The specs doesn't matter, really. Its the end user experience. Its like those Intel PC fanboys harping over how they spend tens of billions on the best fabbing process with performance only ~5% better than the last gen only for the chips to end up in creaky, plasticky bargain basement laptops with no SSD, lousy 720p TN LCDs, lousy keyboards/trackpads and the abortion of an OS called Win8 for the vast majority of the market...These people just don't get it.
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The specs doesn't matter, really. Its the end user experience. Its like those Intel PC fanboys harping over how they spend tens of billions on the best fabbing process with performance only ~5% better than the last gen only for the chips to end up in creaky, plasticky bargain basement laptops with no SSD, lousy 720p TN LCDs, lousy keyboards/trackpads and the abortion of an OS called Win8 for the vast majority of the market...These people just don't get it.
I'm not speaking for anyone. Look at Samsung's numbers. That's what this article is about and where my comments are directed.
Their flagship phone sales are drying up because people of all types can see they just aren't worth the premium. Simple as that.
It's always that "technically impressive, but almost irrelevant to end user" arguments that cracks me up as a tech nerd. I'm sure Apple would have sold 2x more phones if it had 2x more megapixels!
"Middle-end"?
Really? Surely if it's an end, it can't be in the middle.
I think the phrase you were looking for is "mid-range".
Really? Surely if it's an end, it can't be in the middle.
I think the phrase you were looking for is "mid-range".
Why is this big news Samsung is the biggest company in the world as we all saw that you tube video.
This made me laugh. You basically said it when you said "It doesn't matter", basically agreeing that it is a useless gimmick that will die off soon. Go back to your Samsung forums.
Dude, I use an iPhone 6+ as my main phone and I like it a lot, but the new S6 is a really nice phone and a dramatic departure from the less than great Galaxies of the past. It also has a much more premium design and build.
Android has come a long way in the past year and a half, while iOS was a bit stagnant and I can make a good argument that today Android is in many ways a better OS than iOS.
I went back to the iPhone 6+ as my daily driver mainly because of the awesome camera and very good FPS, but the new S6 has a camera which is even better than the 6+ camera.
If you don't believe me, see the new DXOMARK review here: http://www.dxomark.com/Phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S6-Edge-review-Top-ranking-Smartphone-has-the-Edge
The FPS has been vastly improved, too.
The S6 is Samsung's first truly premium phone and I would expect them to sell well and to make money. Good for them, I like competition.
But watch out for the Chinese coming out strong in the next year or two, with truly premium and innovative phones. Some of the "firsts" they are bringing this year are supposedly fast retina recognition, which will resolve some of the security issues with FPS.
I am actually waiting for the LeTV Max, which at least on paper looks like a phone which can trounce both the S6 and the 6+ and it has the looks to do it.
The world is a fast moving place
Does saying "We shipped the most things" really give Samsung market dominance?
Sure... it makes a nice headline... but there's not much of a story after that.
This isn't the first time Samsung "shipped the most things" anyway. They've been the best selling smartphone OEM nearly every quarter over the past few years. They sell a lot of units for sure.
But it hasn't prevented them from having declining profits over that same time period.
Maybe I need to be reminded of what "market dominance" means. Or at least what Samsung thinks it means.
Dude, I use an iPhone 6+ as my main phone and I like it a lot, but the new S6 is a really nice phone and a dramatic departure from the less than great Galaxies of the past. It also has a much more premium design and build.
Android has come a long way in the past year and a half, while iOS was a bit stagnant and I can make a good argument that today Android is in many ways a better OS than iOS.
I went back to the iPhone 6+ as my daily driver mainly because of the awesome camera and very good FPS, but the new S6 has a camera which is even better than the 6+ camera.
If you don't believe me, see the new DXOMARK review here: http://www.dxomark.com/Phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S6-Edge-review-Top-ranking-Smartphone-has-the-Edge
The FPS has been vastly improved, too.
The S6 is Samsung's first truly premium phone and I would expect them to sell well and to make money. Good for them, I like competition.
But watch out for the Chinese coming out strong in the next year or two, with truly premium and innovative phones. Some of the "firsts" they are bringing this year are supposedly fast retina recognition, which will resolve some of the security issues with FPS.
I am actually waiting for the LeTV Max, which at least on paper looks like a phone which can trounce both the S6 and the 6+ and it has the looks to do it.
The world is a fast moving place
I'd argue IOS/iPhone has not been "stagnent" for the last year and a half. personally I'm surprised how many 8.x releases there have been for iOS8 with actual new features being added and services.
I think you are right, the S6 and S6 Edge will probably sell pretty well, but frankly Samsung lost it's biggest selling point over iPhones "bigger screen".
Pretty obvious turn of events. Despite the fact that some people want to insist that the only reasons people choose Android are because they either don't know better, can't afford an iPhone, etc - the fact is (was) screen size was a pretty clear advantage Android phones had.
It should therefor be no surprise that when Apple released a larger phone that competed with the size(s) of larger Android options, that they would claim/reclaim customers.
Ultimately, both Apple and Samsung are doing well "enough" to stay in the game. Apple, clearly. And Samsung has deep pockets. They aren't going anywhere.
It should therefor be no surprise that when Apple released a larger phone that competed with the size(s) of larger Android options, that they would claim/reclaim customers.
Ultimately, both Apple and Samsung are doing well "enough" to stay in the game. Apple, clearly. And Samsung has deep pockets. They aren't going anywhere.
The only reason some people on this site adore Samsung is because they're the closest thing available to an anti-Apple. These people hate Apple more than they actually like Samsung, so they latch on to whatever Samsung is selling at the time as a way of practicing their hatred.
HTC and LG are still making better phones, even if the Galaxy S6 has helped Samsung catch up a bit. I don't know why someone would choose a Galaxy S6 over a G4 or M9.
HTC and LG are still making better phones, even if the Galaxy S6 has helped Samsung catch up a bit. I don't know why someone would choose a Galaxy S6 over a G4 or M9.
The irony being if it wasn't for Samsung, we likely would still have a 3.5 inch screen on the iPhone
Innovation is hardly ever perfect the first time around. Development makes things better. That's what I meant by "doesn't matter" but you probably think that anything apple does is innovative.
Dude, I use an iPhone 6+ as my main phone and I like it a lot, but the new S6 is a really nice phone and a dramatic departure from the less than great Galaxies of the past. It also has a much more premium design and build.
Android has come a long way in the past year and a half, while iOS was a bit stagnant and I can make a good argument that today Android is in many ways a better OS than iOS.
I went back to the iPhone 6+ as my daily driver mainly because of the awesome camera and very good FPS, but the new S6 has a camera which is even better than the 6+ camera.
If you don't believe me, see the new DXOMARK review here: http://www.dxomark.com/Phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S6-Edge-review-Top-ranking-Smartphone-has-the-Edge
The FPS has been vastly improved, too.
The S6 is Samsung's first truly premium phone and I would expect them to sell well and to make money. Good for them, I like competition.
But watch out for the Chinese coming out strong in the next year or two, with truly premium and innovative phones. Some of the "firsts" they are bringing this year are supposedly fast retina recognition, which will resolve some of the security issues with FPS.
I am actually waiting for the LeTV Max, which at least on paper looks like a phone which can trounce both the S6 and the 6+ and it has the looks to do it.
The world is a fast moving place
Here is the thing...You can cherrypick benchmarks all you want but that aint relevant to anybody who isn't a tech junkie. And its not like you have to buy high end Samsung for a good android experience.
I am Note 3 user BTW.
But you can copy NFC support and very large mobile screens. Shame on Samsung for slavishly ripping off the iPhone 6 Plus.
No, I adore Samsung for making quality products. I like Apple more than Samsung too. And HTC and LG make darn good phones. I've thought HTC has ripped off Apple far more than Samsung at times, and then outright leapfrogged them at times and released sexier products, but to each their own. Apparently one can't like mass produced corporate products without hating someone else.
As someone above said, if no Samsung, we'd probably be stuck with 3.5" iPhones.
I think Samsung makes quality products, but their phones and tablets are not among them, at least in my opinion. But I respect that others feel differently. That said, I definitely give Samsung credit for making the first successful large-screened smartphones. Others tried before them, but Samsung did it better.
Based on your logic, the iPhone wasn't innovative. The iPhone was just an iPod touch with a 2G cellular radio - and later a 3G and then 4G radio.
Of course. Apple and Samsung will be around for the rest of our lives. And maybe a few others too.
But I wonder how there can be another 50 smartphone manufacturers who make ZERO dollars in a quarter. That doesn't seem sustainable.
I remember the PC market when I was younger. There were 60 or 70 PC manufacturers back then.
Now there are 10... due to the others either going out of business completely or being gobbled up by someone else.
Companies really do need to make money to stay alive.
Well, besides the first iPhone releasing a few months before the first gen iPod touch, sure.