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Perhaps they will stop using Intel, Nvidea and AMD chips in their desktops soon then with all these world leading chips designers at Apple.

I can't wait to see them running on their own hardware in the next few years.

1, they are running much of their own hardware today.

2, what companies do you think Apple has been raiding for their top talent?
 
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple just bought Samsung's manufacturing division and ran it themselves.

Yeah accept you missed that Samsung could buy 2 Apples tomorrow and still be Samsung, Apple could purchase 1/3 of Samsung and have to sell 100% of Apple, sadly Apple is not as big as you'd like to fantasize about.
 
Perhaps they will stop using Intel, Nvidea and AMD chips in their desktops soon then with all these world leading chips designers at Apple.

I can't wait to see them running on their own hardware in the next few years.

Then you would not have any software, Macintosh are a tiny blip in computer market share. If they switched from Intel architecture they would loose most of it's software support.

Also the same applies to iOS, developers want to launch products across all platforms to maximise profits, if they can gain more from one market then another then it makes business sense to choose that market. Plus their is nothing wrong with the way it is set up at present, and Apple doesn't make any hardware at all. It's partners do.

Samsung is being very clever, it is protecting one part of the business from the other. But it won't affect them overall as Apple and Samsung use the components manufacturing in Samsung.
 
Yeah accept you missed that Samsung could buy 2 Apples tomorrow and still be Samsung, Apple could purchase 1/3 of Samsung and have to sell 100% of Apple, sadly Apple is not as big as you'd like to fantasize about.

Business isn't just about what you own and what you could buy. If that were the case then the latest Fortune 100 number one would just buy out everyone else. And Apple would have spent their loose change of several billion dollars to buy out AT&T. It's about focus, intent and the ability to deliver. Without that, any business would be driven into the dirt.
 
Yeah accept you missed that Samsung could buy 2 Apples tomorrow and still be Samsung, Apple could purchase 1/3 of Samsung and have to sell 100% of Apple, sadly Apple is not as big as you'd like to fantasize about.

I don't accept that I miss the point. I think you meant "except", but that's another matter entirely.

Fantasize? Hardly. Companies sometimes sell off their components if a decent offer comes around. Not saying it's realistic, but a possibility. Why is it when I make a simple comment people take it to the ends of the earth and then get all high and mighty about it? Jesus.
 
Geez, you are the ultimate lurker. You lied in wait 10 years to make 2 posts about apple design history similarity with braun design history.

The truth can be painful, you can clearly see Apple 2003-2010 designs are blatant Braun ripoffs from 40 yrs back, not much innovation on Apples part, kind of like the similarities in the phones. Yet I dont see you crying for Braun about how they need to sue Apple for billions in blatant copies.
 
The truth can be painful, you can clearly see Apple 2003-2010 designs are blatant Braun ripoffs from 40 yrs back, not much innovation on Apples part, kind of like the similarities in the phones. Yet I dont see you crying for Braun about how they need to sue Apple for billions in blatant copies.

Situations are totally different. Not the same market, no harm to sales, etc. even when the inspiration is clear.
 
I can't picture you having a concussion. You are reading too well. Reading has a tendency to cause a reduction in comprehension of your concussion. This is largely due to ducks and mustard. If you truly had a concussion, you would Samsung not elevator.

No Lord Vic, I do not think you have suffered a banana.

I've had about 8 or 9 diagnosed concussions.

It is amazing how well you learn to adapt. I know what you mean. I used to work in payroll when I had a massive one. I'm terrified now to think of just how many pay's i screwed up for about 5 months.
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ontopic: the Braun thing just further emphasizes the point that Apple themselves have stood on the shoulders of others to get where they are.
Should there be outright theft? no. But it's all evolution. you can't evolve with what came before you. Apple is no different. The iphone, and the rest of Apples products weren't created in a vacume.

wait
banana? ducks and mustard? Elavotor? did you edit your post lol.
 
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The truth can be painful, you can clearly see Apple 2003-2010 designs are blatant Braun ripoffs from 40 yrs back, not much innovation on Apples part, kind of like the similarities in the phones. Yet I dont see you crying for Braun about how they need to sue Apple for billions in blatant copies.

You're not listening are you? Apple have not ripped anything off of Braun. Dieter Rams was a great and influential designer who proposed design principles. Using design principles is an acceptable practice in law. Copying specific applications of design principles is not.
 
How can Samsung CEO involved in failed settlement talks maintain a firewall between the such a landmark legal battle and one of Samsung's largest component customers. He must keep up to date on such developments.

It's like pledging not to view the back of your own hand.
 
Yeah accept you missed that Samsung could buy 2 Apples tomorrow and still be Samsung, Apple could purchase 1/3 of Samsung and have to sell 100% of Apple, sadly Apple is not as big as you'd like to fantasize about.

Spot on. Everyone thinks Apple is worth all this money when it isn't.

Yes it's great for share holders that their bits of paper are worth so much. But it is a bubble that is unsustainable over a long time.

Revenue and assets do not even come close to the supposed market value. It will come down with a ruddy big bump.
 
Spot on. Everyone thinks Apple is worth all this money when it isn't.

Yes it's great for share holders that their bits of paper are worth so much. But it is a bubble that is unsustainable over a long time.

Revenue and assets do not even come close to the supposed market value. It will come down with a ruddy big bump.

Sometimes I really wish we still had the ability to down-vote posts.
 
I don't accept that I miss the point. I think you meant "except", but that's another matter entirely.

Fantasize? Hardly. Companies sometimes sell off their components if a decent offer comes around. Not saying it's realistic, but a possibility. Why is it when I make a simple comment people take it to the ends of the earth and then get all high and mighty about it? Jesus.

Again you miss that Samsung is roughly 3 times the size of Apple, Samsung Electronics are the same size as Apple, if Samsung sells like 5 ships in their shipyard they could buy Apple. The reality is they are small in comparison to Samsung.
 
If you look at the P/E ratio of AAPL, it is 15. That puts the stock a bit undervalued, but not by a lot. If you look at the PEG, of 0.68, Apple is selling for a bit over half of what it should. $1,000 per share is fair market value.

Spot on. Everyone thinks Apple is worth all this money when it isn't.

Yes it's great for share holders that their bits of paper are worth so much. But it is a bubble that is unsustainable over a long time.

Revenue and assets do not even come close to the supposed market value. It will come down with a ruddy big bump.
 
The truth can be painful, you can clearly see Apple 2003-2010 designs are blatant Braun ripoffs from 40 yrs back, not much innovation on Apples part, kind of like the similarities in the phones. Yet I dont see you crying for Braun about how they need to sue Apple for billions in blatant copies.

Diter Rams was an inspiration to Steve Jobs and Jonathan Ive, yes. Apple products blatant rip offs of Braun products? Hardly. Yep I'm certainly going to confuse an iPod with a Braun thermostat. :rolleyes:
 
You're not listening are you? Apple have not ripped anything off of Braun. Dieter Rams was a great and influential designer who proposed design principles. Using design principles is an acceptable practice in law. Copying specific applications of design principles is not.

And you were tragically born blind? Using principles sadly does not justify blatantly copying designs, which all of those are, as much as the phones are.
 
Again you miss that Samsung is roughly 3 times the size of Apple, Samsung Electronics are the same size as Apple, if Samsung sells like 5 ships in their shipyard they could buy Apple. The reality is they are small in comparison to Samsung.
What's your source for this?

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And you were tragically born blind? Using principles sadly does not justify blatantly copying designs, which all of those are, as much as the phones are.
Blatant copying is your opinion.

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It's Dieter Rams
Here is an cool video on him and his history:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6-wA-7QIeE&feature=related

Oops I misspelled his first name. But I do know who he is. :)
 
Again you miss that Samsung is roughly 3 times the size of Apple, Samsung Electronics are the same size as Apple, if Samsung sells like 5 ships in their shipyard they could buy Apple. The reality is they are small in comparison to Samsung.

You got it chief. You and your unsourced statements win over my opinionated comments.
 
Diter Rams was an inspiration to Steve Jobs and Jonathan Ive, yes. Apple products blatant rip offs of Braun products? Hardly. Yep I'm certainly going to confuse an iPod with a Braun thermostat. :rolleyes:

Hardly? Yeah they only incorporate like 95% of the visual asthetic to the design. Barely if any right? Are you part of Apple's legal team on retainer?
 
You got it chief. You and your unsourced statements win over my opinionated comments.

Keep on moving forward with the horse blinders thinking no one is bigger than Apple.

Samsung: Total assets US$ 384.3 billion (2011)
Samsung Electronics: Total assets US$ 135.131 billion (2011)
Apple: Total assets US$ 116.371*billion (2011)

I dont know if you can read those, be please feel free to try and do so. Please prove me wrong that 384.3 billion is less than 116.371 billion.
 
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