Samsung's Galaxy Note 8 Compared to iPhone 8 Dummy

[Breaking Good]

Just my US$0.02, I think both the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and the iPhone 8 will both be excellent devices. I believe that the vast majority of people who choose either of these two flagship devices will end up being highly satisfied.

 

[torana355]

Just my US$0.02, I think both the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and the iPhone 8 will both be excellent devices. I believe that the vast majority of people who choose either of these two flagship devices will end up being highly satisfied.

This is very true, and really Android and Apple have both had solid devices for the past few years. Some of us like IOS, some of us Android. Some of us like European sports cars, some of us like American muscle. Some of us like Classical music, others like Heavy Metal. Life is full of choices 🙂

 

[I7guy]

At 1200 it must be the best in everything. It's using Samsung Oled so there shouldn't be any issues. Certainly not as much as yellow tint and dead pixels.

Unfortunately Kodak Oled, which Samsung is using has issues, so I'm hoping the "apple" version at least mitigates some of the issues. Else there will be a lot of unhappy consumers. You know when you buy a car, price does not guarantee the car will never require warranty service. Same analogy applies here.

I don't understand where this shortage moaning comes from. Some colours are not in stock and people may have to wait some months for that but the product itself has always been available

I wait months after launch for my phones, so I don't know. I only know what I read online and MacRumors.

The Samsung galaxy s8 has destroyed every single,one of Apple's,designs. The iPhone 8mis a reaction to the s8. Please stop living the past with the old Samsung and old Apple.

Yes, the s8 phone is slightly better in some aspects and destroyed the iphone 7 in no aspect. Teleased a year later it should. But I would buy an iphone 7+ today.

It means exactly that. Is there an upgrade for the $499 price point with respect to iPad Air 2 which we used to get for years? There you are. The iPhone pro is now the cool kid on the block.

They are all the cool kids on the block.

I am pointing out facts

I'm making an opinion, based on facts, which is what all of this ultimately is anyway.

No one wants their phone to shatter due to a glass back so a case is given. A CPU upgrade and ram upgrade isn't enough because the phone is already fast. That all?

I am waiting to see how many shattered s8s there are. I never would buy a phone with just a cpu and ram upgrade. Camera, battery, different capabilities and functions, etc. absolutely. And I'm probably not alone.

Can you show me a single comprehensive review which proves the iPhone 7nhaving a better camera?

Go to greenbot.com. It shows very well some of the flaws of the galaxy line of cameras.

Yes $900 is $400 less than $1000. That Note 8 has expandable storage so it should be compared to the 256gb iPhone 8 which costs 400 more.

Is that android math. Maybe rational like this is why iphone is the biggest manufacturer of phones on the planet with the most profits to boot.

 

[Radon87000]

Unfortunately Kodak Oled, which Samsung is using has issues, so I'm hoping the "apple" version at least mitigates some of the issues.

There is no such thing as an Apple version. Its likely the same OLED used on the Note 8. Samsung is credited with making OLED production capable. Kodak's OLED looked worse than the worst form of LCD

Else there will be a lot of unhappy consumers.

There will be riots all over the internet. $1200 and burn in? A refurbished device as replacement within a month of purchase. Apple knows better

You know when you buy a car, price does not guarantee the car will never require warranty service. Same analogy applies here.

Higher price= Higher quality and better specs= Lesser chance of warranty replacement. A BMW has better build,looks,power and quality than a Honda

I wait months after launch for my phones, so I don't know. I only know what I read online and MacRumors.

Its nothing but a meme along with that hyped takedown of the Apple Store as if a company like Apple cant update the store without taking it down like Amazon

Yes, the s8 phone is slightly better in some aspects and destroyed the iphone 7 in no aspect.

Destorys it in design and display and build quality

hey are all the cool kids on the block.

The 7s is looking like a monster from 2005 next to all these bezelless flagships from Android and Apple so no

I am waiting to see how many shattered s8s there are. I never would buy a phone with just a cpu and ram upgrade. Camera, battery, different capabilities and functions, etc. absolutely. And I'm probably not alone.

Its got glass which automatically makes it weaker. Yes the S8 back will shatter if dropped unlike aluminium which would get by with a few dents. If Apple doesn't change the design of the 7s,glass is really irrelevant as all my phones get put in a case and screen protector the instant I unbox them

Go to greenbot.com. It shows very well some of the flaws of the galaxy line of cameras.

Its an Android news website. Are you seriously thinking them to be on the same level as Dxomark?

Is that android math. Maybe rational like this is why iphone is the biggest manufacturer of phones on the planet with the most profits to boot.

Substance over form. There is a HUGE HUGE difference between 64GB and 64GB+MicroSD. Those 7 letters at the end facilitate a comparison with the 256GB iPhone

 

[ackmondual]

People complain about the new the iPhone .... that Samsung is a monstrosity.

[shrug] Why not both?

 

[Tycho24]

Yes $900 is $400 less than $1000. That Note 8 has expandable storage so it should be compared to the 256gb iPhone 8 which costs 400 more.

Oh. Gotcha.
You’re comparing a $20 sd card to an nvme ssd.
You realize that’s two different beasts, yeah?

 

[jamesrick80]

Note 8 has the absolute best display ever according to displaymate and we thought the S8 was the icing on the cake. The iPhone most likely is using a older generation of amoled to profit more off the iphone fanboys. SAMSUNG is known for selling the older generation and keeping the best for themselves.

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note8_ShootOut_100.htm

What’s New

The Galaxy Note8 has the following major new display performance features and display functions, many which it shares with the Galaxy S8, and which we cover in detail throughout the article:



· A new larger 6.3 inch Full Screen Display that fills almost the entire front face of the Galaxy Note8 from edge-to-edge. Its display is 20% larger in screen area than the Galaxy S8 and 14% larger than previous Galaxy Note displays. The Home button and Navigations buttons are now incorporated within the touchscreen display.



· A new display form factor with a taller height to width Aspect Ratio of 18.5 : 9 = 2.05, which is 15% larger than the 16 : 9 = 1.78 on most Smartphones (and widescreen TVs) because the display now has the same overall shape as the entire phone. It is taller in Portrait mode and wider in Landscape mode. This provides extra space for Notifications and for displaying multiple Apps and content simultaneously on-screen side-by-side.



· A new 3K Higher Resolution 2960 x 1440 Quad HD+ display with 521 pixels per inch.



· Support for 4 Screen Modes and 3 Standard Color Gamuts with High Absolute Color Accuracy based on our extensive lab measurements.



· A new full 100% DCI-P3 Color Gamut and Digital Cinema mode that is also used for 4K Ultra HD TVs, so the Galaxy Note8 can display the latest high-end 4K video content. The DCI-P3 Gamut is 26 percent larger than the Rec.709 Gamut that is used in 2K Full HD TVs.



· The Galaxy Note8 is certified by the UHD Alliance for Mobile HDR Premium, which allows it to play all of the same 4K High Dynamic Range content produced for 4K UHD Premium TVs.



· A new Video Enhancer that provides HDR-like Expanded Dynamic Range for photos and videos that don’t have HDR coding.



· A new record high Peak Brightness of over 1,200 nits, which improves screen visibility in very high Ambient Light, and provides the high screen Brightness needed for HDR.



· A new user adjustable White Point with Color Balance slider controls that can change the Color of White for the Adaptive Display screen mode.



· New front and back Dual Ambient Light Sensors for significantly improved Automatic Brightness settings.



· A new Night Mode with a Blue Light Filter that allows the user to adjust and reduce the amount of blue light from the display for better night viewing and improved sleep.



What’s Improved

The Galaxy Note8 also has the following improved display performance features and display functions, many which it shares with the Galaxy S8, which we cover in detail throughout the article:



· Higher Screen Brightness that is up to 22% Brighter than the Galaxy S8.



· Larger Native Color Gamut with 112% DCI-P3 for better displayed Colors in High Ambient Light.



· Improved Absolute Color Accuracy.



· Improved Viewing Angle performance.



· Enhanced configurable Edge Display for the curved side screens.



· Enhanced Always On Display mode operated with IC hardware rather than App software.



· Enhanced Personalized Auto Brightness Control.



· Enhanced Image Processor for Adaptive Dynamic Brightness and Contrast Range Expansion.



· Enhanced Performance Modes and Power Saving Modes.



· Stronger curved Gorilla Glass 5 protecting the display.

 

[I7guy]

There is no such thing as an Apple version. Its likely the same OLED used on the Note 8. Samsung is credited with making OLED production capable. Kodak's OLED looked worse than the worst form of LCD

Kodak oled is what Samsung is likely using. You yourself claimed Samsung reserves the best "oled", but I guess not.

There will be riots all over the internet. $1200 and burn in? A refurbished device as replacement within a month of purchase. Apple knows better

Unfortunately the clock is ticking on this.

Higher price= Higher quality and better specs= Lesser chance of warranty replacement. A BMW has better build,looks,power and quality than a Honda

But not better reliability. Price does. It guarantee reliability.

Its nothing but a meme along with that hyped takedown of the Apple Store as if a company like Apple cant update the store without taking it down like Amazon

It's one of those true to life memes that seem to be true.

Destorys it in design and display and build quality

Except where the 7s looks better and feels better.

The 7s is looking like a monster from 2005 next to all these bezelless flagships from Android and Apple so no

The s8 is a generic ugly slab.

Its got glass which automatically makes it weaker. Yes the S8 back will shatter if dropped unlike aluminium which would get by with a few dents. If Apple doesn't change the design of the 7s,glass is really irrelevant as all my phones get put in a case and screen protector the instant I unbox them

Yes, shattered glass is An issue with the s8.

Its an Android news website. Are you seriously thinking them to be on the same level as Dxomark?

Yes, it's realistic rather than theoretical.

Substance over form. There is a HUGE HUGE difference between 64GB and 64GB+MicroSD. Those 7 letters at the end facilitate a comparison with the 256GB iPhone

Not much substance over a lot of form.

 

[Gameboy70]

That 25-35% number of people who don't use a case probably correlates well with people that care about how their phone looks and end up with broken/damaged phones.

It correlates with people who aren't lackadaisical in their phone usage. I've been using smartphones since the Treo 300 back in 2001, and I've never once dropped my phone. Aside for some pocket lint, every iPhone I've sold looks like it did on the day I bought it.

 

[rjohnstone]

Kodak oled is what Samsung is likely using. You yourself claimed Samsung reserves the best "oled", but I guess not.

Every OLED panel in use today uses some form of Kodak's IP in their manufacturing process.
But it isn't Samsung that relies heavily on it, that would be LG Display.

LG bought up the bulk of Kodak's OLED patent portfolio in 2009. Before OLED display really took off in phones.
LG OLED displays are based on the WOLED (White OLED) tech that Kodak developed. It's basically RGB + White.

Samsung uses some of the base OLED tech in it's displays, but those Kodak patents expired in 2007.
One of the major patent contributors to Samsung's AMOLED tech is from a company called Universal Display. It's based on using phosphorescent material vs Kodak's designs that are based on using florescent material.

It's Universal's OLED patents that Samsung uses to help make great displays, not Kodak's.
Universal also supplies the red phosphorescent material to Samsung.

Samsung developed the active matrix method of powering the display, hence the term AMOLED displays.
LG doesn't advertise what power matrix they use, but it is believed to be a combo of WOLED and AMOLED tech.

 

[I7guy]

Every OLED panel in use today uses some form of Kodak's IP in their manufacturing process.
But it isn't Samsung that relies heavily on it, that would be LG Display.

LG bought up the bulk of Kodak's OLED patent portfolio in 2009. Before OLED display really took off in phones.
LG OLED displays are based on the WOLED (White OLED) tech that Kodak developed. It's basically RGB + White.

Samsung uses some of the base OLED tech in it's displays, but those Kodak patents expired in 2007.
One of the major patent contributors to Samsung's AMOLED tech is from a company called Universal Display. It's based on using phosphorescent material vs Kodak's designs that are based on using florescent material.

It's Universal's OLED patents that Samsung uses to help make great displays, not Kodak's.
Universal also supplies the red phosphorescent material to Samsung.

Samsung developed the active matrix method of powering the display, hence the term AMOLED displays.
LG doesn't advertise what power matrix they use, but it is believed to be a combo of WOLED and AMOLED tech.

None of this would be possible without the early work of others before them is the point. Little hardware has been natively invented from either company.

 

[rjohnstone]

None of this would be possible without the early work of others before them is the point. Little hardware has been natively invented from either company.

Ahh so your one of those types.
Your post history clearly shows your bias. You pretty much state that everyone is standing on the shoulders of others when its not an Apple product. 🙄

 

[I7guy]

Ahh so your one of those types.
Your post history clearly shows your bias. You pretty much state that everyone is standing on the shoulders of others when its not an Apple product. 🙄

Ahh so your point is one of those. 😳 Even Apple stood on someone else's shoulders. And yes, my bias is toward the elimination of nonsense.🙂

 

[rjohnstone]

Ahh so your point is one of those. 😳 Even Apple stood on someone else's shoulders. And yes, my bias is toward the elimination of nonsense.🙂

Let's revisit your comment that started this conversation...

Kodak oled is what Samsung is likely using. You yourself claimed Samsung reserves the best "oled", but I guess not.

Your statement revealed that you believe Kodak's method is inferior and that it is "likely" that Samsung its using it.
I've provided evidence that your assumption is incorrect.

LG holds closer to the Kodak implementation and Samsung primarily uses Universal Display's IP in their displays.

Finally you claimed that Samsung did not use their best displays for themselves.
Samsung's SAMOLED panels have been the best on the market for several years.
Samsung has always put their best displays in their flagship phones.
They have yet to sell them to any other vendor.

Will they provide them to Apple? We'll soon find out.

 

[I7guy]

Let's revisit your comment that started this conversation...

Your statement revealed that you believe Kodak's method is inferior and that it is "likely" that Samsung its using it.
I've provided evidence that your assumption is incorrect.

LG holds closer to the Kodak implementation and Samsung primarily uses Universal Display's IP in their displays.

Finally you claimed that Samsung did not use their best displays for themselves.
Samsung's SAMOLED panels have been the best on the market for several years.
Samsung has always put their best displays in their flagship phones.
They have yet to sell them to any other vendor.

Will they provide them to Apple? We'll soon find out.

No my comment revealed Kodak has a patents related to the genesis of oled and Samsung did not invent oled as the technology has been around since 1988.

In the same way today's cellphones have their genesis in mobile phones from the 1940s and Apple did not invent the smartphone or the cellphone.

And my claim is Samsung (and LG) is not giving Apple left over oled panels from the reject bin for the upcoming and unannounced iPhone x edition.

So you got most of this incorrect.

 

[LordVic]

Don't worry. When Apple uses OLED it will be the best thing ever and there won't be any problems.

the claim will be "Because Apple does ti right and Better" completely ignoring the fact that the display is still going to be created by Samsung

 

[Radon87000]

Kodak oled is what Samsung is likely using. You yourself claimed Samsung reserves the best "oled", but I guess not.

Kodak's OLED isn't even production worthy. Samsung had to toil for years to make it usable.

Samsung reserves the very best OLED for its own phones. Google failed to procure that display so I have my doubts about Apple too. But it better have the best display on the planet for $1300

Unfortunately the clock is ticking on this.

So you think the all mighty perfect Apple is taking a risk with its cash cow the iPhone?

But not better reliability. Price does. It guarantee reliability.

Greater price= Better quality. This is one of the most fundamental principles in life.

It's one of those true to life memes that seem to be true.

If it was true,how come I never had any issues procuring any Apple products in the past 7 years within a month of launch?

Except where the 7s looks better and feels better.

So the $600 7S looks better and feels better than the $1200 iPhone 8?

The s8 is a generic ugly slab.

The iPhone 8 looks the same (even uglier using your standards) from the front whilst they are pretty much even on the back

Yes, shattered glass is An issue with the s8.

Time to take out an AppleCare because the entire iPhone lineup is now going glass

Yes, it's realistic rather than theoretical.

DXOMARK has real life pics. What were you saying again?

Not much substance over a lot of form.

I can store my 300GB music library on the $900 Note. Can I do the same on the iPhone 8?

 

[Nozuka]

Not necessarily. Galaxy S8 camera is flush and is ranked #4 while protruding camera on iPhone 7 is ranked 13th. Less than 1mm difference is insignificant.

https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles

no it's not insignificant. i had the galaxy s7 before the 7, which is even closer in thickness and it made a big difference to me, especially while having the phone in my pockets, but also while holding it with one hand.
the protruding camera on the iphone 7 never bothered me, i prefer the phone thinner. (but definitely looks worse on the iphone 8 mockups, i hope it will look better IRL)

but you can't make everyone happy.

 

[I7guy]

Kodak's OLED isn't even production worthy. Samsung had to toil for years to make it usable.

Samsung reserves the very best OLED for its own phones. Google failed to procure that display so I have my doubts about Apple too. But it better have the best display on the planet for $1300

oled has it's roots in the research Kodak and others before them did. Just like the modern day cell phone has it's roots in the mobile phones of the 1940's. As far as the part number of the iphone x edition, you can't know what the various suppliers are giving Apple, so you can't know whether or not Apple is getting the "best".

so you think the all mighty perfect Apple is taking a risk with its cash cow the iPhone?

One of two possibilities: the first is yes, apple is taking a risk and I'm not the only one that thinks so. The other is a special part number that apple is getting from it's suppliers that resolves, color shifting, uneven wear, burn-in and pink screen.

Greater price= Better quality. This is one of the most fundamental principles in life.

Is that why some very expensive cars are subject to "lower quality"?

If it was true,how come I never had any issues procuring any Apple products in the past 7 years within a month of launch?

A sample size of one, doesn't make your "argument" true in any sense of the word.

So the $600 7S looks better and feels better than the $1200 iPhone 8?

Looks, beauty etc are subjective,

The iPhone 8 looks the same (even uglier using your standards) from the front whilst they are pretty much even on the back

According to the renders the iphone x edition looks like a generic slab. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Time to take out an AppleCare because the entire iPhone lineup is now going glass

You mean back to glass. I always take out applecare though.

DXOMARK has real life pics. What were you saying again?

So does other websites and I gave you one that was a android biased website, that illustrate various deficiencies of the galaxy camera. What were you saying now?

I can store my 300GB music library on the $900 Note. Can I do the same on the iPhone 8?

It's called itunes, icloud, and I don't need to store anything. In the event, I'm going to a remote corner of the universe that doesn't have a cell signal, I'll take my ipod. But without a cell signal, there are bigger issues to worry about than your music library. As I said, an SD card is meaningless to me.

 

[dallas112678]

None of this would be possible without the early work of others before them is the point. Little hardware has been natively invented from either company.

Oh god, the overwhelming amount of products produced by today's major companies wouldn't have been possible without the early work of others. Including Apple.

 

[Medstar1]

Damn It Jim! I'm a doctor, not an I-phone!"