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iOS is like a golf cart compared to Android which is like a Tesla in comparison. iOS has fewer features but isn't easier while Android has more smarter features while being more intuitive. For example, the retirees next door come to me for help with updating iOS on their iPhone since the option is burried unintuitively deep compared to Android which is like 3 easy taps.

Intuitive is one thing Android isn't, unless the definition of intuitive is "let's throw everything and the kitchen sink at a wall and see what sticks".
 
$720 vs $1000 for very similar feature set and specs (yea, I get it, the X has a better processor).

That's over 33% more expensive. They are not in the same price range.

It's literally closer to $500 than $1000.
Hate to point out the obvious, 720 vs 1000 does not equal 33%.

You probably missed the price of $840, that's the premium category comparison that is equivalent to iPhone X in price and as such should be compared.

S9, price and all, should be compared to iPhone 8 and not to iPhone X. I should have stated that more clearly to begin with.
 
You probably missed the price of $840, that's the premium category comparison that is equivalent to iPhone X in price and as such should be compared.

S9, price and all, should be compared to iPhone 8 and not to iPhone X. I should have stated that more clearly to begin with.

And going even deeper.. If purchased from Verizon the 9+ is $930 -v- the X @ $999
 
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Like the notch,bendgate and attenagate?

The notch is a design feature, like the Hofmeister Kink on BMW’s. You can like it or not, but it makes the phone instantly recognisable (that’s not to say they didn’t have to put it there for technical reasons, of course).

Bendgate and antennagate have been vastly overplayed.
We can consider them product implementation issues, but I was referring to industrial design only from the merely aesthetic and ergonomic point of view.

To me, the only ugly spots in the iPhone 6 design were the antenna bands, fixed in the following iterations of the design, peaking with the iPhone 8, which for sure will be regarded as a timeless classic just as the iPhone 5S/SE.
 
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Source / link to said mass iPhones blowing up links please...

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There is no way in hell the iPhone X could start at $800 with a $210 camera array for face ID. The S9 has nothing that can compete with that piece of technology, which is the true differentiator for the iPhone X. And performance wise, it's still going to fall slightly behind the iPhone 8. Yes, I would prefer the S9 design to the 8 but I'm not falling for the X comparison.
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Yes, it's definitely a preference and ecosystem thing. But let's not kid ourselves, you can't enter Apple's ecosystem from the Galaxy phones and vice verse. The Android ecosystem is definitely more open but the tradeoff there is usually that you will require more setup and configuration. Sometimes it's not the case and Android is more versatile for sure.

As far as wireless goes, I'd be interested in knowing how well Apple's W1/W2 chip enhances sound over bluetooth's current codecs. Until Bluetooth 5.0 gets the audio codecs to take advantage of the enhanced bandwidth, it's still the same old bluetooth as far as audio goes.

More open to what? There are just 2 ecosystems. So you are locked in one of the two. I never understand this sh*t people talk. It’s not like there are 10 ecosystems and you can load the other 9 on an android.

Side loading apps is a different thing. But, that comes down to ones choice of security on the phone.
 
Hahahahahaha,,,,,,

One phone having an issue is now the same as the Note fiasco? Please just stop, you're embarrassing yourself now.

There has been a crap load of phones that blew up.its the nature of lithium batteries.

Look at the crap batteries apple used that cant even hold there c rating for a year and shut phones down at 40 % life.

Oh wait apple is getting sued for it by like 30 countries right now lol

Talk about widespread there was only like 8 reported cases of the note blowing up but samsung did the right thing and issued a recal.

Something apple would never do.instead they would slow your phone down 80% to take load off the battery to avoid it swelling up and bursting
 
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Fine hardware I am sure, but it runs Android. Not really a consideration for the majority of people on here. I don't see any difference from the S8 though so that's probably the better buy.
 
There has been a crap load of phones that blew up.its the nature of lithium batteries.

Look at the crap batteries apple used that cant even hold there c rating for a year and shut phones down at 40 % life.

Oh wait apple is getting sued for it by like 30 countries right now lol

I'll just assume you have no proof of your false claims. Sometimes its best to just admit you were wrong or quietly move along.

So ----> For the 3rd time --> Proof that iPhones explode and catch fire at a similar widespread, global and mass rate that the Notes did please..
 
Why don't you just install FreeBSD on your phone while you're at it?

Why not? Linux is doable.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy

Considering Tim Cook touts the iPad as a computer replacement and the iPhone is just a smaller iPad. Why limit your device to just Candy Crush and Facebook? Being that you live in a major tech hub, a large part of the population there know Linux for work and even middle grade students are exposed to Linux if not sooner.
 
Still running Android and still an inferior ecosystem.

Hardware does look good, though.

Not sure how Android is an inferior ecosystem with all the customization you can do, google apps that run on every operating system and web based applications. Apple not having this is what makes it's ecosystem inferior in my mind.

The one gripe I have with Google's ecosystem is they have too many apps that do the same or similar things. Hangouts, sms app, duo, tasks, keep, gmail and inbox. They need to kill some of these apps and simplify.
 
This makes zero sense as the screen,camera,ram,and process node are the best you can use right now.

The gs9 just got the longest lasting battery review also and is on a first firmware without any apps optimized yet.

Agree, besides Apples only uses premium parts for the features they have to announce in the beynote. Or people still believe the shutdowns are because of a "normal" battery.
 
Have you ever picked one up and felt it in hand? It's very well designed
I’ve held the 8. It’s too big for my liking. I’m not a fan of the wrapped screen. The color choices are odd. The cameras and fingerprint sensor on the back look awkward. And the whole thing looks like a sandwich where the meat is too big for the bread. But that’s JMHO.
 
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Just out of curiosity, why is S9+ more expensive at Verizon? Is it any different than other variants of it (other than cellular radio)?

It's more at all the carriers except T-Mobile..

The Galaxy S9 will cost $720 at T-Mobile, $790.20 at AT&T, $792 at Sprint, and $799.99 at Verizon.

The Galaxy S9+ will cost $840 at T-Mobile, $912 at Sprint, $915 at AT&T, and $929.99 at Verizon.

My guess is the carriers know most will upgrade through them as opposed to buying from Samsung direct so they are upping the prices assuming most will buy from them and / or have no clue about the lower direct price.
 
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I like my iPhone X, but I just don’t get excited over smart phone tech like I use to. From any company.

A bit stale if you ask me.

Smartphones are definitely in the mature stage of the life cycle at this point. I'm just not sure how much more they can do. I think the big one is them getting better at AI and Siri seems to continue to slip in the category. I'm amazed at when I'm trying to look up something on a famous person and Siri can never understand me but Google assistant always gets it in one attempt.
 
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Hate to point out the obvious, 720 vs 1000 does not equal 33%.

You probably missed the price of $840, that's the premium category comparison that is equivalent to iPhone X in price and as such should be compared.

S9, price and all, should be compared to iPhone 8 and not to iPhone X. I should have stated that more clearly to begin with.
You are correct of course. The iPhone X is $280 more expensive than the $720 Galaxy S9 which is actually 39% more ($280/$720).

The comparison to the iPhone 8 is a matter of opinion though. I don't understand why you think the iPhone X is in a category by itself when spec and design wise it is extremely comparable to the Galaxy S9. The most compelling and expensive feature on the iPhone X is the 5.8" AMOLED screen with an 18:9 aspect ratio which is almost identical to the display on the S9. FaceID is the main significant differentiating hardware feature between the X and the S9 and I doubt there are many outside the Apple fanatics that think that is worth $300 more when compared to TouchID.

The comparisons to the Galaxy S9 Plus will be drastically different in a few months when the iPhone X+ with a similarly sized screen is announced. That $840 price point will suddenly have legitimate competition at $1,100 or more.
 
hmm Galaxy repeated he same design from S8 to S9 (so far). Apple: 6, 6s, 7, 8.
Galaxy has had the same design except for the screen, since S6. Look at the the side frame, the back, the design language is a carry over instead of new.

The comparison to the iPhone 8 is a matter of opinion though. I don't understand why you think the iPhone X is in a category by itself when spec and design wise it is extremely comparable to the Galaxy S9. The most compelling and expensive feature on the iPhone X is the 5.8" AMOLED screen with an 18:9 aspect ratio which is almost identical to the display on the S9. FaceID is the main significant differentiating hardware feature between the X and the S9 and I doubt there are many outside the Apple fanatics that think that is worth $300 more when compared to TouchID.

The comparisons to the Galaxy S9 Plus will be drastically different in a few months when the iPhone X+ with a similarly sized screen is announced. That $840 price point will suddenly have legitimate competition at $1,100 or more.
Another perspective of looking at the $280 price difference, it is 28% less than the iPhone X. But again, I would compare the priciest Samsung premium phone, that is the S9+ (at >$900), which is compared to the iPhone X at $1000, is in the same ballpark.

The most compelling feature that the X has in terms of technological leap, is the FaceID. Samsung or any other phone maker has shown that they have capability to match that. And thus Samsung comes up with a design that has every form of authentication in it (including the kitchen sink). FaceID alone is in my opinion, the difference in cost.

But as far as cost, cost of the hardware to the manufacturer is not how a product is priced. Every business professor will tell a budding entrepreneur 'to charge for a product a price that the market will bear'. That is perfectly applicable here.
 
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Oh so because they more or less copied the Animoji feature and a less secure Face ID :rolleyes: yet when Apple does it they are not innovating and no one will buy it, talk about double standards :rolleyes:

Don't recall anyone saying those particular things weren't innovative. Animoji's aren't particularly important but I'd say they were innovative.
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On the hardware side maybe, but noting beats the simplicity of iOS.

You using ios 6 because simplicity went out the window after that.
 
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