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Yeah, but anything other than native resolution or doubled is really fuzzy. Eye strain galore on text.

I've two 32s....if you're running doubled it's too big, and native is just barely big enough with reading glasses. Native on a 27 must be tiny!
Didn't you read what I put? Text isn't remotely fuzzy on my monitor and neither is it tiny.
 
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4K panels are much cheaper, especially since Samsung makes them themselves.
5K panels are much rarer. You can check LG's ultrafine 5K price. Definitely not $700. Apple is not the only one charging a lot of money for 5K.
I get that but who asked for 5K panels when the whole world revolves around 4k anyways ? For pros you have the ultra expensive pro display, so this one should be aimed at prosumers at best, consumers with mac minis looking to replace their LG.

As a consumer, i want the best bang for the buck (that often translates to more features, not the best features), and I'm not ready to spend a kidney for a few added benefits I didn't ask for.

Apple is becoming so good at recycling that it build new products around old products from other categories. Smart move for the company, poor result for the user.
 
I'm just an enterprise website developer who knows the screen resolutions and PPI values of dozens of devices off by heart, and have access to an entire suite of monitors for automated testing processes.

But yeah, I'm the uninformed one here. :rolleyes:
Yes, you are. Just because you think crappy displays are "good enough" does change reality. No Apple displays ships at such low quality. None. There is a reason. That reason is something that buyers of third party displays need to be aware of when making decisions. Your low tolerance for quality helps no one.
 
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Yes, this Samsung display is merely 4K at 400 nits, but...

it has built-in smart TV, has thinner bezel, comes standard with height adjustable stand, can also charge laptops and most importantly, is priced reasonably. Studio Display with the height adjustable stand is 2.85x more expensive ($1999 vs $700) and can't be used independently.

Competition is good. :)
 
32" and 4K ?

For $700 at 4K I want: 500 nits (min) and downsizing to 21", oh wait, that was done in 2016 by LG

Nevermind...I just picked up the LG 22MD4KA for $275 in pristine (used) condition.
 
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You're stating your opinion, it's not a fact.

Just because Apple don't ship a low-PPI monitor doesn't mean everyone needs to use a high-PPI monitor. There are some people who will prefer a 32" 1080p panel because it helps them see the screen or text better.

I use a 1440p 27" monitor at work connected to my Mac, and it works a treat for my software development job, which is why I'd be perfectly fine with 32" at 4K.

The problem here is you obviously don't like having your opinions challenged. Not all Mac users are like you (thankfully).

Stop discounting and invalidating people and experiences just because they don't live up to your own, or own expectations.
"Some people like crap" is not an opinion, and doesn't invalidate the FACTS that I posted.
 
Yeah, for an average-user monitor it’s nice and a clever idea (apps, AirPlay).
For professional grade unserer with content creation, it’s a less usable.
Then it depends on you: do I see the difference between my 3000$/€ MacBook Pro display (120Hz, ProMotions, 100%P3, high nits) vs this.
I fear they both together would not end satisfying for the demanding user.
 
400 nits = Not really HDR.
HDR is a range (think contrast ratio), not a fixed value where the one who's gets the highest wins. Brighter is better, but that doesn't mean it's not HDR capable if a bit less bright.

If I remember correctly, I have an iPad 10.5 that is capable of HDR with a contrast ratio of 1600:1. If I look a this M8, it has 3000:1, so almost twice...

If it was OK for Apple back then to call it HDR capable, and I admit it is no way as good as an OLED, why shouldn't Samsung say their M8 is HDR capable ?
 
Yes, you are. Just because you think crappy displays are "good enough" does change reality. No Apple displays ships at such low quality. None. There is a reason. That reason is something that buyers of third party displays need to be aware of when making decisions. Your low tolerance for quality helps no one.
See, you're totally missing the point. Not everyone wants or needs the highest quality possible. If you want to strive for perfection every time, that's cool, you do you. But you cannot discount that people have different needs or wants from you. And there is no reason why people can't buy this Samsung monitor and be totally happy with it.

What's the point in me buying a 5K display for a colleague who works from home, just uses the internet, and writes Word documents? Answer: none at all, a 24" 1080p monitor will do them fine, maybe 27" 1440p one if I get the budget.

If I was buying a monitor for a graphic designer, sure, I might look to get a higher quality monitor for them, because their job dictates it.

Again, you are completely and totally missing the point about how not everyone who uses a Mac (or any computer regardless of its operating system) wants or needs the highest quality display every time. Sure, it would be nice, but not everyone needs it.
 
I get that but who asked for 5K panels when the whole world revolves around 4k anyways ? For pros you have the ultra expensive pro display, so this one should be aimed at prosumers at best, consumers with mac minis looking to replace their LG.

As a consumer, i want the best bang for the buck (that often translates to more features, not the best features), and I'm not ready to spend a kidney for a few added benefits I didn't ask for.

Apple is becoming so good at recycling that it build new products around old products from other categories. Smart move for the company, poor result for the user.
Errr, I'm not saying who should get 4K or 5K. I simply said that Apple's pricing is in line with the 5K panel it offers. That's it. If you think 4K is fine, plenty of great 3rd party 4K displays out there in the market that you shouldn't even be looking at the Studio Display.
Apple Studio Display is not aimed at lay consumers. Apple expects lay consumers to buy the 24" iMac instead.

I don't think people with $500 mac minis use $1500 LG monitors. I could be wrong.
 
I am writing this on a MBP with a 14" screen which is Retina 254 pixels per inch. Mini LED backlight. Variable refresh rate up to 120 Hz. Now. Why on earth can't there be a screen a tad bigger, standalone, which has all of the above is beyond me. Retina could even mean less PPI because I would be watching it from further away.
After buying my MBP I cannot stand external screens anymore because none has a quality, at least for me, matching my internal screen. If there was one I would probably buy it, mostly for office use where quality and real estate are more welcome (architect doing CAD design and PS retouch of stuff). So yes, competition is more than welcome, but I'd like it to be more on the same league as the new MPB screens rather than the "old" iMac screens. I guess I'll have to wait and see and, in the meantime, this screen still is the best I've ever looked at. And it is 14"...
 
Suppose Apple would have upped this to $999, with 600 nits, 5K Airplay, 32", HDR, 95w charging, HEIGHT ADJUSTABLE. That would have been reasonable on top of Samsung's offering. Not $1999 at 27", no HDR, no height adjustment, no Airplay... even though there's a full iPad built in...
 
Smart TVs, and I would assume smart monitors, track everything that appears on them to be sold as data. This is why smart tvs are so cheap... you are the product, not the tv.
 
FYI the white version is $699 on the Samsung EPP site, the other colors are $729.

I got this message after inputing my email to "reserve" one, doesn't really fell like a pre-order:

Thank you for reserving the 32" M8 Smart Monitor. Watch for an email to complete your preorder and access your exclusive Samsung.com offer.

 
I would have considered this, but after looking at more photos from Samsung's website it's a pass from me. From the front, it looks fine. But the back of it makes it look like a toy. Its plastic-y, striped, and (if you get a non-white one) the stands and back don't match.

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This looks like it was designed for Instagram, TikTok, and Pinterest setups.
 
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Does everyone need the "quality" of a $400 extra height adjustable Apple stand or is the one Samsung included at NO EXTRA COST good enough to adjust the height of your monitor (which to be honest, I do once on my monitor and never touch it again)?
Again tired of people whining - if this is good enough for you - great! Pre-order it but why whine about what Apple could’ve or should’ve done.
Yes, this Samsung display is merely 4K at 400 nits, but...

it has built-in smart TV, has thinner bezel, comes standard with height adjustable stand, can also charge laptops and most importantly, is priced reasonably. Studio Display with the height adjustable stand is 2.85x more expensive ($1999 vs $700) and can't be used independently.

Competition is good. :)
The fact that you think this is competition is why the monitor market is overly saturated with poor quality displays. And this is coming from someone who works in CE sales so I get to see displays from Acer, Dell, HP, LG and Samsung on a daily basis and many customers will say (even on those) this $99 FHD is just fine for me - why does LG markup that 4K one so much? I’m not watching movies on it or anything!
 
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