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i don't think apple users would profit from this.
samsung is a very important player that helps pushing technology forward.

what would you gain if they had to close?
you don't have to buy their products.

I would also like to see their mobile division fold...
As a parts manufacturer they seem fine. It's as a device manufacturer that the sleaze seems to creep in.

I would love to see the TRUE innovations & original designs from the likes of Motorola, HTC, and now even Google themselves, thrive on the Android handset front.
I like competition, but I really "got it" when Jony explained how insulting and unfair it is when he & his team spend months and months of long hours, away from their family, to perfect a particular look, feel, and style - then a Korean company comes out with a "rough approximation" of that by blatantly copying it, in a period of a few weeks. I would feel **** on as well! That makes a mockery of many individuals hard work & I despise the fact that they have been handsomely rewarded for this despicable behavior.
 
Via Digital Spy:

http://www.digitalspy.com/tech/smar...wait-is-the-iphone-now-catching-fire-as-well/

Apparently it was an iPhone 6 Plus she's had three months.

Original article:
http://abc30.com/news/fresno-woman-...ed-and-caught-on-fire-in-her-bedroom/1543292/

I note it was charging - I wonder if a genuine charger was used.

"Estrada said the worst part of all this is not the phone, it's replaceable, she said it is the pictures on it. The memories of her kids and a recent promotion are all lost and they were not backed up."

Well she's learnt this lesson the hard way.
 
I actually thought that embedded video was going to be a parody of sorts. Its crazy that the user of a phone from a big company would have to seal it in like 4 boxes, plastered with 'forbidden for transport by aircraft', whilst needing to use provided gloves

Certainly the worst recall instructions and procedures I can recall in recent history


Scary part is someone actually has to handle the transport of these packages then someone has to open them


Whelp Samsung y'all tried and failed epically
 
Via Digital Spy:

http://www.digitalspy.com/tech/smar...wait-is-the-iphone-now-catching-fire-as-well/

Apparently it was an iPhone 6 Plus she's had three months.
Original article:
http://abc30.com/news/fresno-woman-...ed-and-caught-on-fire-in-her-bedroom/1543292/

I note it was charging - I wonder if a genuine charger was used.

"Estrada said the worst part of all this is not the phone, it's replaceable, she said it is the pictures on it. The memories of her kids and a recent promotion are all lost and they were not backed up."

Well she's learnt this lesson the hard way.

Considering most cases with similar past and more isolated iPhone instances were later found to be linked to be using illegal, counterfeit, unauthorized, or otherwise non manufactured approved chargers, charger parts, charging devices or charging methods



I would be skeptical to believe the claims therein and inclined to believe what Scottish is hinting at ( that the person/User was at fault )
 
Good they finally have called it a day with this flawed product (and even more flawed handling of it).

Apple should get some good additional 7+ sales from this (hopefully watching their own battery engineering doubly sure for the future). Its good Apple had increased the 7+ production just prior to release (presumably because they thought the camera would push the sales), it should help make sure there's plenty of stock for folks looking for a big phone alternative from the Note 7. Although iStockNow (however accurate it is) is showing little 7+ stock in the U.S....maybe Apple won't benefit so much.

People talk about Google benefiting and they will to an extent (bascially been sold out of anything but the 32GB white/black since rollout) but they weren't/aren't nearly producing enough to handle the numbers needed here (only Apple and Sammy sell phones in these numbers...at least here in the U.S.). Guessing iPhone 7+'s (if Apple has them) and Galaxy Edge 7's will see the most selections. JMHO...
 
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What a shame. Guess this what happens when you actually innovate with a product and push the boundaries.

Not everybody likes to churn out the same phone for three years...
iPhone 6, iPhone 6s, iPhone 7

Is that what you've taken away from this whole situation? I'd say this is what happens when you put profit first and quality control/your customers last.
 
I think they are missing a zero there, 2.8B seems too low. This is a phone that sells 10s of million at $800 a pop.
 
How can any company get over 100% of the profits in the mobile phone industry?

Traditionally Apple profits for Mobile Phone, plus Samsung profits for Mobile Phone exceed total profits of the Mobile Phone industry because basically only Apple and Samsung are profitable in Mobile Phone, the rest lose money in the Mobile Phone arena. If Samsung loses money on Phone this quarter (and I am guessing they likely will), Apple could actually be the only one making profit this quarter, and their profit would exceed the profit of the entire Mobile Phone industry as a whole.
-Tig
 
Pahahaha. I'll take double per-core performance and reliability over a product that "innovates" and blows up. What's so innovative about the Note 7 anyway? I keep asking and nobody seems to have an answer. Even the iPhone 6S makes mincemeat of it.

I think what you meant to say is: "Guess this is what happens when you desperately push every known gimmicky feature into a phone, because you can't compete on support or performance, or have the self-control to ask yourself if an additional feature would improve the device."

Weren't Apple loyalists bashing the performance-only upgrades at first?
 
Hahaha, good point! Next time you use a courier to transport glass or other fragile items, just slap "contains Samsung Galaxy Note 7" on the packaging.

Bahahaha
Well then best things to come out of Samsung fiasco:

Increased Apple Profit - Check

Other Phone manufacturers increased profits - Check

Samsung Fanboys getting at least a slight eye opener - Check

Finally a way to get your shipping courier of choice to handle things with care - Check


Shipping Couriers Increased Profits in the short term - Check
 
Hopefully the Pixel phones see a bump in sales from this catastrophe. Would benefit everyone for people to abandon Samsung's crappy TouchWiz and move over to stock Android.
 
I think they are missing a zero there, 2.8B seems too low. This is a phone that sells 10s of million at $800 a pop.

Ahahaha that's a riot you think it sold that many
Clearly you've missed the posts involving numbers others have posted


That said the $2.8B some are saying is only taking into account return shipping, handling and disposal of both sold and unsold units


If that's the case then yea
Add in reimbursement of carrier loses,
Other exchange costs ( including but not limited to offering in some cases FREE replacement of choice to those who actually bought or own the device )


And yea I could see costs ( loss ) being greater than $2.8B
Also there's ANY damage done to reputation for years to come that may be hard to put solid $$$ amounts to
 
Wtf? Why? Even if you're not a fan of Samsung, they're probably the only reason why the iPhone screen still isn't 4" and half the features on the newer iPhones are even present.

Competition is good. Don't be stupid.
You should follow your own advice.
Competition can continue even without Samsung.
Look at all the mobile device makers that have come and gone.
The game is still going on without them.
 
Hopefully the Pixel phones see a bump in sales from this catastrophe. Would benefit everyone for people to abandon Samsung's crappy TouchWiz and move over to stock Android.

Most pundits I've heard say Pixel will see a boost as well as the iPhone 7. They also say the entire Galaxy line will suffer, in general and people will be seeking other options, with the iPhone being a top contender which wouldn't have been a consideration otherwise.

They say Samsung will have to re-brand themselves to get away from this major marketing catastrophe.
 
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I would also like to see their mobile division fold...
As a parts manufacturer they seem fine. It's as a device manufacturer that the sleaze seems to creep in.

I would love to see the TRUE innovations & original designs from the likes of Motorola, HTC, and now even Google themselves, thrive on the Android handset front.
I like competition, but I really "got it" when Jony explained how insulting and unfair it is when he & his team spend months and months of long hours, away from their family, to perfect a particular look, feel, and style - then a Korean company comes out with a "rough approximation" of that by blatantly copying it, in a period of a few weeks. I would feel **** on as well! That makes a mockery of many individuals hard work & I despise the fact that they have been handsomely rewarded for this despicable behavior.
Thank you for saying this. Now I don't have to say roughly the same thing. Despicable is a perfect word for it.
 
I would feel **** on as well! That makes a mockery of many individuals hard work & I despise the fact that they have been handsomely rewarded for this despicable behavior.

Yes, because while other phone makers have been making money hand-over-fist, Apple have been stuck on the poverty line, struggling to scrape together the odd billion for an acquisition while their executives don't know where their next share option package is coming from. I'm sure that the gold level in their Scrooge McDuck swimming pools is a good eighth-inch lower than it should have been without all of this copying. I cry bitter, salty tears for them while they play the thinnest, lightest violins on the market.

There may have been cases in the past where true innovators have failed to profit from their work because of copycats, but Apple certainly isn't one of them - the iPhone has given them a license to print money.

I don't forgive Samsung the iPhone-wannabe design of the early Galaxy phones and tabs (nor the far more blatent fake iPhones being churned out by less reputable makers, which might have been what Ives was talking about) or the Fandroids who try and insist that you can't make a phone without making it the exact shape of an iPhone or that the development of Android didn't take a U-turn away from blackberry-a-like when the iPhone was announced. However, if anything, Samsung only started to eat into Apple's profits when they stopped making iPhone clones and started offering things that Apple didn't, like larger screens, styluses, curved displays, better batteries, SD card slots... The Note 7 looked nothing like an iPhone, offered a load of features that the iPhone 7 lacked and would have legitimately taken a bite out of the ~meh iPhone 7's sales if it hadn't been for that one teeny weeny problem... and Apple would be hugely complacent to think that couldn't have happened to them.

I've got Macs, and an iPad Pro so I'm hardly an Apple hater, but I bought a Note 2 years ago not because it looked a bit like a stretched iPhone Mk1 but because the iPhone 5 had just come out and left me completely cold - I didn't like the small, narrow screen and Apple had just dropped the ball by forcing a half-finished Maps app downgrade onto everybody because of what Google told our Sandra about Tim's mum. The "phablet" idea was a game-changer, and Apple were a couple of years behind the pack on that one.
 
Pretty big oopsie for Samsung. I wonder what other products they make in which they have taken dangerous shortcuts? TVs? Air Conditioners?
 
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