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Samsung's 'Infringe First and Stall as Long as Possible' Strategies Are Nothing New
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I'm pretty sure the Big Little design was out on the market at least a year before the M7 arrived. And hell, what's so inefficient about the Exynos chips anyway? I just looked up some benchmarks for it, and it seems pretty alright to me. Faster than Tegras, not quite as fast as Snapdragons, and battery life on the middle-high end of the spectrum. It won't set the world on fire with it's record beating awesomeness, but it's not a terrible waste of space, either.
love how we all forgetting that Apple was also found guilty in the same trial
I love that you're so happy.
I will never buy another SamSung end item product again (TV, Monitor, electronics, etc.). I realize that companies like Apple still use components from SamSung so I cannot stop ALL my money from going to SamSung, but I will avoid them whenever possible.
Well then that's a difference between you and I: You lack ethics. If the only thing you care about is the end product, then I pity you. There is much more to life then having fancy toys. A man is not defined by what he owns but by the life he leads.
I imagine you would not like it if someone in your town stole from you to create something great that makes them lots if money. You shouldn't obstruct him from accomplishing his goal. Don't file a police report for any goods stolen. It's all about his success because he took the initiative to steal from you to make something better. As a matter of fact, I think all corporations should start stealing from private citizens if it makes them more profits. We should also remove all environmental protections, and allow testing not only on animals but prisoners, children, and the mentally ill. It's all about the end product, right? So let's damn all the consequences of our actions and only focus on increasing corporate profits through superior products. Fantastic idea! Cheers for that.
Some of you millennials. Good grief.
It's obvious they took the design and reworked it. If you can't see the iPhone/iPad "inspiration" you're just trolling. Which is par for the course here.
Ironic that you should say that, since Apple hired away Samsung's Chief ARM designer to work on their chips.
Not even close.
A known fair judge offered to decide on a FRAND rate for Motorola's patents. Apple instead said they'd only agree if the rate was $1 or less per device. This angered the judge so much, she threw out the case with prejudice.
The ITC also ruled that Apple had avoided trying to make a fair deal, and had not even attempted any arbitration as the ETSI FRAND contract states.
As far as political and business corruption, I see a lot of that here in New Jersey. And it hasn't been facing total war for the past 50 years, and a need to build its economy or perish.
I served as a Sergeant on the DMZ in Korea in the mid 70s. At the same time that those of us in uniform were still being given the finger by spoiled brats in the US, the poor farmers in South Korea would take time to invite us inside for dinner, in repayment of their gratitude to the US for intervening in the Korean War decades earlier.
Most Koreans still admire the US. It's not that different a situation from how Japan and Italy and others tried to emulate the US and its products for decades after WW-II... only there's been less time and money involved with Korea to make their own way.
That will change over time, just as it has with other countries. I also think that America can innovate just fine without needing to stop to sue everyone, especially over IP that's not that original to start with.
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Why create a new technology? Because it can make a corporation billions, as it has for Apple. I don't own an Android phone, but I know millions of people do and really enjoy them. Again, the consumer wins here.
Samsung doesn't care. That has ways been their goal is to copy popular products but offer them as a cheaper alternative. Kind of like the cheap bags of cereal that mimic the big name brands. Why by the expensive big name brands when you can save some money and buy the generic that taste virtually the same?
Why do think Samsung became so popular? Because they mimicked the iPhones look and experience and sold it for a price more people could afford. Then they fooled the consumer by flooding the market with advertising stating their products where "the next best thing" insinuating they were the ones who invented it all. Then crammed in a bunch of useless features most people don't use to further fool the consumer that they were getting more for their money and being "innovative".
Sadly people have been believing Samsung's BS because they don't know the true story and too lazy see the truth. So yes, Samsung is a major competitor to Apple now due to their copycat ways. Before Apples first iPhone, Samsung was copying Blackberry's phone designs. Anyone remember the Blackjack and Blackjack II? Blackberry was the popular phones back then.
The only way to stop Samsung is for the consumer to educate themselves on what a crap company they are and stop buying their merchandise!!
Why do think Samsung became so popular? Because they mimicked the iPhones look and experience and sold it for a price more people could afford. Then they fooled the consumer by flooding the market with advertising stating their products where "the next best thing" insinuating they were the ones who invented it all. Then crammed in a bunch of useless features most people don't use to further fool the consumer that they were getting more for their money and being "innovative".
Sadly people have been believing Samsung's BS because they don't know the true story and too lazy see the truth. So yes, Samsung is a major competitor to Apple now due to their copycat ways. Before Apples first iPhone, Samsung was copying Blackberry's phone designs. Anyone remember the Blackjack and Blackjack II? Blackberry was the popular phones back then.
The only way to stop Samsung is for the consumer to educate themselves on what a crap company they are and stop buying their merchandise!!
It appears that most of the people in this thread haven't even read the article.
All these comparisons between Apple and Samsung are silly because once you learn about Samsung's history, you start to realize that Apple is not even remotely comparable. I don't care how much someone might dislike and criticize Apple; the fact is that Samsung's slimy behaviour is on a whole different level.
For example:
All these comparisons between Apple and Samsung are silly because once you learn about Samsung's history, you start to realize that Apple is not even remotely comparable. I don't care how much someone might dislike and criticize Apple; the fact is that Samsung's slimy behaviour is on a whole different level.
For example:
I guess any article that disparages Apple is fine, but one that calls out Sammy with evidence to back up what everyone already knew was true is biased and hateful. Lol. Wow!!!!!
MMS had existed for years before the iPhone or Android ever had it. Kinda confused with the whole argument around MMS, it never was, or has gone anywhere. I think it just matured?
Please note I said "big corporations" ripping each other off, not individuals and not small startups either. I'm not going to shed a tear when a multibillion dollar corporation copies another multibillion dollar corporation. Besides, Steve Jobs himself condoned it. Funny he cried foul when it happened to them.
What about when Apple regularly rips off ideas from the jailbreak community? Is that alright too? What about this:
http://m.softpedia.com/apple-rejects-ads-tube-app-reportedly-steals-idea-launches-iad-gallery-193549.html
Or this?:
http://mashable.com/2012/09/20/swiss-federal-railways-clock/
Or these?:
http://m.fastcodesign.com/1672799/5-ideas-apple-gleefully-stole-from-google-twitter-and-microsoft
Or these?:
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-ios-5-copied-android-2012-5?tru=JdDy4#notifications-appear-at-a-bar-at-the-top-1
I can go all day.
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The same way Microsoft got away with the same thing in the 80's and 90's. Money later makes right now. You have to credit that Steve Jobs essentially
Called out this would happen right on stage when he announced the iPhone for the very first time.
This is why Steve wanted the nuclear option. Steve wanted the import ban, a total lockout of cheaters after going through the courts... It's taken 5+ years and Steve is long dead... Tim Cook needs to understand that and push his advantage now. Apple has their boot on Samsung necks.. They HAVE to step hard and not waiver. You have to remember, Wall Street itself glorifies this behavior from companies... They propped up IBM, Microsoft, Compaq... They love infringers that cheat the system and put money in Wall Street pockets. It's almost impossible for companies focused on innovation over stock price to profit... Apple very nearly died except Microsoft needed a corpse for "competition".
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The article is written with that bias. It's not objective. It's what makes it perfect for this thread. It will probably be cited for years to come because it's like a group of "us" here assembled every little thing we could scrounge up to support the bias. Can you read the article to see "fair & balanced" reporting? Do we really want to put Vanity Fair up on an objective reporting pedestal? Vanity Fair?
Had another author gone to similar trouble to paint the picture the other way, "we" would bash his person, job, Vanity Fair, his family, his dog and anything else to which we could connect him… much like how the analysts are quoted and referenced when they say something good about Apple but bashed and deemed worthless when they say something bad.
Apple lost money they would have other wise made. As said in the op a company went bankrupt because of it, why should i spend money and time if someone else will copy it and i don't make any of it back?
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You can't patent an idea, only an implementation of said idea. Also i doubt those had patents anyway.
I think the Apple M7 is much more like the standalone sensor processor that Motorola had put in the Moto X to watch for gestures and listen for commands.
Something that Samsung did do first with CPUs, was to enable a secure enclave back with the Exynos based Galaxy S3.
They later used it to implement the security in their NSA derived Knox kernel.
Why isn't it objective? What makes it biased? You're just trying to disparage it because you don't like what it shows. Kurt Eichenwald is a well respected investigative reporter, so unless you you have evidence to support your assertion, you're not providing any reason to doubt the article's validity. Yelling "bias" is not an argument.
