumors this much. Samsung would've done this regardless. Regardless of what Apple, its a great marketing point, and something that could help steer sales towards their product (if, or rather when, Apple does the same - not so much). To me, there is no reason to see this as reactive (to a rumor). If all they wanted to do were to "be like Apple", it would make more sense to wait -- and let unit costs come down.
I was impressed just to see what improvements Asus made to the display on the Transformer Prime coming from the original Transformer.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/4
I love more pixels and all too...
The argument is not so much that Apple copied the crunchpad. Rather, its about showing that others came up to the same design, without Apples guidance.
High grade and TN is a bit of an oxymoron, id say.
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IPS is great. Good to see Asus is realizing that too. Now if we could just solve the reflection (a problem to which we're seeing clear progress - no pun intended), and i'll be more than happy :- )
I think it is funny that you some how think that. Providing you design it right it is a none issue.
Depends. If you some how think the graphic in files in iOS are some how optimized for the screen res that is runny. Most of the time any graphics start out as much higher res files when they create them because that is easier to do. Then when they prep it for the app they just have it scale down the file to a smaller format to save space so it is STILL scaled graphic.
Any how thing that uses vector graphic it is a non issue as those do not relay on resolution of the screen to be "perfect" they are always "perfect" as everything is just a mathematical formulas.
Also give you a hint most of the popular games in iOS like angry birds, tiny wings and so on are all vector graphics so a non issue at all messing with different resolutions.
I've reading about this story about Samsung and their new display on other sites, and Apple is not mentioned anywhere, and the apple fanboys are not screaming about copying, so I have to fault macrumors for the title, "Samsung tries to beat apple..." as if that's a fact. So many stories on macrumors that have nothing to do with Apple, yet for the sake of having people screaming and yelling, it's made seem as if the other company is doing it because of Apple. The reporting is just so misleading here.
Also add the fact that the Nexus Prime uses a PenTile screen with all its problems; this is why its text rendering isn't nearly as good as those of IPS screens.
Hehe.. Apple doesn't do most of the engineering work on their displays, and they don't hold any real exclusivity on any panels ordered. These are all made from commoditized parts. I can't believe how many people don't understand this. Before anyone begins to acquire lots of display panels in this kind of resolution, the parts can be quite cost prohibitive for manufacturers with lower shipping volumes per device.
You're still pretty far off on this one. Samsung supplies a lot of parts to Apple. It shouldn't be shocking that they use some of the same parts in their own devices. Some of you think reverse engineering happens in a very short time frame.
Display panels are different from displays. Many manufacturers use the same panels which is what determines resolution. It's not copying. It's just cost prohibitive to order custom parts. Five to ten years ago top quality lcd displays (thinking desktop displays here) were often made with custom parts, but none of these devices sell for enough to permit this anymore.
TN has a horrible reputation, but they've probably improved it more than the other technologies in the past several years. It still has a negative stigma to it, but as far as laptop displays go, the Apple ones don't look that bad these days. The white macbook was one that really deserved a better display. Most of the current machines are fine. Just putting in an ips panel doesn't automatically make it great. There is way more to it. It's like how people lust over OLED. They get too caught up in the technology rather than the product.
What catches my eye is the 11" screen.
Give it three years and everybody will say "The ipad 5 screen is too small because Samsung Android tablets have 13" screens".
Typical Samsung thinking more mega pixels, larger screen is better the same paranoia that think a massive 3.5" screen is "small"? on a phone? hello it's a mobile phone the Iphone 4/4S is quite big compared to phones in previous years.
If Samsung had there way they would make everything bigger each year and we would all be walking around with Billboard tablets and 1980's style phones but all touch screen!
Give it three years and everybody will say "The ipad 5 screen is too small because Samsung Android tablets have 13" screens".
Typical Samsung thinking more mega pixels, larger screen is better the same paranoia that think a massive 3.5" screen is "small"? on a phone? hello it's a mobile phone the Iphone 4/4S is quite big compared to phones in previous years.
If Samsung had there way they would make everything bigger each year and we would all be walking around with Billboard tablets and 1980's style phones but all touch screen!
I must admit that Apple does use some of the best that TN can offer. Many people mistake that Apple is using IPS panels on their notebooks though.
I remember going from my iMac's PVA display to my Macbook's worst TN on earth... The current notebooks are much improved but it was terrible in late 2007.
I was glad that I remembered where I saw this.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/31/invisible-glass-could-reduce-display-glare-fails-as-food-in-t/
Huh?
Samsung makes a 7" tablet, which is aimed at those who like to hold their device with one hand.
The 11"+ screen is perfect for those who have been waiting for a device which can display full-size PDFs and can serve to read full size magazines, such as those available on Zinio, or directly from publishers.
The 10" or 9.7" screens are neither small enough to be truly portable, nor large enough to be useful for 8.5"x11" media, which is the vast majority of PDFs and publications out there. 10" screens are cheaper, and that's about it.
I wish Apple had done this, but it is Samsung, so Samsung will get my $$$.
Cheers.
Even HTC had a 2.8"? 3.2"? Windows Mobile phone with VGA (or WVGA?) screen back in 2008.
PDA's even starting with Sept 2003: the Toshiba e800/805.
Alan Kay to Steve Jobs: "Make the screen five inches by eight inches, and you'll rule the world."
http://gizmodo.com/5477094/legendary-designer-says-the-ipad-will-rule-the-world
http://gizmodo.com/5477094/legendary-designer-says-the-ipad-will-rule-the-world
Newspapers shouldn't come as PDFs but in an app with additional multimedia features like the TIME Magazine, so there's no real need for a bigger screen.
There are several apps that hit 1GB, not to mention high definition videos they're marked at around 1GB, some cases more.
I would agree for what the iPad can do, 64GB simply undercuts it. I actually would be surprised if there isn't a capacity update this year, perhaps that is why the iPod touch never got the 128GB this year they're saving the supplies for the new iPad.
Capacity and price are the two factors that have kept me from jumping ship and I'm usually not that picky about prices. After all I paid $400 for the 64GB iPod Touch, but $849 for 64GB isn't worth it.
If these were put into generic units for comparison, and you were trying to judge which was destined for the ipad, you would not be able to tell by pixel density.