Great. Sure. Products change. Brands die out. Hope you are happy when you get away. That’s all that matters.
I’m happy here. And will stay at least for the next 4-5 years, probably longer.
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Samsung's New Galaxy S10+ vs. Apple's iPhone XS Max
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I’m happy here. And will stay at least for the next 4-5 years, probably longer.
Yep, that’s true. Brands die out. Maybe we hate to see this happening from a once beloved brand. But the signs have never been that obvious.
Many.
my relative/friend/office places, to show off photos/videos. Can't do that with iPhone.
You are correct about the display components. Mainly because Apple buys most of their displays from Samsung. I have family members with both Samsung phones and iphones. I have replaced dozens of iPhone screens for friends and family beginning with the iPhone 3G yet I have not had one Samsung user bring me a shattered screen to fix.
TheVerge also had this to say.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/1/1...lus-android-phone-review-price-specs-features
"The other new thing that’s embedded in the screen is the fingerprint scanner, which has been moved from the back of the phone. The S10’s scanner is ultrasonic, which is supposed to be more reliable and harder to spoof than the optical in-screen fingerprint scanners we’ve seen on the OnePlus 6T and other phones. It even works if your finger is wet.
But it’s not as fast or reliable as the traditional, capacitive fingerprint scanner on the back of the S9. The target area for the reader is rather small (though the lockscreen will show you a diagram of where to place your finger) and I had to be very deliberate with my finger placement to get it to work.
Even then, I often had to try more than once before the S10 would unlock. I’d just rather have a Face ID system that requires less work to use, or at the very least, an old-school fingerprint scanner on the back of the phone. The S10 does have a face unlock feature, but it’s just using the camera to look for your face and compare it to a previous image — there’s no 3D mapping or anything. I was actually able to unlock the S10 with a video of my face played on another phone.
Samsung says it developed the ultrasonic scanner because feedback from customers said they wanted the fingerprint reader on the front of the phone, and this design allowed for more screen real estate than placing a capacitive sensor in a bezel below the screen. The S10 also lacks the iris scanning login option of older Galaxy models, which would have required more sensors than the new hole-punch screen design has room for. The company told me that it will continually adjust and optimize the face scanner’s performance leading up to the S10’s availability.
But here’s my feedback to Samsung: go copy Apple’s Face ID system. It’s far easier and more reliable to use than the S10’s nifty-looking but ultimately disappointing in-screen fingerprint scanner."
I think once the device is in the hands of more users and they have had time to put it through its paces, reality will set in, and then you realise the S10 isn't all that this forum is evidently hyping it up to be.
I actually like this. Would welcome the fingerprint technology in the next iPhone as faceID is garbage (getting fed up of having to shove my face in the right place when the device is laying flat)
i just do airdrop. they keep the file.Many.
my relative/friend/office places, to show off photos/videos. Can't do that with iPhone.
my office has apple tv on a large display (not a tv). works fine. but i can see why its an issue for u.
On the contrary, as more people will get these phones, petty complains like the one from The Verge reporter will become irrelevant background noise.
On and I also heard that Samsung will implement an always on fingerprint icon on the lock screen(so it will appear together with the Always On Display).
Or the the more likely outcome is the s10 might actually be an awesome device. I've seen enough reviews from reputable you tubers to know the fps works great as they actually show themselves using it in the video. I don't trust reviews from sites like the verge as they tend to have bias reviews one way or the other.
I think what will likely end up happening is that Apple trades one user base for another (more lucrative) user base. The way I see it, Apple is transitioning from mobile to wearables, and in the process, de-prioritising their Mac line because there really isn't much link to wearables.
So for every one less Mac user who decides to defect, Apple will gain many more iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch and AirPods customers.
I have always been amused by this "Company X has lost their way simply because it is no longer making products that I want" mentality, as though the complainers are somehow the only people who matter. Apple, like any other company, is free to sell whatever they want, as as you consumers are free to vote with your wallets. Life goes on, the sun still rises in the east, the earth continues to spin on its axis, and all that.
So I do believe that Apple will go on to become even more prosperous in the future. However, that will come at the expense of some of their traditional product lines, which will in turn anger the old guard even more. As such, the louder the people here in this forum complain, the more I know Apple is on the right path, and the more successful Apple will be.
So you agree with me here that it’s very hypocritical of Apple that saying the Mac is very important to them and keep promising great future Mac products and not delivering?
I don’t trust companies saying one thing and doing the other. So I don’t trust their privacy statements either. All marketing phrases and it’s the only thing left to stand above the crowd.
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The starting prices (before Apple slashed prices due to poor sales) were $100 more for the XS Max vs the S10+. However, you can get the S10+ with the smallest storage capacity because they can use an SD card to add more. Apple won't do that because, well it's Apple.
You can't airdrop to non apple devices.
Usually during get together on the spot viewing. People are not interested to download 1gb video file to view on their phone small screen
They sell more units than Apple so they must be doing something right while iphone sales have been on a steady decline. Wireless headphones are great, until they are dead and you now have no alternative.
At the published retail price usually there are a few freebies like buds, wireless charger etc. 1 month in, Samsung will drop the freebies and price will come down by $100-200.
So effective price is still 30-40% lower than xsmax.
couldn't aapple have released airpods and still kept the headphone jack? I mean its weird i dont even use my headphone jack alot but i feel robbed when i have a phone that doesn't have one for some reason.
It's ultimately still an android device, with all the pros and cons that come with using one.
At this point, I think the iPhone and Android user base are more or less self-selecting. Yes, you have a small number of users switching sides ever so often, but by and large, we have more or less settled on which device is suitable for us, and it's likely going to stay that way for some time.
Samsung phones are never going to get the tight-knit integration the Apple ecosystem enjoys for the simple reason that Samsung doesn't own or control the underlying software, and it continues to face stiff competition from cheaper alternatives which also run the same underlying OS (which means access to the same App Store and core functionality).
I think that at this point, Samsung should be looking over their shoulder and be more worried about upcoming competition from newcomers like Huawei, rather than constantly trying to bash Apple in the media.
Just as Apple is unlikely to ever open up iOS the way you can modify and tweak Android to your heart's content, or offer features like expandable storage or a headphone jack. Apple is ultimately one company offering you one man's (extremely opinionated) vision of how people ought to interact with their devices. Love it, hate it, it's ultimately your choice as to how you want to vote with your wallet, and the world moves on.
Apple is a design company which emphasises minimalism and purity in hardware design. Their products have never been abut having the most features or being the most useful, but about distilling the purest mix of form and function, which is in turn achieved by cutting out everything deemed not necessary in the design.
Once you understand this underlying philosophy (whether you agree with it or not is immaterial), then Apple's recent design decisions make more sense. Look at the 2016 MBP. It's thinner and lighter, because to Apple, a thinner and lighter device is a more portable, and therefore a more useable product. You gain USB-C at the expense of losing every other port because USB-C is supposed to this ultra-versatile port that can take on any feature you want (with the right adaptor), and it helps make the device thinner. You have the very controversial butterfly keyboard, as well as the touchbar (which is supposed to be a more versatile row of functional keys, but whatever).
Apple was clearly trying to reimagine the laptop by taking design and functional cues from the iPad, and well, they weren't very successful. But they still went ahead with it because just like the scorpion in the proverbial story of the frog and the scorpion, it is Apple's nature.
This is also why I believe we will never see a cheese grater Mac Pro being re-released. Apple never looks back, only forward.
So Apple isn't exactly lying, but you have to read between the lines and realise that your definition of what makes a "great" Mac is likely not going to be what Apple deems "great".
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In a nutshell, no.
Apple is essentially signalling that wires have no place in a wearables world. This is more Apple trying to get ahead of the status quo and trying to influence consumer behaviour, and less about them trying to save a few cents here and there in component costs.
I disagree. We live in the present and Samsung's software has been increasingly getting better in these last years.
One UI is the most praised Samsung Android version I can remember. Even The Verge made a video where they praised One UI. So Samsung is on the right track software wise.
It just feels like you mentioned this without a real reason or substance behind it.
Samsung is not as restricted as you think. At the end Samsung just takes the good/positive things Google does(which is fair) and modifies or improves some of the stock android things people don't like. For example Samsung's One UI is not restricted to Google's stock Pie navigation gestures, or to system wide white theme.
I disagree, Samsung is and always was way above stock Android in terms of features and not it seems that it's also at parity or above stock Android in terms of performance/stability/smoothness/consistency.
And as of right now Samsung does have one of the best custom Android versions on the market. So what other companies do is of little importance.
Samsung has been undercut by other Android manufactures in the mid-range market. But they are making efforts there as well. When it comes to flagships Samsung's Galaxy S flagships are Nr. 1 by far when it comes to sales.
Samsung has made the right decision with the S10 and S10+. The large batteries, large base storage, Ram, impressive displays, cameras and overall superior hardware-software combo will allow them the remain the Nr. 1 flagship Android vendor in 2019 no problem. Bonus because of the competition their S10 phones will eventually drop in prices. So September iphones will have a tough time competing with the S10.
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I was almost shocked by the idea you agreed with me that it’s very hypocritical for the company Apple saying that the Mac is very important for them and in the meantime neglect it and keep promising about great things in the pipeline for it since 2012.
Would you trust that same company saying privacy is very important to them and in the meantime getting billions and billions of dollars from google to use their search engine?
All words with one goal in mind: profits
Cook is the master of hypocrisy for years. But you can only play that card for a certain amount of time, that time is on the crossroads.
Time has running out for Cook to put actions by his mouth.
I was almost shocked by the idea you agreed with me that it’s very hypocritical for the company Apple saying that the Mac is very important for them and in the meantime neglect it and keep promising about great things in the pipeline for it since 2012.
Would you trust that same company saying privacy is very important to them and in the meantime getting billions and billions of dollars from google to use their search engine?
All words with one goal in mind: profits
Cook is the master of hypocrisy for years. But you can only play that card for a certain amount of time, that time is on the crossroads.
Time has running out for Cook to put actions by his mouth.
Nope. Samsung are releasing an update that has the location icon always displayed using the always-on display feature. Apple told their customers they were wrong.