That's an interesting point, I did notice that the S6 and the Edge are higher than some of the past phones. Whether that will deter people, idk.
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That's an interesting point, I did notice that the S6 and the Edge are higher than some of the past phones. Whether that will deter people, idk.
This was Samsung mobile market before the iPhone arrived and they started the highend Galaxy series. So actually they tried to change that.
I think part of the reason people are in love with the S6 is that Samsung finally made a premium looking and feeling phone. There are many reason to choose the S6 over an M9 because the M9 has been an overall disappointment of a phone. Versus the G4, that is up to debate, but the "butt seam" vs the build quality of the S6 doesn't help LG. I'm more of a Motorola fan myself, and I really dislike most of the OEM skins (Sense is my favorite); so I went with a Motorola for the OS and the nice build quality. However, come this fall, I will most likely be switching to an iPhone for the first time ever.
Speaking of Samsung doing big screens the best, I think HTC was the first OEM that did big screens best back in the days of the HTC Evo with it's "massive" 4.3" screen. HTC was the king of Android phones back then. Samsung took the large screen idea and ran with it, then turned it into the Note series.
Ain't surprising. Even when talking strictly about existing Samsung users, Lollipop was awesome on S4/5 and Note 3/4 which solved their Achilles heel: Software. So why would those users give them up to buy yet another Samsung device that delivers next to nothing in the real world or even a net negative with the battery and microSD cut out at iPhone prices?
It doesn't really matter for Samsung. If people buy more iphones, Samsung is making profit either way by making the CPUs/chips for the device. Yes, the profit is not the same as making an entire device, but Samsung is still one of the main suppliers for Apple's products. In addition, Samsung is just a monster by itself in electronics overall, while Apple is more on the tech side only.
A larger iPhone seem to have been a good idea after all . I know a number of people that switched due to that
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Samsung copied apple on that one, i believe apple at this stage does not need this type of advertising, the iPhone launches speak for themselves. They have the most desirable phone .
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Samsung copied apple on that one, i believe apple at this stage does not need this type of advertising, the iPhone launches speak for themselves. They have the most desirable phone .
Huh?! Did you read what I said, or is it just poor reading comprehension?
I like the iPhone 6+. A lot.
I was simply trying to bring a bit of balance to the trashing of what is an impressive phone by Samsung. Some people are just a bit too passionate about a piece of electronics, I guess.
All I am saying is the the Samsung S6 is also a great product and that Samsung has finally made a really good phone. In some aspects, like the camera, it is better than the iPhone 6+.
I doesn't mean that I "hate" my iPhone 6+ at all. It simply means that new products come along and some are bound to be better.
Geez! Is the 6+ your prized possession or something?
I always assume Samsung loses money with their mobile unit. But that mobile unit is just a small hobby for Samsung. That gigantic company has other divisions that bring in more profit than the handset ever could. I think they treat the mobile division as a marketing campaign for their overall brand.
I don't think that was the case at all in the Galaxy heydays (they did make a hell of a lot of profits for them), but could be the case now unless the S6 turns it around for them. Considering they sell 52 types of phones, I'd say they put a lot manufacturing effort in that little hobby. A hobby is something like the AppleTV, not Samsung's mobile business in the last few years.
You should look at the numbers, which are actually available. For example:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...sees-samsung-mobile-profits-plunge-57-percent
http://www.eweek.com/mobile/samsungs-q1-2015-net-profit-down-39-percent-from-q1-2014.html
which shows that while overall profits dropped by 39% from Q1 2014, mobile profit dropped by 57%. It's still a substantial part of the company, close to 50% of the profits, and the profits they are not making in mobile pull the whole company down. Mobile revenue is 53% of the whole company revenue, down from 58% in Q1 2014.
Question:
I know there's the big-daddy Samsung Corporation... and then there are many subsidiaries beneath it.
Samsung Electronics is one of those subsidiaries.
And I'm assuming the "Mobile Division" is inside of Samsung Electronics.
So can a division report its own profits and losses? Or are they talking Samsung Electronics?
I only ask because these articles are all using different terms for what I'm guessing is the same news story:
MacRumors - "Samsung Electronics"
Inquirer - "Mobile Division"
eWeek - "Samsung"
I think Touch ID and Force Touch are innovative technologies. They actually work (the first time implemented) and have an obvious use in daily functionality of the phone and watch. People don't buy the S6 Edge for the functionality of the screen edges. They buy it because of the overall design that the curve contributes to. Other than that, it's basically useless.
Blind assumptions about people you don't know will get you nowhere in life, kiddo.
If their profit fell further and if Apple decided to buy Samsung, shut it down completely (other than the portion of the company that makes the A series chips for iOS devices).. What would happen to the market?
I know this is so unlikely it's hardly worth mentioning. But wth no Samsung phones at all would more people buy iPhones? Or would another OEM rise up and take Samsung's place as dominant in the Android world?
I know this is so unlikely it's hardly worth mentioning. But wth no Samsung phones at all would more people buy iPhones? Or would another OEM rise up and take Samsung's place as dominant in the Android world?
There were 350 million smartphones shipped last quarter with 80 million from Samsung and 60 million from Apple.
That leaves 210 million smartphones from the other smartphone makers.
Yes... other companies would step up if Samsung suddenly disappeared.
But I'd also like to challenge the notion of Samsung's "dominance"
Yes... Samsung is the largest Android manufacturer. But they're not the only Android manufacturer.
Like I said before... Samsung shipped 80 million Android smartphones last quarter.
But there were over 200 million non-Samsung Android smartphones last quarter.
So what exactly is Samsung "dominating" in? They obviously don't have the monopoly on Android phones. Tizen hasn't taken off either... nor have their attempts with their own app store, music store, etc.
Samsung is big... sure... but they're just another Android hardware vendor.
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I've never understood the fanboys way of thinking. I usually buy the product that fits me the best, regardless of brand. Actually I couldn't care less about brands. I have a S6, it's miles better than my previous Iphones, and it still would be even if IKEA made it. Apple has two subpar products this generation, maybe iOS weighs up for the worse hardware for some, for me it certainly didn't.
Right... Why I need to about your brand if you don't care for brands.
If you lived by your own words, you wouldn't mention it...
And why this need to mention supposed superiority?
By what measure? Unless you're a spec jockey, I don't see it.
Did you put IOS on it?
Cause I'm sure it can't be because its running that dog called Lollipop.
Next, time don't be Ironic in your comment and keep it to yourself...
Might be true for small businesses but certainly not the only thing that matters in retail. Revenue (related to profit) is one of the holy trinity of any successful retail business: Volume, Market Share, and Revenue.
Higher revenue and dropping market share is never a good thing.
Some organization had major lay off sessions because their revenue increased by 10% in the time market volume increased by 15%; that 5% went to someone else.
That said, one would argue that Samsung can boast higher market share and maybe even volume but dropping revenue, which again is not a good thing.
I am no Samsung fan, as a matter of fact I think I am an Apple Fanboy. Still most of the comments here are missing the point. Samsung has a very different model than Apple. Samsung has the model of Kia, sell lots of cheap product with smaller margins, but make it up in volume. Apple has the model of Porsche, make the best possible car, sell them at a higher price with a higher margin and therefore not have to make it up in volume.
Both of these models have been around for ever and both are successful. Samsung isn't losing money. It still turned a profit. What they are suffering from is comoditization. At the lowend and even in the middle tier, they cannot seperate themselves on the software since they and all their competitors have the same software - Android. so they will continue to compete on feature and price. In the PC market this worked it self out to where you now only have a few big players making profits on small margins -- HP, DELL, Lenovo.
Apple has never understood how to play in the low or mid tier and I dont think they are every going to try. Therefore comparing them on volume, seems silly to me.
Both of these models have been around for ever and both are successful. Samsung isn't losing money. It still turned a profit. What they are suffering from is comoditization. At the lowend and even in the middle tier, they cannot seperate themselves on the software since they and all their competitors have the same software - Android. so they will continue to compete on feature and price. In the PC market this worked it self out to where you now only have a few big players making profits on small margins -- HP, DELL, Lenovo.
Apple has never understood how to play in the low or mid tier and I dont think they are every going to try. Therefore comparing them on volume, seems silly to me.