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I think consultancy is not about inventing something that has been already rumored a few times before
Keynote
From what I remember of past keynote commentary, people seem to think a keynote "sucked" or succeeded based on what products were delivered, regardless of whether Steve was there or not. I know there is little pre-Macworld rumour flying around but I'm looking forward to seeing what Phil talks about. Since Macworld is consumer oriented, perhaps we'll see OpenCL accelerated demos of Core Image or the iLife suite? I also agree with part of Tallest Skil's first post on this thread that I'd rather see Apple get Snow Leopard right and not rush it out early.
From what I remember of past keynote commentary, people seem to think a keynote "sucked" or succeeded based on what products were delivered, regardless of whether Steve was there or not. I know there is little pre-Macworld rumour flying around but I'm looking forward to seeing what Phil talks about. Since Macworld is consumer oriented, perhaps we'll see OpenCL accelerated demos of Core Image or the iLife suite? I also agree with part of Tallest Skil's first post on this thread that I'd rather see Apple get Snow Leopard right and not rush it out early.
I think consultancy is not about inventing something that has been already rumored a few times before
True i was jesting and maybe regret the comment. having said that i havent seen the idea b4 (havent been on MacRumors for months) and does coming up with a great theory independantly when it is known by others make it any less impressive? read Genius about Richard Feynman - they all shared the nobel prize!
Seriously b4 i get accused of plagerism again
is there a master list of known bugs in Leopard or other apps anywhere that people agree on? I read a few posts on a different thread about things like - "i have the screen bug on the macbook" - and no one agrees with them it is known about. I have a problem with mail not closing down sometimes - is this a known bug? or just me - where do i go?What. Apple doesn't support anything but the previous-one and current OS X versions when they release new products or services. 10.3 and below? They'll just tell you to upgrade*. Not to mention the vast majority of Mac owners get new OS X versions when they buy a new Mac. When 10.6 comes out, expect the next versions of iLife, iWork, Pro apps, etc to all require at least 10.5. The "killer app" of 10.6 is a large speed increase from developers taking advantage of new technologies.
So in order to counter this rise in costs and need for more income to offset it you're suggesting they give it away free or "cheap"... And Vista's failure had nothing to do with the issues you're talking about. Vista failed because 3rd parties didn't upgrade drivers or did them badly, poor performance, the nagging security, the higher system requirements and the confusing array of different versions.
Point increases do not add major features. The notion that 10.6 is just 10.5.x for money is stupid.
[* - iLife, iWork, Mobile Me, Aperture, Final Cut Studio, Shake, etc all require 10.4+. I'm hard pressed to find ANY current products that support 10.3]
your point on new owners getting the latest release is very valid but it will take a while to filter through even at their increase sales rate. however i was suggesting that the Speed increases arent going to be that amazing for older users on older machines so they arent as likely to upgrade for that alone unless the apps are worth it. i bought leopard first day because it gave me great new things to play with. hence my view that it will be cheap or have killer apps. it wont just be about multicore support. it will only be free if there are no major gains in apps and all they are trying to do is pull in the corporate buyers. they will end up with a stretched out user base which they may not support as previously but this will alienate the users whereas previously the message has been dont stay on older versions as look how cool the new one is on your old machine. the message will now be look at how little benefit you get from upgrading unless there are killer apps.
I actually think we are saying similar things? that we are all excited to see what snow leopard contains and we hope its more than just better multicore support. though perhaps our difference of opinion is about the large speed increase - i use the following apps regularly - mail, word, excel, pages, evernote, safari, address book, iPhoto, iWeb, calendar, sync services, keynote and powerpoint. i also play with lightroom and photoshop. i just dont believe i am going to notice an amazing speed difference. now if i was encoding a lot of video and doing a lot of graphics maybe - but the user base seems to be in several camps. "arty" users, home users, Students, cool business users etc. how many of them are going to notice a difference?
whats your predictions? im genuinely interested. what would you like to see in the apps?
It's true, but that's disappoint is due to the excitement that builds up for the keynotes - the magic recipe of the combination of Jobs / products / how Jobs introduces the products. Apple is sometimes the victim of the expectations that it helps to create with its secrecy and product introduction style. Even with the disappointment, the press buzz is usually substantial and free publicity is nice.
People weren't usually that up or down about a Steve Balmer keynote. It's true that an Apple keynote is likely going to be more interesting than Microsoft regardless of the presenter because we're more excited about the Apple products. Still, it may be a - I'll check the web store at the end of the day rather than refreshing Engadget continuously to find out that "doors are opening" "people sitting down" "lights dimming" etc.
Well, it wasn't inevitable after all. Ask Adobe about Carbon64...
This reconnect process is so transparent on Windows that in fact the system will automatically disconnect idle shares to reduce the number of connections that the server has to manage.
As soon as a reference is made to a disconnected share, it is transparently reconnected.
Most people don't even realize that this is happening. (Issue the "net use" command in a command window, it will list shares and their states.)
Which means you are missing the point again. Apple can release all the OS versions they want, and sell them to you as many times as you want to buy. But they should be DEMANDED to support the things for security for five years!
An OS & computer is NOT obsolete in 17 months!
Yes, for a software-only purchase, it is a harder case to make. That is why I am making the point specifically to a computer bought at retail. Apple is NOT selling the software. They are selling a hardware/software solution that is advertised on American Idol and sold as easy and safe. The reality is they are not delivering on the safety portion. EU has much tougher standards and laws about these things, so I expect if a lawsuit bites them, it will probably be there.
Developers? No, it's all about OS technologies that will give future machines superior performance. We've hit a ceiling where just upping the GHz of the CPU doesn't pay off in substantially better performance. The next generation of computers will be all about how to make larger numbers of processors work together and how to make the best use of GPUs. The point is to make this as transparent to developers as possible by building the intelligence into the OS.
Why would they have to rewrite their drivers? If you mean for 64-bit, all they need to do is recompile. The number of data structures that are 32-bit/64-bit dependent should be minimal, and I bet they've been testing a 64-bit OS for a long time now.
Edit: 10.6 will probably support all of Apple's Intel systems, but at least all of the Core 2 Duo systems.
The future is all about using the GPU to do some of the work. GPUs are floating point monsters which are left almost to no use except gaming or heavy professsional applications. Apple and Microsoft must bring GPUs to ordinary applications as well. A midrange GPU like ATI 4670 is more powerful than an i7 system when it comes to parallel and floating point calculations (I have both and the 4670 leaves the i7 system in dust in Folding@home)
I really hope Snow Leopard ushers a new era in that regard. It is long overdue and I cant believe it is taking all these companies such a long time to get it to work
As AMD says, Tomorrow is all about Fusion = CPU + GPU
The power of general processing in CPU + the massive floating point and parallel power of GPU can do a great deal even in ordinary applications
I really hope Snow Leopard ushers a new era in that regard. It is long overdue and I cant believe it is taking all these companies such a long time to get it to work
As AMD says, Tomorrow is all about Fusion = CPU + GPU
The power of general processing in CPU + the massive floating point and parallel power of GPU can do a great deal even in ordinary applications
There was some code revealed (how accurate it is, I don't know), but it lists a new generation for iMacs and Mac minis; Apple could have completely redone the inside of the iMac.
I apologize - that's how my nephew's name is spelled.
"Developers, Developers, Developers"...nuff said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8To-6VIJZRE
Look at those sweat stains..
I may be displaying my ignorance here, I don't use a Mac on a large network (only home LAN), but can't you email something like afp://server/share?
In theory, yes, but in practice, it tends not to work half the time. And unlike the Windows equivalent, you can't specify a path. OS X is just too network-stupid to figure out what is a share and what is a path. A Mac will choke on this for example:
afp://server/share/path/to/something/
I just tried it myself and now I have the "connecting to server" dialog frozen on my screen and no way to get it to stop other than rebooting. And get this... I was *already* connected to that server and share. That's just dumb, dumb and dumb.
Windows, on the other hand, does it consistently and without complaint.
Exactly! I've noticed that too and it makes me wish Apple would do something equivalent to that. It's so elegant and Mac-like. The Mac just throws up his hands and does this ditzy little "Gee, I lost my network connection and I don't know what to do." It's freakin' annoying and one very badly designed aspect of OS X.
Same here, although I don't think my iBook can wait any longer than January. I guess a lot of it will have to do with iLife '09, Snow Leopard, and Spring update dates and significances.
The optimistic side of me has thought for a while that there will be a few end-user features that will be pointed out, primarily to entice users to upgrade. We've already seen one: Icon audio/video play previews. Maybe we will see more.
Maybe Apple will add one or two new applications to Snow Leopard that take advantage of its new features. That would also be one or two more reasons to buy it.
And my MWSF predictions? Cinema Displays, Mac mini, iPhone talk, sales talk etc., Snow Leopard talk, maybe iLife/iWork '09 (maybe they'll have Snow Leopard optimizations). iMac update only if it's significant (quad-core desktop CPUs).
While I agree with the last point, since it is their software, don't they have the right to stop updating it when they want??? I would rather have them look forward as much as possible, then be like Windoze, stuck in legacy code that they can't dump, but that's just my $.02. Feel how you want, but I'm ok with the way they do it.
And the customer has the right to pick a platform where there are guarantees and tradition of support.
First, Microsoft's support for older operating systems doesn't tie them to "legacy code" per se. Supporting Windows 2000 Server and Windows 2003 for security patches and interoperability doesn't prevent new features. It's more work, but for business systems you need support commitments.
Second, Microsoft doesn't add new features to the old systems - usually they'll ensure that system X and system X-1 can co-exist, often by letting system X run in a compatibility mode that disables features incompatible with system X-1. To get the latest feature set, you'll need to upgrade. (This is common with Active Directory enhancements - only when all domain controllers in the forest are at the new version are all the new features available.)
Apple can be more capricious about support - if they decide that an 18-month old system is obsolete, they can leave it off the upgrade path. When 10.6 comes out, and is x64 only - time to think about replacing all those PPC and Core Duo systems.
Well, it wasn't inevitable after all. Ask Adobe about Carbon64...
The article was an assumption - with that being said; Steve had been parading around on stage for almost a decade with his proverbial todger swinging from side to side chanting the virtues of XCode and Cocoa. If you as a programmer have ignore the site - then obviously you shouldn't have a job as a programmer.
Vdeo card as a co-processor
This has probably been discussed already, but with OpenCL can one simply plug in an extra video card to act as a co-processor even if said video card is not used as a video card (ie no monitor attached)?
This has probably been discussed already, but with OpenCL can one simply plug in an extra video card to act as a co-processor even if said video card is not used as a video card (ie no monitor attached)?
To be truthful, Apple's been parading around for decades talking about things that never came to pass - Pink, Yellow, Blue, Taligent, Copland.... You can't fault software companies for taking a "wait and see" approach with regards to Apple's claims about software roadmaps.
I really strongly disagree with this point. A programmer at Adobe doesn't decide to port to Cocoa - that's a much higher level decision. The engineering product and development managers have to decide where to invest effort and money.
This certainly does not mean rewriting the codebase whenever there's a new fashion in programming languages and frameworks. This is especially true when the "new fashion" is proprietary to only one of the target platforms.
Since moving to Cocoa was a huge expense (especially for a very large multi-platform project like CS), and since the added value for the end user is quite small, and since Apple's roadmap and beta drops showed continued support for Carbon -- it would have been foolish for Adobe to spend money on a Cocoa port.
Had Apple been less capricious, and stated years ago that Carbon64 would not happen, then those same engineering investment decisions would have been to move to Cocoa -- because the added value for the end user would be apparent.
Apple caused this problem, not decisions at Adobe. Recommending a port to Cocoa, and stating that Carbon is disappearing, are two different things. Apple should have stated that Carbon64 would not happen many years ago - not surprise their developers by pulling it after shipping a 10.5 beta with Carbon64.
The fact that Apple still ships a Carbon Finder shows that even Apple ignored the recommendations!
Nvidia supports this with CUDA - so certainly OpenCL could as well. Nvidiea even sells "graphics" cards without monitor connectors for this:
Nvidia also sells prepackaged 1000 core supercomputing engines with 4 of these cards - http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla_computing_solutions.html Supported for XP and Linux.
So with Snow Leopard, they're getting rid of some unnecessary code, besides just coding everything more efficiently, right?
So, if that's right, does that mean it might take up a bit less HD space?
Or am I totally wrong, and it's going to just keep taking up more space?
So, if that's right, does that mean it might take up a bit less HD space?
Or am I totally wrong, and it's going to just keep taking up more space?
So far, it's a heck of a lot smaller. Have you seen the charts on application size?