Seems to be a US issue only. In other parts of the world, we are already using platform agnostic services like WhatsApp, Line, Telegram, WeChat, etc. We don’t have any issues with what phone people have.
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Sarcastic Android 'Lyric Explainer Video' Urges Apple to Adopt RCS in Messages
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I know this is sarcastic but I know just a single Android user.
Right but then the guy was on about having group chats with Android users - so you have to use something that isn't Messages. If you want the conversation to be about Messages then you can't mention group chat with Android users either.
I take it you only use the stock apps and don't download anything from the AppStore then?
I have a step son in law and he is a big 'droid fan. So since my time on the planet is coming to an end as I have now been placed on on home hospice but he bought one of those foldable phones but boy what a piece of garbage that is. All you sees this big @$$ crease right down the middle of it. If Apple ends up ip in the foldable phone category I sure hope they can fix that crease issue. Such an annoyance, but that is only my opinion. I understand droid people may like it
And that’s the thing, the problem Google’s trying to “fix” has already been resolved via Telegram, WhatsApp, Signal, etc. etc. Google’s failed at messaging so many times, their only plan at this point is to beg Apple to make them relevant. BUT, what they’re offering is, again, just another app, so no benefit to someone already using one of the other apps.
Yep. RCS is basically designed to be a power grab by the wireless carriers, to get more money flowing back to them. Carriers should be dumb pipes. Don't want to return to the old ways. Google's pushing it because it'd break an Apple selling point that they haven't found a different way to beat.
I have a lot of work contacts that use Android, easily as many that use iOS. Like it or not, when it comes to work we use whatever gets the job done.
You are confusing “platform agnostic” with “platform specific.”
You have to be on WhatsApp or Telegram to send and receive. If someone doesn’t have the app, they don’t get the message. SMS is platform agnostic. You just need any phone capable of receiving a text, so anything since the mid 90s.
Interoperability arguments have been going on for decades, with the promise of AIM opening up with MSN and others. It never happened then and it won’t now unless a regulation requires it.
Whatsapp is available on both smartphone platforms, iOS or Android, meaning it's not specific to one platform like iMessage.
Google RCS is technically not "platform agnostic" either as it requires Google's Messages app. It doesn't work with any SMS apps from the various OEMs. SMS, OTOH, works with any stock SMS app on any phone.
Precisely! What Google is offering is “just another app” like the other apps that already exist. WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram made themselves attractive enough to users and that drives the installation of the app. And, seeing as how folks chose those for privacy, Google’s history means that if you want privacy, you’re not using Google’s solution.Google RCS is technically not "platform agnostic" either as it requires Google's Messages app. It doesn't work with any SMS apps from the various OEMs. SMS, OTOH, works with any stock SMS app on any phone.
Do people in the US still actually predominantly use texts? Here in Oz we use pretty much every app but texts for messaging.
We also don't care if zuckerface reads our messages. If he wants to see my c*ck pics, that's his problem.
We also don't care if zuckerface reads our messages. If he wants to see my c*ck pics, that's his problem.
Why doesn't Apple simply allow other messaging apps to be used as fallbacks within iMessage? Then any/all messaging apps that want to register to this fallback API could be added by the end user. This way iMessage could be the "universal" messaging portal. Heck, Apple could even rename it to "Apple Unified Messaging."
If Google wants to provide a RCS-compatible messaging app on iOS/iPadOS that can register as an iMessage fallback, great, go for it. Then Apple doesn't have to do anything except maintain the fallback registration API.
The user interface would allow some number of fallback messengers (say, up to 5), and you could move them up or down in order of preference. So if you want iMessage to try WhatsApp first (assuming WhatsApp/Meta play ball), that could be your first choice. SMS could be one of the choices, and you can decide where to list it in the ranking.
Green color coding would be retained for SMS. Fallbacks to other apps might be purple.
What's wrong with this?
If Google wants to provide a RCS-compatible messaging app on iOS/iPadOS that can register as an iMessage fallback, great, go for it. Then Apple doesn't have to do anything except maintain the fallback registration API.
The user interface would allow some number of fallback messengers (say, up to 5), and you could move them up or down in order of preference. So if you want iMessage to try WhatsApp first (assuming WhatsApp/Meta play ball), that could be your first choice. SMS could be one of the choices, and you can decide where to list it in the ranking.
Green color coding would be retained for SMS. Fallbacks to other apps might be purple.
What's wrong with this?
Simply? Why don't you just simply install the app clients for the service you wish you use? That way you can maintain state, authentication credentials, and contact lists separately to their respective networks instead of convoluting a relatively simple messenger with undue complexity. What you are asking for would require a universal contact list managed at the system level to even work and I'm not sure a single third-party service, much less Apple, would got for that.
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Smart phones are not unhealthy for us.
Just like anything, smart phones *can* be unhealthy/dangerous to some people.
Literally anything can be bad/unhealthy for someone if they’re not responsible, alcohol, drugs, food, even water can kill you if you have too much of it.
And yes, smart phones can be bad for people.
The majority though? I wouldn’t say so, the majority use it as a connection and communication tool as it was intended, and to get work done.
In the same way as nothing being wrong with having a couple drinks during the weekend or after a long days work, there’s nothing wrong with using smart phones.
There’s healthy and there’s unhealthy just like all parts of life
Apple lies about many things. For Apple, you are also the product and, unlike Google, it does not give anything free for using you as a product. It is using the litany of privacy as a differentiator while it goes about tracking you happily in the name of first-party. It is excellent that Germany and probably the EU after that will bring accountability to Apple's actions. Not everyone is surrounded by Apple's RDF.
Germany launches investigation into Apple's App Tracking Transparency
Germany's Bundeskartellamt has initiated a proceeding against Apple to review whether its ATT app tracking rules are anticompetitive.
www.medianama.com
Unfortunately everyone has that friend who makes bad decisions with their life 😂
Only because they’ve been effectively free for quite awhile. And, I’d have to guess they’ve been effectively free for awhile because Cingular (now AT&T) began offering “free” texting with the iPhone and iMessage and the other US carriers had to adjust to offer competing features before they got the iPhone. Once they did get the iPhone, the ball was already rolling in the direction of cheap/free SMS messaging and that’s where we are. The rest of the world had the iPhone by 2009 bringing with it “WhatsApp”. The US had free messaging via iMessage and the carriers on most major plans, the rest of the world had WhatsApp and the other carriers felt no drive to interoperate and make WhatsApp superfluous.
Because that’s simply not how it works. I know there are likely nice analogies that make it SEEM like that’s how it SHOULD work, but it doesn’t.