Just my US$0.02, I think both the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and the iPhone 8 will both be excellent devices. I believe that the vast majority of people who choose either of these two flagship devices will end up being highly satisfied.
This is very true, and really Android and Apple have both had solid devices for the past few years. Some of us like IOS, some of us Android. Some of us like European sports cars, some of us like American muscle. Some of us like Classical music, others like Heavy Metal. Life is full of choicesJust my US$0.02, I think both the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and the iPhone 8 will both be excellent devices. I believe that the vast majority of people who choose either of these two flagship devices will end up being highly satisfied.
Unfortunately Kodak Oled, which Samsung is using has issues, so I'm hoping the "apple" version at least mitigates some of the issues. Else there will be a lot of unhappy consumers. You know when you buy a car, price does not guarantee the car will never require warranty service. Same analogy applies here.At 1200 it must be the best in everything. It's using Samsung Oled so there shouldn't be any issues. Certainly not as much as yellow tint and dead pixels.
I wait months after launch for my phones, so I don't know. I only know what I read online and MacRumors.I don't understand where this shortage moaning comes from. Some colours are not in stock and people may have to wait some months for that but the product itself has always been available
Yes, the s8 phone is slightly better in some aspects and destroyed the iphone 7 in no aspect. Teleased a year later it should. But I would buy an iphone 7+ today.The Samsung galaxy s8 has destroyed every single,one of Apple's,designs. The iPhone 8mis a reaction to the s8. Please stop living the past with the old Samsung and old Apple.
They are all the cool kids on the block.It means exactly that. Is there an upgrade for the $499 price point with respect to iPad Air 2 which we used to get for years? There you are. The iPhone pro is now the cool kid on the block.
I'm making an opinion, based on facts, which is what all of this ultimately is anyway.I am pointing out facts
I am waiting to see how many shattered s8s there are. I never would buy a phone with just a cpu and ram upgrade. Camera, battery, different capabilities and functions, etc. absolutely. And I'm probably not alone.No one wants their phone to shatter due to a glass back so a case is given. A CPU upgrade and ram upgrade isn't enough because the phone is already fast. That all?
Go to greenbot.com. It shows very well some of the flaws of the galaxy line of cameras.Can you show me a single comprehensive review which proves the iPhone 7nhaving a better camera?
Is that android math. Maybe rational like this is why iphone is the biggest manufacturer of phones on the planet with the most profits to boot.Yes $900 is $400 less than $1000. That Note 8 has expandable storage so it should be compared to the 256gb iPhone 8 which costs 400 more.
There is no such thing as an Apple version. Its likely the same OLED used on the Note 8. Samsung is credited with making OLED production capable. Kodak's OLED looked worse than the worst form of LCDUnfortunately Kodak Oled, which Samsung is using has issues, so I'm hoping the "apple" version at least mitigates some of the issues.
There will be riots all over the internet. $1200 and burn in? A refurbished device as replacement within a month of purchase. Apple knows betterElse there will be a lot of unhappy consumers.
Higher price= Higher quality and better specs= Lesser chance of warranty replacement. A BMW has better build,looks,power and quality than a HondaYou know when you buy a car, price does not guarantee the car will never require warranty service. Same analogy applies here.
Its nothing but a meme along with that hyped takedown of the Apple Store as if a company like Apple cant update the store without taking it down like AmazonI wait months after launch for my phones, so I don't know. I only know what I read online and MacRumors.
Destorys it in design and display and build qualityYes, the s8 phone is slightly better in some aspects and destroyed the iphone 7 in no aspect.
The 7s is looking like a monster from 2005 next to all these bezelless flagships from Android and Apple so nohey are all the cool kids on the block.
I am waiting to see how many shattered s8s there are. I never would buy a phone with just a cpu and ram upgrade. Camera, battery, different capabilities and functions, etc. absolutely. And I'm probably not alone.
Its an Android news website. Are you seriously thinking them to be on the same level as Dxomark?Go to greenbot.com. It shows very well some of the flaws of the galaxy line of cameras.
Is that android math. Maybe rational like this is why iphone is the biggest manufacturer of phones on the planet with the most profits to boot.
[shrug] Why not both?People complain about the new the iPhone .... that Samsung is a monstrosity.
Yes $900 is $400 less than $1000. That Note 8 has expandable storage so it should be compared to the 256gb iPhone 8 which costs 400 more.
Kodak oled is what Samsung is likely using. You yourself claimed Samsung reserves the best "oled", but I guess not.There is no such thing as an Apple version. Its likely the same OLED used on the Note 8. Samsung is credited with making OLED production capable. Kodak's OLED looked worse than the worst form of LCD
Unfortunately the clock is ticking on this.There will be riots all over the internet. $1200 and burn in? A refurbished device as replacement within a month of purchase. Apple knows better
But not better reliability. Price does. It guarantee reliability.Higher price= Higher quality and better specs= Lesser chance of warranty replacement. A BMW has better build,looks,power and quality than a Honda
It's one of those true to life memes that seem to be true.Its nothing but a meme along with that hyped takedown of the Apple Store as if a company like Apple cant update the store without taking it down like Amazon
Except where the 7s looks better and feels better.Destorys it in design and display and build quality
The s8 is a generic ugly slab.The 7s is looking like a monster from 2005 next to all these bezelless flagships from Android and Apple so no
Yes, shattered glass is An issue with the s8.Its got glass which automatically makes it weaker. Yes the S8 back will shatter if dropped unlike aluminium which would get by with a few dents. If Apple doesn't change the design of the 7s,glass is really irrelevant as all my phones get put in a case and screen protector the instant I unbox them
Yes, it's realistic rather than theoretical.Its an Android news website. Are you seriously thinking them to be on the same level as Dxomark?
Not much substance over a lot of form.Substance over form. There is a HUGE HUGE difference between 64GB and 64GB+MicroSD. Those 7 letters at the end facilitate a comparison with the 256GB iPhone
It correlates with people who aren't lackadaisical in their phone usage. I've been using smartphones since the Treo 300 back in 2001, and I've never once dropped my phone. Aside for some pocket lint, every iPhone I've sold looks like it did on the day I bought it.That 25-35% number of people who don't use a case probably correlates well with people that care about how their phone looks and end up with broken/damaged phones.
Every OLED panel in use today uses some form of Kodak's IP in their manufacturing process.Kodak oled is what Samsung is likely using. You yourself claimed Samsung reserves the best "oled", but I guess not.
None of this would be possible without the early work of others before them is the point. Little hardware has been natively invented from either company.Every OLED panel in use today uses some form of Kodak's IP in their manufacturing process.
But it isn't Samsung that relies heavily on it, that would be LG Display.
LG bought up the bulk of Kodak's OLED patent portfolio in 2009. Before OLED display really took off in phones.
LG OLED displays are based on the WOLED (White OLED) tech that Kodak developed. It's basically RGB + White.
Samsung uses some of the base OLED tech in it's displays, but those Kodak patents expired in 2007.
One of the major patent contributors to Samsung's AMOLED tech is from a company called Universal Display. It's based on using phosphorescent material vs Kodak's designs that are based on using florescent material.
It's Universal's OLED patents that Samsung uses to help make great displays, not Kodak's.
Universal also supplies the red phosphorescent material to Samsung.
Samsung developed the active matrix method of powering the display, hence the term AMOLED displays.
LG doesn't advertise what power matrix they use, but it is believed to be a combo of WOLED and AMOLED tech.
Ahh so your one of those types.None of this would be possible without the early work of others before them is the point. Little hardware has been natively invented from either company.
Ahh so your point is one of those.Ahh so your one of those types.
Your post history clearly shows your bias. You pretty much state that everyone is standing on the shoulders of others when its not an Apple product.![]()
Let's revisit your comment that started this conversation...Ahh so your point is one of those.Even Apple stood on someone else's shoulders. And yes, my bias is toward the elimination of nonsense.
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Your statement revealed that you believe Kodak's method is inferior and that it is "likely" that Samsung its using it.Kodak oled is what Samsung is likely using. You yourself claimed Samsung reserves the best "oled", but I guess not.
No my comment revealed Kodak has a patents related to the genesis of oled and Samsung did not invent oled as the technology has been around since 1988.Let's revisit your comment that started this conversation...
Your statement revealed that you believe Kodak's method is inferior and that it is "likely" that Samsung its using it.
I've provided evidence that your assumption is incorrect.
LG holds closer to the Kodak implementation and Samsung primarily uses Universal Display's IP in their displays.
Finally you claimed that Samsung did not use their best displays for themselves.
Samsung's SAMOLED panels have been the best on the market for several years.
Samsung has always put their best displays in their flagship phones.
They have yet to sell them to any other vendor.
Will they provide them to Apple? We'll soon find out.
Don't worry. When Apple uses OLED it will be the best thing ever and there won't be any problems.
Kodak's OLED isn't even production worthy. Samsung had to toil for years to make it usable.Kodak oled is what Samsung is likely using. You yourself claimed Samsung reserves the best "oled", but I guess not.
So you think the all mighty perfect Apple is taking a risk with its cash cow the iPhone?Unfortunately the clock is ticking on this.
Greater price= Better quality. This is one of the most fundamental principles in life.But not better reliability. Price does. It guarantee reliability.
If it was true,how come I never had any issues procuring any Apple products in the past 7 years within a month of launch?It's one of those true to life memes that seem to be true.
So the $600 7S looks better and feels better than the $1200 iPhone 8?Except where the 7s looks better and feels better.
The iPhone 8 looks the same (even uglier using your standards) from the front whilst they are pretty much even on the backThe s8 is a generic ugly slab.
Time to take out an AppleCare because the entire iPhone lineup is now going glassYes, shattered glass is An issue with the s8.
DXOMARK has real life pics. What were you saying again?Yes, it's realistic rather than theoretical.
Not much substance over a lot of form.
Not necessarily. Galaxy S8 camera is flush and is ranked #4 while protruding camera on iPhone 7 is ranked 13th. Less than 1mm difference is insignificant.
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oled has it's roots in the research Kodak and others before them did. Just like the modern day cell phone has it's roots in the mobile phones of the 1940's. As far as the part number of the iphone x edition, you can't know what the various suppliers are giving Apple, so you can't know whether or not Apple is getting the "best".Kodak's OLED isn't even production worthy. Samsung had to toil for years to make it usable.
Samsung reserves the very best OLED for its own phones. Google failed to procure that display so I have my doubts about Apple too. But it better have the best display on the planet for $1300
One of two possibilities: the first is yes, apple is taking a risk and I'm not the only one that thinks so. The other is a special part number that apple is getting from it's suppliers that resolves, color shifting, uneven wear, burn-in and pink screen.so you think the all mighty perfect Apple is taking a risk with its cash cow the iPhone?
Is that why some very expensive cars are subject to "lower quality"?Greater price= Better quality. This is one of the most fundamental principles in life.
A sample size of one, doesn't make your "argument" true in any sense of the word.If it was true,how come I never had any issues procuring any Apple products in the past 7 years within a month of launch?
Looks, beauty etc are subjective,So the $600 7S looks better and feels better than the $1200 iPhone 8?
According to the renders the iphone x edition looks like a generic slab. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.The iPhone 8 looks the same (even uglier using your standards) from the front whilst they are pretty much even on the back
You mean back to glass. I always take out applecare though.Time to take out an AppleCare because the entire iPhone lineup is now going glass
So does other websites and I gave you one that was a android biased website, that illustrate various deficiencies of the galaxy camera. What were you saying now?DXOMARK has real life pics. What were you saying again?
It's called itunes, icloud, and I don't need to store anything. In the event, I'm going to a remote corner of the universe that doesn't have a cell signal, I'll take my ipod. But without a cell signal, there are bigger issues to worry about than your music library. As I said, an SD card is meaningless to me.I can store my 300GB music library on the $900 Note. Can I do the same on the iPhone 8?
None of this would be possible without the early work of others before them is the point. Little hardware has been natively invented from either company.