If I could get a 27" monitor with it, I would!
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Samsung's iMac-Style 'Smart Monitor M8' With AirPlay Now Available to Pre-Order
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Yours is opinion too. Fact is if you move the screen back, it makes a huge difference. At those distances the default font sizes make much more sense, and it's also easier on the eyes for a lot of people.
Is it ideal for macOS? No. But is it usable for many people? Definitely.
Especially when everyone on here seemed to moan about those very colours! The only main difference visually is no 'chin'... although on the iMac that does obviously serve a function to house components, and is not something I ever had an issue with at all (just would've preferred they kept the Apple logo on it).
That said.... I with they'd have made one is silver/dark grey etc and not just pastels!!!
I'm running Monterey on a 28.2" 4K (3840 × 2560) monitor. No absurd bigness. No pixelation. In Settings the scaled button lets me choose from options that go from "Larger Text" in one direction to "More Space" in the other. I believe what you're saying used to be true in previous iterations of macOS, but Apple has changed it. Now with external monitors Monterey automatically adjusts to give you the best default picture and gives you more scaling options.
Does everyone need the "quality" of a $400 extra height adjustable Apple stand or is the one Samsung included at NO EXTRA COST good enough to adjust the height of your monitor (which to be honest, I do once on my monitor and never touch it again)?
I assure you, a 4k Display is not useless to Mac users.
I am a Mac user and I have my MacBook connected to 2 32" 4k displays. Works GREAT.
Yes, and it sounds like you’re maybe misunderstanding HDR, mainly the “R” part.
The HDR number rating is a scale for a monitor’s darkest to brightest output.
1000 nits doesn’t mean you turn your display up to 1000 nits and burn your face off. It means you have a larger range of brightness to work with. Giving you the ability to more truly match the images coming from higher dynamic range cameras. This is also why you hear terms used in the industry like “peak brightness.”
Even if you have your monitor set at 30% brightness there will be times were certain areas of the display will hit 1000 nits i.e. Sun or explosion shots.
I, too, use a Samsung 27" 4K screen with USB-C (for charging, video and USB 3 hub) and it looks beautiful.
You're stating your opinion, it's not a fact.
Just because Apple don't ship a low-PPI monitor doesn't mean everyone needs to use a high-PPI monitor. There are some people who will prefer a 32" 1080p panel because it helps them see the screen or text better.
I use a 1440p 27" monitor at work connected to my Mac, and it works a treat for my software development job, which is why I'd be perfectly fine with 32" at 4K.
The problem here is you obviously don't like having your opinions challenged. Not all Mac users are like you (thankfully).
Stop discounting and invalidating people and experiences just because they don't live up to your own, or own expectations.
For me it's more about crisper text. I run an effective 1440p resolution/screen estate but still pushing 4K resolution in terms of pixels. However, under macOS, i'd have to use non-integer scaling which hurts performance a bit and makes text a tad bit more blurry. Having more 5K displays available to attach to mac minis, imacs, MBPs enables the ability to maintain sharpness
It depends on the app but yeah, overall it's less likely impacted compared to macOS because of how it scales the entire desktop. That being said, I doubt even windows' tricks can maintain decent sharpness at even 4K if the display gets big enough. (4K 27" looks ok enough for me but 32" at 4K could be different story)
At the end of the day, I guess there's not enough mac users wanting external displays to turn a large enough profit in selling 5K displays.
This looks great.
Samsung today announced it has opened pre-orders for its new Smart Monitor M8, a 32-inch display that offers USB-C charging connectivity, AirPlay support, and several smart TV features built into its distinctively iMac-like design.
The M8 houses a 4K UHD flat LCD panel providing 400 nits of brightness, a 60Hz refresh rate, 99% sRGB, HDR support, and adaptive picture technology that automatically adjust display brightness and color temperature for viewing comfort.
The M8 chassis is 11.4mm thin, which is 0.1mm thinner than Apple's iMac, and it includes a flat back, thin bezels, and a height adjustable stand with tilt functionality. Integrated into the display is Wi-Fi 5 and Bluetooth 4.2 wireless connectivity, one micro HDMI port, and two USB-C ports one of which offers 65W of charging output for a phone and notebook.
Unlike a traditional monitor, the M8 includes a remote control and a built-in SmartThings Hub running Tizen OS that allows it to connect to IoT devices wirelessly. The display also has support for streaming entertainment services including Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Disney+, and Apple TV, without having to connect to a PC or TV.
The display comes with a high-sensitivity Far Field Voice microphone and two 5W speakers built in, along with a removable magnetic 1080p SlimFit webcam featuring Face Tracking and Auto Zoom functions that sound similar to Apple's Center Stage feature.
Priced from $700 depending on the color, the Smart Monitor M8 is available in four "Shades of Nature," including Sunset Pink, Spring Green, Daylight Blue, and Warm White. While Samsung has announced it is taking pre-orders globally, the company has yet to provide shipping dates.
Article Link: Samsung's iMac-Style 'Smart Monitor M8' With AirPlay Now Available to Pre-Order
Maybe I missed it, but I don't see the link to pre-order.
I have a Samsung TV. What ads are your even talking about?
Ah, a 32" display. Nice.
Samsung was listening to the Apple customers shouting for a larger display size than 27".
Well done Samsung - Apple, take some notice here for iMac upgraders and display consumers alike - give us options as 27" is so 2009.
Samsung was listening to the Apple customers shouting for a larger display size than 27".
Well done Samsung - Apple, take some notice here for iMac upgraders and display consumers alike - give us options as 27" is so 2009.
I haven’t parted one out but couldn’t you get a new Mac Mini and buy a 27” 4K monitor? I don’t remember what the max memory or how many graphic cores that the Mac Mini has or how much a decent 4K monitor costs but you can probably stay under $2K (although probably not by much) going that route.
One thing they didn't copy was the Apple tax.
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HaHa, I have an 82" 4K TV and pretty much anyone who comes over gushes about "the incredible picture." I sometimes hook up a Mac to it to display something presentation style and text is nice & readable, graphics look great, etc.
Anyone who reads these kinds of comments and has a 4K TV already, hook your Mac to that TV and have a look. Yes, up close it may not look as great as a dedicated computer monitor. But then imagine jamming all those pixels down into a 40" screen or a 32" screen or even smaller. Now add in the things that make computer monitors better for computer connections than using a 4K or 8K TV screen. All other options are not even close to as bad as some of us are spinning in support of a one "perfect" monitor choice.
Over in AppleTV threads, people passionately argued 1080p was not necessary while AppleTV clung to 720p. Why? Because 1080p was overkill resolution and "no one could see the difference." Later, 4K was not necessary while AppleTV clung to 1080p. Why? Because 4K was overkill resolution and "no one could see the difference." Yesterday, there was a rumor of a 45 Megapixel camera in the next iPhone to presumably shoot 8K video. There's no 8K AppleTV yet and when that comes up, can you guess how it will be ridiculed while Apple clings to a 4K AppleTV? Why? Because 8K is overkill resolution and nobody can see the difference.
Now Apple rolls out a monitor at 5K and 4K is inferior in all ways as is the same 5K screen from LG. To those sticking to this argument, suggest the 8K monitor from Dell and that is useless too because higher resolution than Apple has available for sale now is overkill. Magically, only 1 size of screen and 1 resolution and 1 nits level is perfect... the one and only choice for everyone right now that happens to be the one size for everyone right now too... and everything else used by far more people than the entirety of the Appleverse are apparently looking at blurry, dim, wobbly, junk screens. What are we Apple people again: < 8% or so of the entire computer market?
Think everybody. Think different.
And if in doubt, take your MB to a monitor retailer and hook 'em up to see with your own eyes. Yes, the dirt-cheapies may not look very good but step up into prices like this one to AS range and you'll likely be impressed with many. Bonus, you can get the screen SIZE you really want... and ultra-wide if you want that too.
I would love to see a 250+ ppi 30" screen out there. That would be tough on many machines to drive, but for those who can use it, it would solve the resolution issue. At 250+ ppi for a desktop, scaling to non-native resolutions would be much less problematic. It would look good to most people. As it stands now, 218 ppi doesn't look very good with scaled resolutions.
Unfortunately, a 250+ ppi 30" screen would be hella expensive.
Just to nitpick, a 1440p 27" monitor is native Apple. That is 2.5K, the same as old iMacs, with exactly the same font sizing as 5K iMacs.
In fact, I used to run my 2010 27" 2560x1440p iMac side-by-side with my 2017 27" 5120x2880p iMac. The 2010 was used an external monitor to the 2017. Aside from the text clarity (which obviously was better on the 2017 Retina), everything else looked pretty much exactly the same.
Can you tell which is which?
I'm just an enterprise website developer who knows the screen resolutions and PPI values of dozens of devices off by heart, and have access to an entire suite of monitors for automated testing processes.
But yeah, I'm the uninformed one here.
I wonder if you can remove the power cable on your own, or if you need a special tool to do that. Glad Apple is always thinking of us with their great engineering prowess.
I like the clean look, though I was not all that impressed with the studio display of the bigger more expensive cheese grater model. Of course there is not a whole lot you can do with a monitor, just never get all that excited over the aesthetics. Simple and clean, not distracting with decent specs and without the Apple tax on it please. Watched some reviews on the Studio display and it seems like the LG offering is a better buy, cheaper and basically the same specs. Would be nice if the tech would start to drop in price and start getting things like 120hz as basic speeds.
I like the clean look, though I was not all that impressed with the studio display of the bigger more expensive cheese grater model. Of course there is not a whole lot you can do with a monitor, just never get all that excited over the aesthetics. Simple and clean, not distracting with decent specs and without the Apple tax on it please. Watched some reviews on the Studio display and it seems like the LG offering is a better buy, cheaper and basically the same specs. Would be nice if the tech would start to drop in price and start getting things like 120hz as basic speeds.