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Hey, friend. It's 2017, and a brand new year, be a little more welcoming please. I'll click any article, and make any comment, thank you. The Samsung issue was done to death last year. More focus on Apple and less on the competition would be refreshing considering this is the macrumors site.
Welcome @smacrumon, we're happy to have you here!

Passing an arbitrary reference point on an arbitrary accounting of time, however, doesn't mean people need to accept your comments without reply.

This is as Apple related as anything else. It's Apple's strongest competitor in the mobile space, and they're the closest any company has come to matching Apple's level of design. What happens to Samsung will directly impact Apple's business, and if Samsung is designing close enough to the edge that these disasters happen, then it wouldn't be much of a stretch for it to happen to Apple as well.

This particular item isn't all that interesting other than giving a date for the full report, but find this topic worth following, so thank you for increasing the post count.
 
Here are your mistakes in this post:
1. Macrumors is NOT an "in depth" website. They simply link to other sites for their in depth analysis. Show me one story that is "in depth" that they actually wrote?
2. What has Apple released in the last 1-2 months? Absolutely nothing. So what would there be to cover?
3. Right now, every time you come to this thread, it's another "visit" to a Samsung thread on Macrumors which means their analytics is showing that this sort of story drives people to their site. You are actually having the opposite effect by reading and commenting on this thread....

Further, You are really spending a LOT of time in a thread you don't even care about trying to prove you are right when clearly many of us have pointed out your logic flaws.

Technically the Airpods were just released last month. :rolleyes:
 
Check the stats on note 7 related deaths to gun related deaths . Talk about making a huge issue out of nothing. Some people's hatred of apples competitirs is so selfish on these forums .
Yes, saying death is going a bit far with it. However, it would not be a far stretch to say cause injuries.
 
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It sure seemed like loads in the press. They must surely have gotten some really hot batteries even in pretesting?

Perhaps they did. The trouble is, hot phones from any brand are not uncommon these days, and a tester might've ignored it.

Test secrecy makes it even harder to find such a problem.

In my experience, you find out a lot more info when testers are brought together to talk as a group. One might make an offhand comment that their device had a certain thing happen... perhaps a call glitch or a power drop... and some others will response with, "Hey I saw that too! but didn't think anything of it at the time!"

I would bet that something like that could've happened, assuming any saw the problem at all.

Yes, but it's Samsung so they get a free pass.

Who's giving them a free pass? Certainly not all the reporters who took great glee in things like lambasting Samsung for announcing an upcoming recall before the CPSC did, even though Apple has done the same thing and nobody protested.

Certainly not all those here who keep making dumb grenade jokes. (Somehow the distinction between bursting into flames versus actually exploding into pieces, escapes them.)

However, Samsung does get more sympathy than Apple for one reason: Samsung quickly acknowledged a problem and took the multi-billion dollar hit. Apple is historically well known for pretending that product issues don't exist, or for taking many years to acknowledge them. Many Apple fire hazard recalls took years to begin, and/or were forced by class actions.
 
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Boring site. It misses cool stuff, such as the report that the head of Samsung is about to be arrested.
Again, has nothing to do with iPhone, Mac, Apple, I'm only interested in Apple news, give me juicy patent info, secret MacOS kernel goss, and what's hot in accessibilty assisted software and devices for iOS, stuff of substance, not rubbish.
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Here are your mistakes in this post:
1. Macrumors is NOT an "in depth" website. They simply link to other sites for their in depth analysis. Show me one story that is "in depth" that they actually wrote?
2. What has Apple released in the last 1-2 months? Absolutely nothing. So what would there be to cover? <- Okay Air Pods were officially released. No Major products though.
3. Right now, every time you come to this thread, it's another "visit" to a Samsung thread on Macrumors which means their analytics is showing that this sort of story drives people to their site. You are actually having the opposite effect by reading and commenting on this thread....

Further, You are really spending a LOT of time in a thread you don't even care about trying to prove you are right when clearly many of us have pointed out your logic flaws.
Logic flaws aplenty, just not here.
 
Until the official report comes out, the title should be more like, "RUMORED investigation results".



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Since it only happened to about one out of 40,000 units, they could've done testing with a thousand units for weeks and never had it happen.

Sometimes errors don't become apparent until millions are in actual use. Apple's device problems are prime examples.



Could have been, but plenty of phones have burst into flames in a passenger cabin... including iPhones... with nothing worse happening than a precautionary landing because of smoke.

If an iPhone/iPad fire was the cause of the EgyptAir crash, then the perfume bottles were undoubtedly a major factor in making the fire into a more deadly incident than it should've been.



Official Apple chargers for their other products have been recalled by the millions, so I wouldn't be so quick to always blame third party chargers.

As for proper ventilation (and I would add, putting a phone in your back pocket and sitting on it!!), I agree that for all devices that's probably a major cause of fires. Especially for devices which might have a lot of new phablet users, such as with the Note 7 and iPhone 6.



Besides that click bait story, there's no evidence it was rushed. In fact, it came out about the same time of year as the Note 5 had.



Speaking of Chinese officials, don't forget that the government run TV in China sent some Note 7 users on a paid tour, to give speeches about how people should buy Chinese made phones instead. No ulterior motive there. :rolleyes:

Of course, China is pushing back against other foreign phones as well. For instance, just last month the Chinese government dismissed Apple’s attempts to downplay their own battery shutdown problem, and attacked them for failing to “meet basic consumer needs for normal wireless communication.”

According to your logic, the Chinese government should put extra effort to made Samsung responsible for their Note 7 issue. However, the opposite was the truth. Samsung refused to launch a recall for around 2 months since the first explosion in mainland China, and the government did nothing.
 
As long as they don't know what made the battery to explode their future phones will be still at risk. I think they still don't know why the batteries were faulty

There is a theory that the battery was too tightly packed within the casing, a battery needs some space to expand a bit, Samsung didn't, when it got too hot it expands, there might have been something sharp next to it, so when it did it made it worse, a short circuit and next an uncontrolled fire within the Lithium Cell/Phone.
 
Welcome @smacrumon, we're happy to have you here!

Passing an arbitrary reference point on an arbitrary accounting of time, however, doesn't mean people need to accept your comments without reply.

This is as Apple related as anything else. It's Apple's strongest competitor in the mobile space, and they're the closest any company has come to matching Apple's level of design. What happens to Samsung will directly impact Apple's business, and if Samsung is designing close enough to the edge that these disasters happen, then it wouldn't be much of a stretch for it to happen to Apple as well.

This particular item isn't all that interesting other than giving a date for the full report, but find this topic worth following, so thank you for increasing the post count.
Glad to be here!!!
Again, Samsung has nothing to do with Apple rumors same as Microsoft, Google, HTC have nothing to do with Apple rumors. Just a cheap and nasty waste of time and characters when that time and characters could have been dedicated to actual interesting Apple news. Just a beat up article bashing Samsung. So predicable. Last year's calendar ended weeks ago, the moon has changed as well. Branch out to Samsung news, no probs, but start a new site, don't put it here in MacRumors. (Side note, Samsung doesn't do design, they do imitation and rip off, that's their forte.)
Good day to you.
 
The actual irony is that there have been more iPhone related battery incidents than Note 7 by some margin.

And there have been 0 deaths due to note 7........its killed 0.... so stats wise, its a non event
So Samsung just decided to lose billions for no reason? I am sure there would be some deaths if Note 7 wasn't recalled.
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This comparison is less about the danger coming from the Note 7, but a stark reminder that when it comes to accidental deaths, many people accept an, in comparison much higher, risk with guns.
This forum is not about guns. Bringing the "gun argument" here is just plain stupid.
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Fixed that for ya.;)
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Like @Jsameds said, it was reportedly the batteries from their in house SDI division. Rumor has it they will be sourcing batteries from LG 'til they can safely and reliably use their own again.
Feel free to keep your Note 7 and be the first death ;)

112 fire cases in the first month of Note 7 sale is really not that small risk.
 
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Sure, obviously the batteries from both suppliers were faulty...

Too them this long only to say that the issue was the battery, just like the first time.
 
Check the stats on note 7 related deaths to gun related deaths . Talk about making a huge issue out of nothing. Some people's hatred of apples competitirs is so selfish on these forums .

It is very insane to compare casualties related to guns -- which, given their design intent, is likely to be higher than other products -- to casualties related to telephones, which should be nearly zero when used correctly.

It is equally insane to make the claim that concern over a very dangerous product flaw is simply a "hatred of competitirs." I don't care what brand of telephone somebody else uses, it literally has no impact on my life. I do care that devices used by others won't fail prematurely, causing injury or property damage.
 
Of course it was the battery. That's probably the only thing in a phone that's capable of spontaneous combustion. It took them this long to come to that conclusion?! Hopefully, they know what the actual fault with the batteries was -- so as not to repeat the same very costly mistake this year.
 
I don't see this affecting them long term. And that's because OEM's like Apple is refusing to compete with them feature for feature. If the iPhone 7 Plus was a total redesign and came with built in Apple Pencil people would have forgotten about Samsung and the Note. I owned the Note 2, Note 3 and Note 4 before I switched over to camp Apple and I understand the desire for the device.
If Apple decides to comes out with another S model I'm taking a hard look at the Note 8. You gotta figure that Samsung is going to come back hard in 2017 with both the S8 and Note 8. They have to regain the "mainstream" trust again. Hardcore folks are still going to buy regardless.
 
Glad to be here!!!
Again, Samsung has nothing to do with Apple rumors same as Microsoft, Google, HTC have nothing to do with Apple rumors. Just a cheap and nasty waste of time and characters when that time and characters could have been dedicated to actual interesting Apple news. Just a beat up article bashing Samsung. So predicable. Last year's calendar ended weeks ago, the moon has changed as well. Branch out to Samsung news, no probs, but start a new site, don't put it here in MacRumors. (Side note, Samsung doesn't do design, they do imitation and rip off, that's their forte.)
Good day to you.

Ironically your posts are just cheap and nasty wastes of time and characters when I could be reading posts that are actually interesting... Funny how things come full circle.
 
It's not necessarily about reporting the battery being the culprit, as we already suspected from reports. It's about releasing the investigation results publicly, which was never confirmed officially. There has to be some form of public information release or documentation stating the concluded results. It's procedural more than it is obvious what we already were aware of from the start.

And during any investigation, its policy for companies to remain silent and not acknowledging any information until the investigation is completed.
"After our extensive forensic investigation, we have determined that we can now say the battery fires were caused by *drumroll* the battery."

I get it, legal needs to suss out the communication from the engineer's findings, but I guess I expected something...more telling? Maybe data on how the cell was too large for the endclosure and the tight tolerance IP67 construction placed too much stress on the upper portion of the battery where the main board connector is located causing a random and unpredictable arc. Or something. Anyhow, cool.
 
Hey, friend. It's 2017, and a brand new year, be a little more welcoming please. I'll click any article, and make any comment, thank you. The Samsung issue was done to death last year. More focus on Apple and less on the competition would be refreshing considering this is the macrumors site.

I don't think an exploding phone would be considered much competition.
 
Glad to be here!!!
Again, Samsung has nothing to do with Apple rumors same as Microsoft, Google, HTC have nothing to do with Apple rumors. Just a cheap and nasty waste of time and characters when that time and characters could have been dedicated to actual interesting Apple news. Just a beat up article bashing Samsung. So predicable. Last year's calendar ended weeks ago, the moon has changed as well. Branch out to Samsung news, no probs, but start a new site, don't put it here in MacRumors. (Side note, Samsung doesn't do design, they do imitation and rip off, that's their forte.)
Good day to you.
Give your post a good objective reading and then ask yourself if you're the right person to be criticizing the MR team for lack of focus and Samsung bashing...
 
So Samsung just decided to lose billions for no reason? I am sure there would be some deaths if Note 7 wasn't recalled.
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This forum is not about guns. Bringing the "gun argument" here is just plain stupid.
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Feel free to keep your Note 7 and be the first death ;)

112 fire cases in the first month of Note 7 sale is really not that small risk.

I'm sorry, did anyone say for no reason? Note 7 were recalled for a good reason, absurd is the notion that these will cause deaths. Talk about drama queens
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It is very insane to compare casualties related to guns -- which, given their design intent, is likely to be higher than other products -- to casualties related to telephones, which should be nearly zero when used correctly.

It is equally insane to make the claim that concern over a very dangerous product flaw is simply a "hatred of competitirs." I don't care what brand of telephone somebody else uses, it literally has no impact on my life. I do care that devices used by others won't fail prematurely, causing injury or property damage.

It's also absurd to claim that people who still have note 7s are putting society and children in danger..... Yeah, my comment was the insane one...
 
I'm sorry, did anyone say for no reason? Note 7 were recalled for a good reason, absurd is the notion that these will cause deaths. Talk about drama queens

If you're so sure then please feel free to purchase one and have it charge downstairs overnight in a nice bundle of loose papers for you know, safe keeping.
 
This forum is not about guns. Bringing the "gun argument" here is just plain stupid.
I didn't bring in the gun argument. I didn't even comment on the person who first brought it up. I only corrected on an incorrect dismissal of it.

If you don't want something to be discussed, don't participate in the discussion.
 
Who's giving them a free pass? Certainly not all the reporters who took great glee in things like lambasting Samsung for announcing an upcoming recall before the CPSC did, even though Apple has done the same thing and nobody protested.

Certainly not all those here who keep making dumb grenade jokes. (Somehow the distinction between bursting into flames versus actually exploding into pieces, escapes them.)

However, Samsung does get more sympathy than Apple for one reason: Samsung quickly acknowledged a problem and took the multi-billion dollar hit. Apple is historically well known for pretending that product issues don't exist, or for taking many years to acknowledge them. Many Apple fire hazard recalls took years to begin, and/or were forced by class actions.

I'm referring to the members of this forum. I believe that (for the most part) the media did a fair job at covering the Note 7 issues and helping pass along the word of a recall. But the usual suspects that are first to bash Apple for anything and everything are curiously defending Samsung and downplaying the Note 7 issues.

And sure, Samsung quickly acknowledged the initial problem. But when an actual injury occurred from a supposedly "safe" model, they very clearly tried to cover it up:
http://bgr.com/2016/10/09/samsung-note-7-recall-replaccement-explosion/
Not sure how that makes them any better than Apple. In fact, the only recent Apple recall I could find in terms of a fire hazard is the Beats Pill XL recall in 2015- and that speaker was released even before Apple purchased Beats. I know you could dig further back and find more recalls for both companies, but I have no intentions of actively trying to dig up old dirt on either Apple or Samsung.

For what it's worth, I don't think the Note 7 tarnishes Samsung in the long run. In fact, I actually think their future phones will be even safer out of an abundance of caution. I just think it's silly that all the chronic Apple bashers fall at their feet to defend Samsung after months and years of complaining about every single decision and product that Apple makes.
 
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