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w00t no headphone jack, wtf!
What will these iPhone demonizers buy in the future?
$h!7 happens lol

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Well, it might seem alien to you, as you call people who don't like iphones "demonizers" (hyperbolic much?)

But in Apple world, Apple makes a change to the phone you aren't 100% happy with, Tough. You want to use an iPhone, you have to take what Apple gives you

That is NOT true in Android Land. In Android land, if a manufacturer does something to annoy the user base, there is plenty of choice to go elsewhere and speak with your wallet. If Samsung DOES drop the headphone jack, and it IS an unpopular move, users will dump samsung and go with one of the many other high quality manufacturers.

So what would those "iPhone Demonizers" buy if not samsung? HTC, Huawei, Sony, other samsung phones, Xiaomi, etc. etc .etc. there are dozens of good quality Android handset makers. And we're not in 2007 anymore, Even the lower cost midrange android devices are very smooth and functional devices capable of day to day operating without any real impact to the user.
 
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Sanyo for the win!

Wait? Sanyo still exists? the 90's called. they want their "Cassette player" brand names back :p

I had one of these bad boys for a long time :D
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edit: on second thought, 80's? I think by 92 I had a Discman...so this had to have been earlier
 
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I don't think Apple ever planned on using USB C on i-devices, especially as iPhones get more space constrained in the coming years. USB C requires a port that's even larger than the micro USB it's replacing.

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Apple tested iPhone 7 models with USB-C, but then decided against it.

The truth is that USB-C is simply a better port than Lightning, and it's totally stupid to not implement it into mobile devices. ESPECIALLY if you remove the headphone jack (as Apple did). The only way to legitimately replace the headphone jack is to provide another universal option, which Lightning is not. If Apple implemented USB-C into their phones, then they could make USB-C earpods, and then those earpods could be used in other products such as the Mac. But as it stands, the iPhone headphone situation just SUCKS because you can't use those Lightning headphones with ANYTHING minus the phone itself. It's really, really, really dumb.
 
That is probably the one thing they could do to win any more business from me.

Until then, I can't help but see them as the money-grubbing run-of-the-mill corporation that they have proven themselves to be.


Yes, they were so anxious to grub your money that they gave you a set of lightning equipped headphones and a free adapter in case you were one of the rare ones who didn't use either wireless or the included earbuds. Oh, and they lowered the price of extra adapters to essentially their cost. $9.00 And in return, they used that space to give you a bigger battery, a new larger camera, stereo speakers, waterproofing and better taptic engine., that and more without any price increase. Boy, those greedy bastards aren't very good at being greedy, but we see your point Winston, kind of, I guess, . ..well .... hey, quick, there's some kids on your lawn!
 
I don't think Apple ever planned on using USB C on i-devices, especially as iPhones get more space constrained in the coming years. USB C requires a port that's even larger than the micro USB it's replacing.

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They made it fatter where the camera is, they could do the same at the connector. They could have put the connector at the other end and just had a single bulge in that general area to account for both camera and connector.
 
Of course this was coming. No phones will have 3.5mm jacks in 5 years.

Apple once again leads the way in dropping outdated technology to drag us into the future.
Not sure it's so much about leading the way, but more a case of you jump first Apple. Now they've seen the backlash of Apple's "courageous" decision.
 
But this is not true right? Samsung uses wireless charging...

"There will be no way to charge and listen to music at the same time without a special adapter,"
 
I remember when they made fun of Apple for removing the headphone jack.

Samsung keynote guy: "and you know what it comes with...? A headphone jack."

Wow. I bet google phone will follow suit.
 
Wireless IS the way forward. Fact.

And nope. Never had a 3D TV, I knew 4K was going to take off and bought one ages ago.

Get over it! Thanks!
Wireless audio may be the future, but in it's current implementation it is a mess. We had more choice with the previous generation of the iPhones as you could still use bluetooth headphones and those who prefer wired could still use those. By eliminating the headphone port it did nothing but eliminate choice to the end-user.

But since Apple did this it was inevitable that the other major players would follow suit.
 
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While not a fan of removing the headphone jack, at least Samsung used a standard connector rather than a proprietary connector like Apple.

On the positive side, it will give Apple an opportunity to sell more expensive Lighting -> USB C dongles to connect your headphones to the iPhone.
 
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We can rip on Samsung all we want for copying Apple. But hey, at least they're using USB-C instead of stupid Lightning.

Apple has been one of the pioneers of USB-C implementation, yet they don't even want to use it in their mobile devices....It's SUCH a HUGE inconvenience!
It may be an inconvenience for you but the majority of people don't have pcs or macs the use usbc yet.
 
As I've been saying, I don't mind the headphone jack being removed so long as it is replaced with a wired option which is STANDARD. Samsung fullfils that automatically by having a USB port on the phone.
 
While not a fan of removing the headphone jack, at least Samsung used a standard connector rather than a proprietary connector like Apple.
Apple will never use usbc for the iPhone. Lighting has a smaller port and won't compromise the thinness and design. Everyone sits behind their keyboards and type nonsense, ignoring the logical reasons for the way apple does things.
 
Apple will never use usbc for the iPhone. Lighting has a smaller port and won't compromise the thinness and design. Everyone sits behind their keyboards and type nonsense, ignoring the logical reasons for the way apple does things.

Yea I know - and its sad. Everything is Apple does is compromised for thinness. It isn't logical.

Maybe in the years ahead there will be a USB C Mini connector?
 
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Well, it might seem alien to you, as you call people who don't like iphones "demonizers" (hyperbolic much?)

But in Apple world, Apple makes a change to the phone you aren't 100% happy with, Tough. You want to use an iPhone, you have to take what Apple gives you

That is NOT true in Android Land. In Android land, if a manufacturer does something to annoy the user base, there is plenty of choice to go elsewhere and speak with your wallet. If Samsung DOES drop the headphone jack, and it IS an unpopular move, users will dump samsung and go with one of the many other high quality manufacturers.

So what would those "iPhone Demonizers" buy if not samsung? HTC, Huawei, Sony, other samsung phones, Xiaomi, etc. etc .etc. there are dozens of good quality Android handset makers. And we're not in 2007 anymore, Even the lower cost midrange android devices are very smooth and functional devices capable of day to day operating without any real impact to the user.

Well the way how they acted on the net "on iP7 release" was like demonizing it, yap.
Samsung is simply leading the Android platform, and soon the resistance of the headphone jack rebels will break apart.
Sounds like a movie title: Harry Potter And The Resistance Of The Headphone Jack Rebels
Anyway, once that happens, you will start reading that BT is good enough, blah blah blub...
They will start to putting their current situation at good light.

Kinda funny to see that happening. lol
 
Yes, they were so anxious to grub your money that they gave you a set of lightning equipped headphones and a free adapter in case you were one of the rare ones who didn't use either wireless or the included earbuds. Oh, and they lowered the price of extra adapters to essentially their cost. $9.00 And in return, they used that space to give you a bigger battery, a new larger camera, stereo speakers, waterproofing and better taptic engine., that and more without any price increase. Boy, those greedy bastards aren't very good at being greedy, but we see your point Winston, kind of, I guess, . ..well .... hey, quick, there's some kids on your lawn!
Nothing is free and you'd be deluded to believe Apple have given us stuff out of the plain old goodness of their hearts. Did you notice that the nice plastic box the headphones usually come in was missing? No, they got shot of that for cardboard and that's where the money for your free adapter came from. Their obsessiveness for form factor at the cost of functionality is what drove them to remove the jack (I'm still mad at them taking the optical drives away on the Macs). By the way, where's my Airpods?!!
 
We can rip on Samsung all we want for copying Apple. But hey, at least they're using USB-C instead of stupid Lightning.

Apple has been one of the pioneers of USB-C implementation, yet they don't even want to use it in their mobile devices....It's SUCH a HUGE inconvenience!

Will release airpods on time as well
 
Hopefully wireless headphones take off quickly. Because as it is we've gone from having one wired standard to 3, and I'm sure some other manufacturers will chose their own.
 
Of course Apple should have put a dongle or different lead in the box or dumped lightning for USB-C. (They did stick a headphone one in the iPhone box so I really don't get all the uproar over that.)

I bought two USB-A to USB-C connectors for £5 from Amazon. If you can't afford that you should not be buying a £700 phone or a £3000 laptop. There has always been a certain amount of pain in buying the latest and greatest from Apple and they've always been gouging b@stards! As long as we keep buying their stuff, they'll keep doing it. We are their bitches.

Hi

A search of amazon for 'USB-A to USB-C' has a heck of a lot of adapters.
Please can you post the link to the one that works well.
I read the apple version is US $19.00
thanks
 
Of course this was coming. No phones will have 3.5mm jacks in 5 years.

Apple once again leads the way in dropping outdated technology to drag us into the future.

Yep, and the key is nobody said it was going to be seamless or easy, hence the adapter in the box for NOW. But in the future, we'll look back and laugh at the 3.5mm jack.
 
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