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Well that's on youtube not on IOS 11. However, back to what one's subjective preferences are and what one likes better, in the differences between the two operating system.

Preferring the scrolling lag on iphone and yet criticizing the micro-stutters lag when fast scrolling in Android is hypocritical, imo.
 
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No, not at all. Android imo lags, stutters whatever the word more than iOS.

Edit: comparing my 5s running iOS 11 which you say still has lag with an s8 which has lag speaks volumes about a 4 year old phone comparing to a 3 month old phone.

Do you have an S8 i7guy?
Not that I don't believe you, but it just seems unlikely..

iPhones do lag, all phones are capable of lag.
https://www.google.co.nz/search?ie=...N5Waz5BYTp8wfPoLm4DA#q=iphone+7+lag&tbs=qdr:y

Isn't this a thread about the Note 8?
 
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Do you have an S8 i7guy?
Not that I don't believe you, but it just seems unlikely..

iPhones do lag, all phones are capable of lag.
https://www.google.co.nz/search?ie=...N5Waz5BYTp8wfPoLm4DA#q=iphone+7+lag&tbs=qdr:y

Isn't this a thread about the Note 8?
Look at the list history of what the guy I quoted is talking about. My buddy has an s8 and get to see it in action (or inaction) as it were. But yet this is s thread about the note 8 and even though I will never buy a Samsung phone, doesn't mean I'm not interested in the market.
 
Thanks man!
You really gave me other insights.
We are all apple sheep and don' t know what is out there.
We are really ignorant.
Thanks pointing that out on an apple fanbased forum. You are doing the smart thing, educating all of us.

But please, if you are not interested in apple products, and your intention is just to tell us we are morons, it would be better to stay away.
It is just not usefull. We have better things to do , and i really hope you have, too.

You sound super butthurt. Get your panties out of a bunch. The man didn't say anything that bad.
 
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You sound super butthurt. Get your panties out of a bunch. The man didn't say anything that bad.

Yes, he did, he said he was "teaching us", that's just about the most condescending thing someone can say. Who the hell does he think he is? And the same goes to you; stay in your own conversation cause you got nothing with you cheap insults.
 
Yes, he did, he said he was "teaching us", that's just about the most condescending thing someone can say. Who the hell does he think he is? And the same goes to you; stay in your own conversation cause you got nothing with you cheap insults.
Still so butthurt and angry for no reason. 99% of people on MacRumors are condescending. Get over it toots. Plus this is a forum, I can butt in if I want.
 
Edit: comparing my 5s running iOS 11 which you say still has lag with an s8 which has lag speaks volumes about a 4 year old phone comparing to a 3 month old phone.

My iPhone 6 is unusable on iOS 11. None of my Android phones have been wrecked this badly
 
I just switched to a Galaxy S8+ after only ever owning iPhones. I love it; the OS is stable and fluid. I can't see myself going back to an iPhone.

It Android -- fluid and stable is the anathema of android. Add in the Samsung bloatware and its just a subpar mobile experience.
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Me too. I have a S8 and an iPad Pro. But, neither IOS or Android seems superior to me. Same when comparing Windows to MacOS.

The application stack in Android is sub par. iOS 11 on iPad is a far better experience and far more productive than any Android tablet. The Android OS ecosystem is fragmented at best and the applications in Android are rarely as good. The stock Google apps are good but the tablet experience for them is half and half.
 
I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 and the lag is certainly present and annoys me constantly. My Google Pixel is smooth but the apps on Android are in general worse than iOS. Suffice to say I am going back to iOS for my primary phone. I will keep an Android phone around as a backup though.
 
Great, my 5s is very usable as a daily driver with iOS 11. You got a faulty phone.

Lol you are delusional.

I just sold my gs7 to a co worker that is on a 5s and the phone runs like absolute crap and the guy factory reset it 5 times.

This is coming from his own mouth..."apple slows the phones down with updates to push you to buy new phones".
 
I have been refusing to buy any smartphones without a user replaceable battery but I am running out of options.
 
Both the Samsung and Apple phones are good hardware. Design may be a matter of taste but they are both good phones. However, software is where Apple comes out on top in this regard. iOS is simply better and its better matched with the iPhone chips and hardware because they are designed together. Hence the iPhone experience will always be better.
 
I'm torn cause most apps I like perform better on android but all the cases on iOS. I hate the notification look on both iOS and android. Sigh
 
Lol you are delusional.

I just sold my gs7 to a co worker that is on a 5s and the phone runs like absolute crap and the guy factory reset it 5 times.

This is coming from his own mouth..."apple slows the phones down with updates to push you to buy new phones".
It's unfortunate you dont have any experience to render a viable judgment.:rolleyes: Much less an insult.
 
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I'm torn cause most apps I like perform better on android but all the cases on iOS. I hate the notification look on both iOS and android. Sigh

The problem with Android is the fragmented user base. The version of Android is dependent on phone model and carrier. Also most developers build applications for iOS first because they get paid more for them. The Android versions of applications lag in development because Android apps have to be refactored for the multiple versions of Android that are in the wild reflecting that fragmented user base.

With iOS - there is mostly one and maybe two versions of the iOS in the wild and one hardware platform. There are no variations based on Carriers.

The iOS ecosystem is just a far more unified and integrated ecosystem.
 
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It's unfortunate you dont have any experience to render a viable judgment.:rolleyes: Much less an insult.

I have 3 co-workers that all use iPhones and said the same exact thing.

Older iPhones run like absolute crap on iOS 11
 
I have 3 co-workers that all use iPhones and said the same exact thing.

Older iPhones run like absolute crap on iOS 11
My opinion is that iOS 11 b4 runs better than iOS 7. You are not taking 4 year old hardware and pretending it's better than today's hardware, but "running like crap" on iOS 11 is nowhere near what I'm seeing.
 
It Android -- fluid and stable is the anathema of android. Add in the Samsung bloatware and its just a subpar mobile experience.
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You are just regurgitating issues from long ago.

What Samsung bloatware are you talking about? All the included apps are pretty useful.

The application stack in Android is sub par. iOS 11 on iPad is a far better experience and far more productive than any Android tablet. The Android OS ecosystem is fragmented at best and the applications in Android are rarely as good. The stock Google apps are good but the tablet experience for them is half and half.

Care to give some (crucial) examples how apps are better on iOS?

Off my mind I can tell you that keyboard/browser/Google/widget/messaging apps are all better on Android.

Plus there are thousands of apps in many application areas that are available on Android that are not available on iOS because of inferior and subpar core iOS capability.
 
Care to give some (crucial) examples how apps are better on iOS?

Off my mind I can tell you that keyboard/browser/Google/widget/messaging apps are all better on Android.

Plus there are thousands of apps in many application areas that are available on Android that are not available on iOS because of inferior and subpar core iOS capability.
List the best apps Android has to offer for each category and those are likely considered "entry-level" for us iOS users.

Offhand, there are the many quality apps which are available only on iOS. We are spoilt for choice in emails apps alone (having Spark, Airmail, Dispatch and Newton). Same with Twitter clients, where iOS has tweetbot, and the rest of the 3rd party twitter apps on Android are a hot mess. If I want to access files from my phone, iOS has Coda and Transmit, while the Android equivalent (AndFTP) apparently has quite the horrendous UI.

Then there are apps for audio recording (GarageBand, Ferrite), annotation (pinpoint, annotable, plus they work better with photos extensions in iOS 8), photo editing (pixelmator), generating affiliate links (Blink), podcasts (iOS has Overcast) and calendar apps (Fantastical). Heck, even Google makes the effort to ensure that their iOS apps are on par with the Android apps, if not better in terms of performance and functionality.

Uber and Lyft allow for Maps and Siri integration in iOS 10 (something Google had to do on its own, and even then only for Uber, while Apple simply provided the SDK and let Uber do the work itself).

So in summary, Android may be home to good apps, but iOS remains home to the best apps for getting any sort of task done. I think it's safe to conclude that when someone tells you that Android is “more powerful” than iOS, they’re probably talking about changing the UI font, or using a custom home screen, or using Tasker to automate little things like turning off Wifi when I leave the house; they’re not talking about getting real work done.
 
You are just regurgitating issues from long ago.

What Samsung bloatware are you talking about? All the included apps are pretty useful.



Care to give some (crucial) examples how apps are better on iOS?

Off my mind I can tell you that keyboard/browser/Google/widget/messaging apps are all better on Android.

Plus there are thousands of apps in many application areas that are available on Android that are not available on iOS because of inferior and subpar core iOS capability.
Messaging app called iMessage trumps all other messaging apps. Video app called FaceTime trumps all other video apps. Additionally If Samsung bloatware apps are useful than so are iOS apps.

Additionally many app developers state crucial apps are deployed on iOS first.
 
Messaging app called iMessage trumps all other messaging apps. Video app called FaceTime trumps all other video apps. Additionally If Samsung bloatware apps are useful than so are iOS apps.

Additionally many app developers state crucial apps are deployed on iOS first.
The iMessage app trumps all messaging apps on iOS, it isn't available on Android.
I live in a world dominated by android. iMessage is useless to me, yet I can send messages to iMessage from any messaging app on android.
It's a moot argument really.
If they made iMessage for android, then we could talk how awesome it is.
 
The iMessage app trumps all messaging apps on iOS, it isn't available on Android.
I live in a world dominated by android. iMessage is useless to me, yet I can send messages to iMessage from any messaging app on android.
It's a moot argument really.
If they made iMessage for android, then we could talk how awesome it is.
Having used android messaging apps, single platform iMessage is better, imo. But you are correct you are going for the best available to android.
 
List the best apps Android has to offer for each category and those are likely considered "entry-level" for us iOS users.

Offhand, there are the many quality apps which are available only on iOS. We are spoilt for choice in emails apps alone (having Spark, Airmail, Dispatch and Newton). Same with Twitter clients, where iOS has tweetbot, and the rest of the 3rd party twitter apps on Android are a hot mess. If I want to access files from my phone, iOS has Coda and Transmit, while the Android equivalent (AndFTP) apparently has quite the horrendous UI.

Then there are apps for audio recording (GarageBand, Ferrite), annotation (pinpoint, annotable, plus they work better with photos extensions in iOS 8), photo editing (pixelmator), generating affiliate links (Blink), podcasts (iOS has Overcast) and calendar apps (Fantastical). Heck, even Google makes the effort to ensure that their iOS apps are on par with the Android apps, if not better in terms of performance and functionality.

Uber and Lyft allow for Maps and Siri integration in iOS 10 (something Google had to do on its own, and even then only for Uber, while Apple simply provided the SDK and let Uber do the work itself).

So in summary, Android may be home to good apps, but iOS remains home to the best apps for getting any sort of task done. I think it's safe to conclude that when someone tells you that Android is “more powerful” than iOS, they’re probably talking about changing the UI font, or using a custom home screen, or using Tasker to automate little things like turning off Wifi when I leave the house; they’re not talking about getting real work done.

There are similar apps. You missing the point that good apps just don't work in silo. Yes, you can have the most super duper app but without proper integration to os is like a Frankenstein solution. E.g. click a link to send a email in iPhone, the default email is used not your super fantastic email app.

Plus a phone is more of a personal than a work device. If you want to create media/content you use a PC/Mac/tablet.

Automation is one area iPhone is lacking. You want to sync or upload photo/files in iOS, you have to sit there with app opened and wait for task to complete. Or why do you always need to silent your phone manually in iPhone. On Android I can have apps to take care of these mundane tasks for me automatically (based on rules/scenarios)

We use our device for communication. There is no apps on iPhone that can do call management like blacklist/call recording/rules filtering.

There are just too many areas and tasks that iPhone just can't do. Granted that some apps are more polished on iPhone but thats about it. These polished apps cannot leverage or integrate with the underlying os (or other 3rd party apps) to give a much greater capabilities and offer more complete workflow experience.
 
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