LOL.. Make up your mind. You said updating Android was 3 simple taps and iOS had the setting buried unintuitively deep..
That's your retort when proven wrong? Have you ever even used iOS? I'd guess no based on your responses.... Next..........
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LOL.. Make up your mind. You said updating Android was 3 simple taps and iOS had the setting buried unintuitively deep..
That's your retort when proven wrong? Have you ever even used iOS? I'd guess no based on your responses.... Next..........
Agreed... the 30% Apple tax is getting old. Especially when the iPhone 6 cost $650 and so did the Galaxy line at the time. If Apple insists upon a $1000 flagship phone, then I don't know how much longer I'll be using an iPhone.
Oh well. It's also mystifying to me why anybody would buy an iPhone X.
(disclaimer: I use a company iPhone 7 and my private device is an iPhone 6s that is still sniggering at the lack of a worthy replacement)
I guess it all depends on how you look at it. Higher price in the competition range in bold
Entry devices:
iPhone 8 = $699
Galaxy S9 = $720 from Samsung / more $$ through carriers
Plus devices:
iPhone 8 Plus = $799
Galaxy S9+ = $840 from Samsung / more $$ through carriers
Highest priced devices:
iPhone X = $999
Galaxy Note 8 = $950
Now I realize the X and the Note 8 are not direct competition but they are the highest offerings from each.
I think this is kind of exaggeratory. You’re making it sound like the icons are obtrusively large or distracting, and the user interface is as clean as I would want it as it is. iOS has always been standardized in this aspect. And I have used android as well for a comparison. To each their own. I understand the customization standpoint, but I rarely ever hear complaints about iOS lacking customization with the homepage.
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Besides, don't worry, $1000 is only a stepping-stone price. This year we probably see $1200, next $1500. The "payment plan" push makes it easy to make "only $8.XX more" work at a flagship price of $2000 if one tacks on enough time. Think car company advertising where the price to own is no longer acceptable (to many), so the lease deals just squeeze and squeeze the terms to keep a monthly payment in some goldilocks zone. Hmmmm.... iPhone lease deals next?
For car buyers, the terms used to be 36 or 48 months. Now they hang at 72 months and should shift on to 84 and 96 soon... again to fit a payment into a "goldilocks" zone so that prices can keep right on going up and up.
Place your bets: do we see the iPhone 36 and 48-month terms with the next flagship or the one after that?
Edit: it is pointed out to me later that most people are already LEASING their iPhones. Sorry about my confusion above... still thinking a cell phone is something most people actually own. Viva payments forever!!!
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If you're a zillion dollar company that does this for four years in a row, yea, you deserve to be called boring and stale.
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Look Mom - a larger phone that looks identical to the Pixel XL and the LG V30 and the....
As someone said elsewhere, the S9/S9+ are direct competition to the X, not the 8/8+. Samsung prices them slightly higher than 8/8+ because they position them as better devices (probably true?).
Apple decided to release the X for $1000 and release a fourth gen iPhone 6 called the iPhone 8 for $700. Simply put, Apple could have easily released the 8 for $650, 8+ for $750, and the X for $850 and still made BANK. Or they could have released the iPhone X for $700, not had an 8/8+ and still made BANK. They decided to raise their base price of their flagship device by $300+, and try to appease fans with a ****** fourth-gen 6. So I will compare the X to the S9 accordingly.
(The Note is obviously doing the same thing, and I have the same critique to Samsung as Apple. But nobody here is defending the Note, so that's why I comment mostly on the X.)
You are stratifying by price and assuming similarly priced items are competitive. The iPhone 8 is not competitive with the Galaxy S9. It is a four-generation old LCD design with huge bezels while the S9 has a full-screen AMOLED display.
When you look at design and features though, the Galaxy S9 is more comparable to the iPhone X and the Galaxy S9+ is more comparable to the rumored upcoming 6.4" iPhone X Plus which will likely be priced at $1,100. That is the OP's point, for similar specifications Apple devices are significantly higher in price.
The reason your table looks good is because Apple currently has nothing that competes with the S9+ or the Note 8 and consequently everything is pushed down a notch or two. An iPhone Pro with Apple Pencil support would be competitive with the Note 8, but that doesn't even exist and even if it did it would likely be $1,300.
Just because someone said it somewhere does not make it true. When someone goes into a carrier store to look for a base model they are deciding between the 8 and the S9. If they are interested in the larger phones they are deciding between the 8 Plus and the S9+.
Sure it's convenient to say the X is competing with S9 and the S9+ if you are trying to reach a certain conclusion to self justify an argument but to me it's a silly comparison..
You're looking at it backwards. Nobody cares what the components in the iPhone cost, we care what the device can do. Apple has *very* high margins and if we looked at on a cost/profit basis, the iPhone is a huge ripoff for the consumer compared to Samsung. Lucky for Apple, it makes little sense to look at it that way.
Also, citation needed on your $210 figure for Face ID, please. Everything I'd read says the X costs Apple $115 more than the 8, and a big chunk of that is the more expensive screen. Where's you're $210 figure from?
Yes, we all know the tradeoffs, fwiw, I'm here because I prefer (and own) an iPhone. But I was replying to the comment that it's mystifying that someone would even consider a Samsung phone at the same price as an iPhone.
Frankly, google scares me. But on the other hand, I'd love for homekit to have a more open API so I could control my Particle.io IoT controllers with Siri. It works easily with google and alexa. With Apple, I need to use Siri to create an SMS message to IFTTT which then creates an event in the Particle API. Total kludge, and it frustrates me to no end that it's a huge pain to do anything Apple doesn't think is worthy of a keynote feature.
That's one of the things where my old (wired) QC25's are hugely superior to anything Apple has a wireless chip in that it seems like a made up argument to me. Like you're going to use a much more expensive technology that you *know* won't sound as good because you want wireless, but then you want to argue over tiny little barely perceptible differences in apparent sound quality. The physical speakers in every Apple device just aren't good enough for it to matter.
And the QC35 v2's I played with are absolutely amazing, blowing Apple/beats out of the water in the headphone space; but I won't spend that kind of money on earphones with non-replacable batteries. $350US for earphones that are garbage in 3 years? No thinks, no matter how good they sound.
These phones are perfect match for those people who buy a car just because "it looks good and has a good stereo", when the parts that make it be a car are junk.
Samsung phones are just a cheaper alternative to the iPhone. Just like buying gold plated jewelry instead of solid gold jewelery.
Samsung phones are just a cheaper alternative to the iPhone. Just like buying gold plated jewelry instead of solid gold jewelery.
Apple knows nearly everyone hates the notch (that's why I returned mine after 1 day. That's why it will be gone next year. Till then I'll stick with my iPhone 8 aND GALAXY S8.
Really? Is that why it's been the best selling iPhone since it was released?
After seeing what my friend dealt with trying to resolve issues on his Samsung phone, I'll never buy one. Also trying and after seeing their brand new flagship phones lagging in the store. The price on the S9 is already bad if you consider it basically lasts half as long due to lack of Android updates (=> security risk).
They're not comparable though. The iPhone X is more like an iPod with calling capability while the Galaxy S9 is more of a universal all-in-one computer, gaming console, etc. replacement.
The $1K iPhone X can't even maintain a SSH session in the background that even a $5 Raspberry Pi Zero SBC can do.
Side-by-side, the Samsung's overall design has Apple beat hands-down. I recently bought an S8 after much store-shopping & comparing side-by-side, in-hand, etc. No doubt about it. Apple should take a page out of Samsung's S8 and soon to be S9 as to physical design. Inside more of a personal preference. iPhone X? Now way shelling out a grand for something's that's gonna be dated in another year.
Seriously, the camera on the back and the weird paint look like something out of 2005.
Give me an iphone x with a fingerprint under the screen and I'll be happy. I enter my password at least 5x/day now because it doesn't like the angle I'm holding it, or some other bs.
People's perceive of the notch with the feeling of loosing part of the display area, not realizing that on the contrary, they are gaining display area.
Apple is using the space on the sides of the notch to display the top bar information what otherwise would be taking space below the 'notch'.
Also, if everyone hates the notch, why are there so many android copycats releasing phones with the notch, and Google just released a version of Android that supports it ???
Apparently, the 'notch' is the new fashion.