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IF you switch, go with the new Moto X (2014), it's the best of both worlds.

Ok, so here's the deal. I've been using my trusty iPhone 4S for 2.5 years now and I loved every minute with it. Before that, I used an HTC Desire and it wasn't a great experience. I'm fully integrated in an Apple environment, macbook, imac, ipad and all get a lot of use.

I always told myself I would upgrade my phone when the iPhone 6 would be announced. And I still want to. But... it's just.. argh. The availability of the iPhone 6 is so terrible here, I know I should be patient (or should've ordered one when they became available). So there's that, and the fact that in a local electronics store I spent quite some time playing with an LG G3 on display and I was amazed at the display, the big screen-but-relatively-small-device, and, I'm Dutch, the fact it is half of what I would pay for my iPhone 6 of choice.

So here I am, seriously doubting if I should wait for the iPhone to become available or save myself the money and risk a LOT of frustration by going to Android. I'm not a troll, I really want an iPhone, I love it, I'm very invested in it regarding apps and integration in my daily life. But damn, I'm cheap. And doubting, haha.

Convince me to stick with Apple! :D
 
But, at the same time, the fluidity and reliability will vary depending on which minor interval update you're running, as well as which apps.

Yes, apps crash, but with iOS 8 I have not had a single system restart. And if I deleted the handful of apps that do crash on me regularly, then I would not have any crashes either.

If I was still running iOS 7.0, then yes, my phone would be laggy and very prone to crashes and random restarts across the board. But, with iOS 8.0.2, none of that applies.

When making cross-platform generalizations, you need to account for not only the maturity of a particular platform, but also the maturity of a specific version.

no i dont believe that... generalisation is just that... generalisation.
owning an iOS device means that you'll be exposed to ALL versions of iOS from that point on, whether it be 7.0, 8.0 or 7.12 or 8.1.2. And, as you said, some of these versions are less stable than others.
Thereby, the generalization that iOS 'just works' and 'doesn't crash' is invalid.

Thereby, it is misleading to people who are considering these two platforms to say that iOS is stable and Android is prone to crashes, when in reality, both crash, whether or not that is due to a specific software version, is irrelevant. They're not buying an iPhone 6 just for 8.1. they're buying an iPhone 6 and will see 8.1, 8.2, 9.0, 9.1 and all the crashes that come in between.

EDIT: by the way, i use an iPhone 6 as my daily device.
 
So no preference?

i'll be honest with you. I've been using iOS for long time..wanted to see what android was all about. It's confusing mainly because i'm not too technical with smart phones. However, I've been playing with it...research youtube about features and stuff like. Picture quality is great. Still checking on NFC capability.
stylus isn't bad...not used to it. I'm glad there are ways to transfer stuff from phone to mac computer and vise versa.

As for iPhone 6 plus..i'm just used to having iPhone...so i'm getting mainly for eco-system. iCloud stuff like that.

Bottom line: both are good and both have flaws...so i got both if one is lacking that another has.
 
One big key difference between Android and iOS in my opinion:

While nice, Android is almost too customizable. I spent countless hours/days messing with it. Constantly tweaking it to my liking. Switching it up completely every few days.

With iOS I can change wallpapers every few days and that's it. The OS works great and I mainly focus my time on using the phone and not customizing it.

It's probably my personality but Android was too overwhelming because I always wanting to be messing with the look of everything and it sometimes made me anxious.

I feel less anxious with iOS...lol

Ok I'll call my shrink now. :eek:
 
One big key difference between Android and iOS in my opinion:

While nice, Android is almost too customizable. I spent countless hours/days messing with it. Constantly tweaking it to my liking. Switching it up completely every few days.

With iOS I can change wallpapers every few days and that's it. The OS works great and I mainly focus my time on using the phone and not customizing it.

It's probably my personality but Android was too overwhelming because I always wanting to be messing with the look of everything and it sometimes made me anxious.

I feel less anxious with iOS...lol

Ok I'll call my shrink now. :eek:
lol i hear ya.
 
I thought you dutch people were rich lol. You should've preordered one, half of Europe already has pluses , and the plain 6 is like... Walk in and buy in almost every store. Anyway, if you have macs and other apple stuff stick with apple.
 
no i dont believe that... generalisation is just that... generalisation.
owning an iOS device means that you'll be exposed to ALL versions of iOS from that point on, whether it be 7.0, 8.0 or 7.12 or 8.1.2. And, as you said, some of these versions are less stable than others.
Thereby, the generalization that iOS 'just works' and 'doesn't crash' is invalid.

Thereby, it is misleading to people who are considering these two platforms to say that iOS is stable and Android is prone to crashes, when in reality, both crash, whether or not that is due to a specific software version, is irrelevant. They're not buying an iPhone 6 just for 8.1. they're buying an iPhone 6 and will see 8.1, 8.2, 9.0, 9.1 and all the crashes that come in between.

EDIT: by the way, i use an iPhone 6 as my daily device.

No, you're not exposed to "ALL" versions of iOS, if you choose not to update the device or choose to wait until a later update becomes available. Even now, less than half of all iOS users are on iOS 8. People using an EOL'd version of iOS (i.e., 5.1.1 or 6.1.3 or 7.1.2) in all likelihood have a very stable device, and by next August, close to 90% of iOS users will be on the EOL'd iOS 8.x.x, and it too will be very reliable and stable. That's why our iPad 3 is still reliably running on 6.1.3, and my daughter's iPad mini still reliably runs on 7.1.2.

Judging an entire platform based on the premise that X.0 versions are crash-prone is a faulty generalization, since that's not the final interval for that particular OS version. The final verdict on iOS 8 won't occur until all of the successive updates have come out. By that time, we will again likely see a very reliable and stable OS. And when iOS 9 comes out, we'll see the same litany of complaints from early adopters.
 
No, you're not exposed to "ALL" versions of iOS, if you choose not to update the device or choose to wait until a later update becomes available. Even now, less than half of all iOS users are on iOS 8. People using an EOL'd version of iOS (i.e., 5.1.1 or 6.1.3 or 7.1.2) in all likelihood have a very stable device, and by next August, close to 90% of iOS users will be on the EOL'd iOS 8.x.x, and it too will be very reliable and stable. That's why our iPad 3 is still reliably running on 6.1.3, and my daughter's iPad mini still reliably runs on 7.1.2.

Judging an entire platform based on the premise that X.0 versions are crash-prone is a faulty generalization, since that's not the final interval for that particular OS version. The final verdict on iOS 8 won't occur until all of the successive updates have come out. By that time, we will again likely see a very reliable and stable OS. And when iOS 9 comes out, we'll see the same litany of complaints from early adopters.

so at the end of the day... iOS doesnt 'just work'... it 'just works' provided you do the steps you outlined above.
guess what, the same goes for android. Android is stable too, provided you know to do the necessary steps to keep your phone being stable.

iPhone is not like an iPod that 'just works' and stays that way without you even worrying about it. That's the misconception that I was trying to address.

neither platform is a magic platform. saying iOS is better than Android because 'it just works' is a misconception.

I understand what you're saying, but OP's question is iOS vs. Android as whole, as a platform, not iOS vs. Android as a version.
 
i have note 4 but i'm still getting iPhone 6 plus. In another word..i'm getting both.
wait the Note 4 has not been released yet. How you get your hands on one? I held the Note 4 at a local best buy and i must say it feels better then any other samsung phones they ever made.

I've own many android phones. I switched over to the iphone 6 plus. So far i like it. its very smooth.

Give it some time and the Note 4 will LAG!!!! I've had Samsung Galaxy S3, S4, S5, Note 3, LG G3, HTC One M8. All lagged after a month of usage. Note 3 and LG G3 have bad reception. I compared it with my girlfriends S5 and the s5 on verizon has better reception then G3 or the note 3.


get a moto x/nexus/htc one or stick with the iPhone, stay far far away from other android OEM skins.

^this if you want to switch to android, minus the htc one. Moto x or nexus is just android with no other OEM launchers/skins/bloatware that you dont need and will slow down your phone.
 
so at the end of the day... iOS doesnt 'just work'... it 'just works' provided you do the steps you outlined above.
guess what, the same goes for android. Android is stable too, provided you know to do the necessary steps to keep your phone being stable.

What steps? Sticking with an EOL'd OS actually entails fewer actions on the end user's part than committing to an OS update, especially for those using lower capacity devices that do their iOS updates OTA.
 
Ok, so here's the deal. I've been using my trusty iPhone 4S for 2.5 years now and I loved every minute with it. Before that, I used an HTC Desire and it wasn't a great experience. I'm fully integrated in an Apple environment, macbook, imac, ipad and all get a lot of use.

I always told myself I would upgrade my phone when the iPhone 6 would be announced. And I still want to. But... it's just.. argh. The availability of the iPhone 6 is so terrible here, I know I should be patient (or should've ordered one when they became available). So there's that, and the fact that in a local electronics store I spent quite some time playing with an LG G3 on display and I was amazed at the display, the big screen-but-relatively-small-device, and, I'm Dutch, the fact it is half of what I would pay for my iPhone 6 of choice.

So here I am, seriously doubting if I should wait for the iPhone to become available or save myself the money and risk a LOT of frustration by going to Android. I'm not a troll, I really want an iPhone, I love it, I'm very invested in it regarding apps and integration in my daily life. But damn, I'm cheap. And doubting, haha.

Convince me to stick with Apple! :D

The iphone 6 is beautiful in looks and runs very fast. As I said in another thread, i had the 4 and that was a hog with many pictures and apps. Don't have any second thoughts about this iPhone. Mine is a space grey and 128GB. Good luck.
 
wait the Note 4 has not been released yet. How you get your hands on one? I held the Note 4 at a local best buy and i must say it feels better then any other samsung phones they ever made.

I've own many android phones. I switched over to the iphone 6 plus. So far i like it. its very smooth.

Give it some time and the Note 4 will LAG!!!! I've had Samsung Galaxy S3, S4, S5, Note 3, LG G3, HTC One M8. All lagged after a month of usage. Note 3 and LG G3 have bad reception. I compared it with my girlfriends S5 and the s5 on verizon has better reception then G3 or the note 3.




^this if you want to switch to android, minus the htc one. Moto x or nexus is just android with no other OEM launchers/skins/bloatware that you dont need and will slow down your phone.

Lol I guess I am sure old phones will lag but I got mine as korean version of note... How much gb did u have?
 
What steps? Sticking with an EOL'd OS actually entails fewer actions on the end user's part than committing to an OS update, especially for those using lower capacity devices that do their iOS updates OTA.

having to check on the blogs and internet to make sure that their specific device configuration is stable on the new OS.
when i updated my iphone 4 to iOS 7 because the update notification popped up, 'it just works' means i wouldnt have had to worry. in hindsight, i shouldve worried.
but anyway, were getting into semantics ha.
 
I'm a lifelong Mac user. I was utterly devoted to BlackBerry for 10+ years, but in that time I was constantly switching to other platforms. I always came running back to BlackBerry but that didn't stop me from diving into every other platform under the sun. Oddly, the LAST platform I tried was the iPhone. It's been a revelation. I spent so much time and effort trying to make my BlackBerrys (and every other phone) do what the iPhone does natively as far as integration with my Macs.

If I was a dedicated Google services user I'd definitely be using Android.
If I was a dedicated Windows/Outlook user I'd definitely be using WP8 or BlackBerry.

As a Mac user, however, the choice is clear. iPhone. :apple:
 
Lol I guess I am sure old phones will lag but I got mine as korean version of note... How much gb did u have?

its not old. s5(16gb) or note 3 (32gb)? they have pretty decent specs but still lagged. LG G3 (32GB) has really good specs and it lagged. but those because these phones are loaded with their own launchers and useless stuff on it.
 
Give it some time and the Note 4 will LAG!!!! I've had Samsung Galaxy S3, S4, S5, Note 3, LG G3, HTC One M8. All lagged after a month of usage. Note 3 and LG G3 have bad reception. I compared it with my girlfriends S5 and the s5 on verizon has better reception then G3 or the note 3.


I never understood why these phones lag as time passes. I used an HTC one GPE for a month and it never lagged even after I add a lot of apps.

Can someone explain why these phones lag with time?
 
I'm still sporting a 4s too. I recently purchased an unlocked Moto G second generation. I really loved the way it felt in my hand and the customizing it offered.

However my whole family has iPhones and I couldn't get text from my family. I followed several guides on making this work and while it was probably just me over looking some setting or something nothing worked for me. So I ended up returning the phone. Android IMHO is pretty good overall but...

In the end I buy my phone to communicate with friends and family and iMessage just makes it so easy to stay in touch. I will wait it out until I can purchase an iPhone 6.
 
It sucks you can't have both the iphone 6+ and the note 4....... because when you hook up the iphone the sim for the note is no good anymore....and they are different sizes...
 
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