I don’t think end-to-end particularly excludes a platform that has backups that may be seen by 3rd parties. Every phone can backup the whole disk to a 3rd party who can access the data on it. That would mean no phone has end to end by this definition.
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Sarcastic Android 'Lyric Explainer Video' Urges Apple to Adopt RCS in Messages
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I'm a web developer so of course I know, making a website compatible with all existing standards does create a mess. I also know it won't "just work", adding stuff on top of each other overcomplicates things and make the overall software less reliable and consumes more resources. We see it every year on each new iOS / macOS release with their fancy new features that sometimes break stuff when people were just asking for more reliability.
I think there is a misunderstanding. The issue is not about Apple being able to read the backup and the message history contained in it: I agree that would not mean breaking end-to-end encryption because the messages in the backup are decrypted by the recipient, so after end-to-end took place.
What happens is that the private key itself is available in the backup: this means Apple can not only read the decrypted messages in the backup (which were decrypted by the recipient), but also decrypt encrypted messages independently from said recipient.
Yes, Apple is so terrible for not pissing away time and money into diluting a hallmark feature of their flagship product.
The EU should mandate this. Lazy rotten Apple.
I don't want that garbage green as others stated.
Keep your Android malarkey OUT OF MY APPLE SYSTEM
WE BLUE OVA HERE LOOK AT MY PROFILE ITS A BLUE M NOT GREEN
BLUE
Keep your Android malarkey OUT OF MY APPLE SYSTEM
WE BLUE OVA HERE LOOK AT MY PROFILE ITS A BLUE M NOT GREEN
BLUE
I did use Whatsapp because it’s very popular over here in Europe but deleted it the minute I learned it had been bought by Facebook.
Yeah, it‘s much better to feed Zuckerberg or use the extreme right wing‘s tool of choice.
So much this.
Your both-side-ism is both inappropiate and very tired. Google and Facebook basically make all their money by lying to their users, i.e. pretending they‘re the customer and not the product. Compared to them, Apple is indeed pure gold.
I don't see why people are so against this. It doesn't have to replace SMS or iMessage but would created an in between option where you can use enhanced features like increased media uploads, reactions in non-text form and typing indicators etc. Group chats would be smoother when mixing iMessage and non iMessage users. It's not any less secure than SMS, and Apple could even potentially try implementing it in a privacy friendly way.
I'd rather they do it properly on their own time before the EU gets involved.
I'd rather they do it properly on their own time before the EU gets involved.
I'd love to see a group chat mixing iMessage, RCS and SMS users 😂 A nightmare for your device to manage 😂
Because cross platform tools are used in a healthy society (green/blue bubble are a very US specific thing).
As if that was the original motivation. It was done because text messaging was expensive outside of the U.S. and when WhatsApp became available everyone switched to it.
SMS where realy expencive (10+ years ago) practically everywhere, but strangely only in the US and in a few other limited circumstances users have decided to use imessage and not a cross platform app.
Has I said cross platform tools are used in a healthy society.
I don’t know if it’s RCS, but in iOS 16, instead of the text of a reaction being sent, it’s now placed on the message bubble like with iMessages.
Before iOS 16
With iOS 16
Before iOS 16
With iOS 16
The green comes from “this message may cost you”.
An iMessage message was free as it used data. SMS messages USED to cost users in the US, but these days they all offer free SMS as a feature.In the “consumer friendly” EU, they are still charged per text to the tune of billions per year. That’s why everywhere outside the US uses WhatsApp, because they can text without getting shafted by the EU carriers. Of course, now a huge amount of commerce and communication, which COULD have been handled by the EU’s carriers working together, is handled by a US corporation. Talk about short sighted!
it is Google that has brute force implemented some functions to allow Android's users to use the IOS's reaction
I kinda like being able to stay in touch with friends and family…. What is your proposed alternative?
That doesn’t make sense. It’s the UI within Messages in iOS 16. I’m the only one in the group text that has iOS 16 and there is only one person in the group text that has an Android. It would be how the Messages app is interpreting what to display.
First off, it has nothing to do with fantasies of having a “healthy society”. You didn’t all gather around and have a national meeting and all agree to use WhatsApp. And you certainly didn’t do it with the goal of having a “healthy society”. As I previously said, the driving force and motivation was to avoid expensive SMS, something that doesn’t exist in the U.S.