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It’s ridiculously overporiced. It’s a basic smart TV with sub par build quality. Just watch and see.


Thanks for this context...promo renderings make it look better than it does in this video.

Cheap stand made with plastics. Yes it's adjustable, but doesn't look very sturdy if you touch it or bump the desk.

If one were to go 4K 32", my suggestion would be to spend a bit more and get a Dell.
 
I'm not gonna lie and say I'm a little salty that I literally just got the M7 Samsung monitor to go with my Mac studio. Thinking about returning it and pre ordering this but All the M8 is really giving me is a brighter screen, and iMac look and a webcam...for $700. I. might just keep what I have.
 
I'm not gonna lie and say I'm a little salty that I literally just got the M7 Samsung monitor to go with my Mac studio. Thinking about returning it and pre ordering this but All the M8 is really giving me is a brighter screen, and iMac look and a webcam...for $700. I. might just keep what I have.
The aesthetics of M8 is nicer, but I guess it depends on how much you paid for M7.
 
The DR is related to contrast ratio, not necessarily peak brightness.



That's because other than VESA's HDR 400 certification, which is a joke, as it doesn't require any of the three characteristics that HDR capable displays tend to improve on to be better than standard SDR displays, VESA's other certifications require a contrast ratio that the ASD can't reach (and neither that Samsung).



Neither can the ASD, or this Samsung. For some reason the ASD seems to be tagged to enable HDR on Youtube, but that doesn't mean that it can properly display the content.
I’ll agree with you that anything short of HDR1000 is barely worthy of being called HDR so whether you can call it HDR or not is probably pointless even if it meticulously met all the requirements of the HDR600 certification. It’s probably why Apple didn’t bother mentioning it.
 
Man, does that unboxing video make this display look gross. If you thought the Studio Display reviews were bad, can you imagine what people would say if Apple released such a thing? A crummy plastic stand, with a janky attachment in back that wobbles like a bobblehead - low resolution and brightness - a nasty power brick - dongley webcam with detachable plastic bits. Yikes!

I think Apple is right to stay out of the crap display market.
 
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No, it isn't fine, and stop telling people that. It is objectively and factually below the threshold of acceptable for a Mac display, which is why no Apple display ships with such a low pixel density. Facts. Not opinions.

There are people here who don't know any better, and they don't need to be reading your uninformed nonsense.

It actually is an opinion, Apple's opinion, which is not supported by anything other than Apple looking for a marketing advantage. Here are the actual numbers for someone with 20/20 vision:


4k is good up to about 32" sitting on a normal desk. At 32", some people may start to see individual pixels. The reason Apple needs higher PPI is their use of integer scaling. Nothing else. If Apple scaled macOS properly to 4k, there would be no need for 5k at anything under 32" monitor size.
 
Whatever one thinks of this offering..

Apple really should have made the Studio Display work as a standalone Apple TV or at least AirPlay target.
Hell - they have the hardware in there as it is!

Massive miss to not add that great flexibility and added functionality.
 
I’ll agree with you that anything short of HDR1000 is barely worthy of being called HDR so whether you can call it HDR or not is probably pointless even if it meticulously met all the requirements of the HDR600 certification. It’s probably why Apple didn’t bother mentioning it.

That isn't what I said. You don't need to reach 1000 nits of brightness to get a proper HDR experience with most of the actual content that's out there.

A VESA HDR 400 True Black display (ex : LG 27EP950) is quite likely to provide a better HDR experience in interior conditions than a VESA HDR 1000 IPS display that doesn't have enough local dimming zones or a poor algorithm.

It all starts with a good enough contrast ratio (including local to some degree).
 
We don't want a monopoly. We just want people who don't like Apple's stuff to not complain about it when there are competitive options from others. Just buy these monitor instead of demanding Apple to make stuff they want.

If you had your way, we would still be suffering through butterfly keyboards and limited connectivity options. Apple are not infallible and when they make mistakes (like the Studio Display) they deserve to be called out for it, no matter how much it hurts the feelings of those who bought the product.
 
Whatever one thinks of this offering..

Apple really should have made the Studio Display work as a standalone Apple TV or at least AirPlay target.
Hell - they have the hardware in there as it is!

Massive miss to not add that great flexibility and added functionality.
Actually it’s missing a very crucial piece of it: wireless connectivity. Without Internet capability, it can’t be an Apple TV. Without WiFi, it can’t do AirPlay. If Apple were planning this as an upcoming bonus feature, they didn’t put enough hardware in it to do the job. I know iFixit did a tear down, but I don’t recall them indicating there was any wireless hardware included.

I’m pretty sure Apple used the A13 and a subset of iOS just because they’d already done the work of Center Stage, Spatial Audio, etc. in iOS and this was a move to save R&D costs by just using what they’d already done. The 64GB of storage is probably due to re-using existing packaging from the iPhone 11. It probably would have cost Apple more to have less than 64GB due to additional tooling costs.

They should have added it, though.
 
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I think it looks nice but I'd have to see one in person to make up my mind, I find it interesting that it's HDR and 100 nits dimmer than the M1 iMac which isn't HDR. Despite the hyperbole surrounding the studio display I stopped into one of my local stores to have al look at one in person and I was quite impressed with it myself. The webcam didn't blow me away but I never expect a web cam to look all that great.
I'm sure this display would be satisfactory for whomever decided to buy one but to me it is coming off as a budget option.
 
That’s not how UI scaling works. The screen resolution does not change from 5120x2880. It remains a 5K display at 218 dpi. They just double the size of all UI elements to simulate how big text and UI elements are as if the display were 2560x1440 at 27”. Just because you change the UI scaling doesn’t mean the dpi changes. The main reason most users use the scaled resolution of 2560x1440 is because scaling 2x is just perfect scaling. They only have to pixel double without doing fractional scaling. Any scaled UI on the Apple Display is going to look a lot sharper than what you see on a 4K display, especially one at 32” since the 137 dpi is not great.
I get how scaling works. My point was 4k natively on a 32" monitor without scaling is actually a decent resolution for most people. I work on a 5k and 1440p 27" monitors side by side. The 5k is most definitely sharper on text, but 4k at 32" is an improvement over 1440p as far as actual resolution and pixel density. So my point is, that as a consumer device, a 4k 32" monitor is actually a pretty smart choice for a screen even over a 27" 4k monitor. At 27", most people would turn on scaling which would create too large of an interface/ui at the 2x option and fractionally scaling isn't ideal either.

Again, most people seem to forget this is a consumer monitor. I'm not entirely sure what they expect. If anything, complain about apple charging the price for their monitor when just a year ago you could buy an entire iMac with a computer, wireless keyboard and mouse for the same price. Even their refurbished for 1299 with practically the same display shows the markup on their display. Sure you get a better mic/speaker/cam, but you're definitely paying for that. The studio display should have been priced at 1299 or maybe 1399. But that's a different discussion although is relevant to consider for the price of this 4k 32" consumer product with wifi, camera and adjustable stand for $700. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/...290f3439e4f64b292be0b5e6712d3f91c7e9e1693afd8
 
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I get how scaling works. My point was 4k natively on a 32" monitor without scaling is actually a decent resolution for most people. I work on a 5k and 1440p 27" monitors side by side. The 5k is most definitely sharper on text, but 4k at 32" is an improvement over 1440p as far as actual resolution and pixel density. So my point is, that as a consumer device, a 4k 32" monitor is actually a pretty smart choice for a screen even over a 27" 4k monitor. At 27", most people would turn on scaling which would create too large of an interface/ui at the 2x option and fractionally scaling isn't ideal either.

Again, most people seem to forget this is a consumer monitor. I'm not entirely sure what they expect. If anything, complain about apple charging the price for their monitor when just a year ago you could buy an entire iMac with a computer, wireless keyboard and mouse for the same price. Even their refurbished for 1299 with practically the same display shows the markup on their display. Sure you get a better mic/speaker/cam, but you're definitely paying for that. The studio display should have been priced at 1299 or maybe 1399. But that's a different discussion although is relevant to consider for the price of this 4k 32" consumer product with wifi, camera and adjustable stand for $700. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/...290f3439e4f64b292be0b5e6712d3f91c7e9e1693afd8
I agree with what you say here. My comment was directed at the 109 dpi you mentioned when it isn’t 109. That was definitely incorrect. Even scaled, it’s still 218 dpi.
 
WTH is wrong with you people?

This is such a lower standard than the studio.

From lower resolution, lower color grading quality, less connectors, less power delivery.
This seems just like a slightly upgraded samsung M7 (under 400$ monitor), with extra 300$ markup for the blunt copy-pasted apple studio.

And you say that the studio is way too high prices, but you glorify this?
I can't understand some people....

The studio is such a higher quality monitor and of course it will cost a lot. Just making the panels cost a lot of money as they are way higher quality and way harder to produce. And I'm sure apple are raking a lot of profit off them. But I'm sure samsung are raking just as much percentage of profit off selling this copy, maybe even more.
 
I agree with what you say here. My comment was directed at the 109 dpi you mentioned when it isn’t 109. That was definitely incorrect. Even scaled, it’s still 218 dpi.
Yeah, that's a valid correction. I was referencing it more as 109dpi to illustrate the scaled aspect of it even though it is technically still at 218dpi.
 
Than add wireless for the pennies it would cost Apple

You know the point I was getting at
Sure I do, however that would have to come with another rev of the monitor. For those who already own one, it’s just not possible unless you use some weird external dongle that Apple would never do. They would have to completely re-engineer the monitor to add in the WiFi antennas, which would be the hardest part to do. While the parts may not add up to much, the R&D would, especially since the whole chassis is aluminum, which WiFi signals cannot penetrate. They may potentially have to re-tool to remake the chassis. It’s not a trivial task. Yes, the front is glass and maybe the WiFi signal can come that way, but I don’t know how they did it on the iMacs and whether there would be problems if the WiFi signal were unable to penetrate the back of the monitor. I could just see the complaints where if the monitor were oriented in a certain manner, WiFi would disappear.
 
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