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Schiller to Demo Snow Leopard at Macworld?

Sort of, and no, you don't need to.....

The important points I'm sure Apple will cover with "Snow Leopard" are the details of what has changed "under the hood" to allow it to be faster. A side-by-side comparison? Sure, that will be part of it. But there's a lot of room to explain how the new technologies inside actually do what they do, allowing developers to easily code apps that balance their load over multiple processors and so forth.

(Something like moving from EDGE to 3G is a lot less interesting to explain from a tech. standpoint - because by and large, cellphone owners really don't CARE about the details of how the cellular signals differ from each other. Computer users have more reason to care, because some want to write their own software. Others are simply so used to hearing the "It's faster!" promise thrown about, they want more details of WHY they should believe the statement.)

But no, you have NO reason to give up on the G5 for a while! That's still a very nice machine, and can hardly be distinguished from the latest Mac Pro towers at a first glance. I owned one, and decided to resell it and get a new Mac Pro -- and honestly? 80-90% of the time, in regular daily use, I can't tell I even switched machines. It's nice being able to run "Intel-only" apps that pop up here and there, and it shreds through things like video transcodes. But let's face it. Most of us spend more time just surfing, checking email, a little bit of work on a web site or playing some music in iTunes... whatever. The G5 will feel PLENTY snappy doing all that stuff, to the point where a Mac Pro seems about the same.


KindredMAC said:
I hate to be a downer but isn't this really just going to be a side by side performance show of how much faster Snow Leopard is on an Intel Mac than Leopard is on the same machine? Kinda like "Ooooh look how much faster 3G is over EDGE!!!"?

But don't get me wrong, I'm really hoping that's all it is and that there are no real new features added just yet.

I'm not ready to give up on my PowerMac G5 as my central hub for all things Mac in my house. I won't have the cash to replace it with a Mac Pro, or even high end iMac, until late 2009/2010.
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generally speaking is it easy to go out buy the new os when it comes out and have everything transfer over seamlessly?
 
KindredMAC said:
I hate to be a downer but isn't this really just going to be a side by side performance show of how much faster Snow Leopard is on an Intel Mac than Leopard is on the same machine? Kinda like "Ooooh look how much faster 3G is over EDGE!!!"?

But don't get me wrong, I'm really hoping that's all it is and that there are no real new features added just yet.

I'm not ready to give up on my PowerMac G5 as my central hub for all things Mac in my house. I won't have the cash to replace it with a Mac Pro, or even high end iMac, until late 2009/2010.
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Every new revision of the OS comes with new features. I'd actually hope that they release more features and make it better -- you should too, so they're nice and stable when your budget allows.

Only this year did I replace my 1GHz G4 Powerbook. It was very long in the tooth. My new 3GHz iMac is incredible, but Time Machine and Time Capsule weren't 100% ready when I made the purchase. They've made improvements, and they worked when I needed them, but until the update before last there was some manual handholding.

A PowerMac G5 is a fantastic machine. Unless it's watercooled, stand by it with confidence for another 1-3 years. If it's watercooled, seriously consider flipping it on eBay for another PMG5 that's aircooled.
 
Tallest Skil said:
I refuse to use anything that Microsoft makes. Why would I have had to suffer through Entourage, anyway?
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If you needed exchange calendar support in a corporate environment (scheduling meetings with your colleagues and determining their availability), then you'd understand why.

It's not a matter of choice... MS Entourage is the only game in town.

Let's hope snow leopard delivers the goods, and gives us the relief we need.
 
Tallest Skil said:
As has been shown with the proliferation of their system, they got online gaming right. Xbox Live, while I've never used it, is really good, by what people say, so kudos to them.

But the OS? And Office? No, thanks.
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The keyboards and mice are pretty good too.

And umm....umm.... I'm tapped.
 
i wonder...

Is OpenCL written to harness the extra GPU grunt of the first-gen Ati cards or only the more recent ones?

:confused::confused::confused:

CaPo
 
Tallest Skil said:
Since Snow Leopard is a rewrite of the OS itself and not the addition of new features, I'd much rather they take the extra months and make sure it works.

I can deal with a new aspect of the GUI being buggy or a new app that doesn't work. I don't want to have to sit for a week without a computer because when I installed 10.6, I installed a broken Finder and a Grand Central station with a cross-wired switchboard.
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Sorry, I think we were referring to different things. I edited my first post to show that I was referring to this quote:

Tallest Skil said:
Uh... if this WASN'T going to happen, we could safely assume that Apple has completely given up on their computers...
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And not the part about waiting till WWDC. I too would find it best if they waited to make sure it was ready. However, if they by chance got their programming correct quicker than expected, then I would love to see it come out before then, as long as it's not rushed.

jW
 
sonicboom said:
Let's hope snow leopard delivers the goods, and gives us the relief we need.
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Luckily I don't need my Mac at work, so I'm happy with iWork and don't need Exchange support.
But what I don't get is: How does the release of Snow Leopard change anything about Microsoft Entourage? If the program is buggy, it's most likely MS's fault and not Apples. Am I missing something here?
 
I'd rather they released it at WWDC and made it flawless.

A complete rewrite of some of the core technologies takes time.
 
the news here is that there's going to be a snow leopard demo and not who gets to do the presentation....I realize that i'm a new member in Mac community but still i was reading the post about Apple dropping the MW and the stock value going down and couldn't believe in my eyes :(
Typical "America's gone nuts over nothing" situation.So what?We still get to keep WWDC -even if Apple drops that as well,which i highly doubt,they will come up with an alternative for sure given the respect and care Apple has for developers- and the Special Events :) Who wants a company rushing its products down our throats just to be able to present them in an expo?? To those that cried about Steve Jobs not going public with an interview at a tech site all i have to say is LOL...

Ever since i switched from Windows to OSX as my primary os it's been like heaven heaven heaven...plz Apple give me more of that delicious OS of yours and blow my mind away with Snow Leopard :) More speed and more Stability would be welcome -btw listen to me talking about stability coming from over a decade using windows...-
 
Tallest Skil said:
I refuse to use anything that Microsoft makes. Why would I have had to suffer through Entourage, anyway?
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Consider yourself lucky enough to be able to refuse anything Microsoft. Some of us have to work for a living at a job where Microsoft is the standard. I used to work for a state agency, and was lucky enough to have a boss who just converted to Mac at home and was willing to let me experiment with Macs at the office.

Unfortunately the state IT people were not too hot about that, and after having some issues with Entourage, they forced me to make a choice - go all PC, or use Mac with Parallels for Outlook. They used Exchange for email, so I really did not have much of a choice. I'm no longer there - but it's going to be good to know that Apple is working on closing the gap in regards to Exchange support, so if I am ever in the same situation, I don't have to revert to using Windows. :)
 
capoditutti said:
Is OpenCL written to harness the extra GPU grunt of the first-gen Ati cards or only the more recent ones?

:confused::confused::confused:

CaPo
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OpenCL and Grand Central better support every Intel Mac with a discrete video car or else I will be really really pissed!!!:mad:
 
You think 10.6 will let new MBP's use both graphics cards simultaneously?? That'd be neat.
 
thouts said:
You think 10.6 will let new MBP's use both graphics cards simultaneously?? That'd be neat.
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I'm not sure 2 different GPU hardware can actually work together. Even with SLI and Crossfire you need the exact same card on both slots, on Crossfire you even need the same cards coming from the same batch of processing.
 
bristleworm said:
Luckily I don't need my Mac at work, so I'm happy with iWork and don't need Exchange support.
But what I don't get is: How does the release of Snow Leopard change anything about Microsoft Entourage? If the program is buggy, it's most likely MS's fault and not Apples. Am I missing something here?
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Yeah, Mail will fully support MS Exchange with SL so he won't need to use Entourage anymore.
 
Isn't the current state of the developer seeds way off from finished? Wasn't everyone saying that the state of the last seed proved that they were way too far off to finish a good, stable product anywhere before June 09?

And, if the counter to that is that apple doesn't give the developers the full story/latest updates to prevent leaks, that doesn't make any sense to me- making developers test an outdated version is a waste of developer's and apple's time.

Maybe, despite all they've said about no new features, they are planning to add a few goodies. After all, they will have to sell it, and promising it will be faster and offering exchange support would only appeal to the more apple faithful and those who need exchange support, which probably is a relatively small percentage of their potential customers. Anyway, they might add a few gimicky features and show them off, allowing the new features to be put into developer seeds without fear of leaks.
 
milo said:
Any solid confirmation yet that it will be intel only, or still just rumors?



Example? The best thing I can think of is probably xbox.
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I still think there is no comparison to Excel. I like Numbers, but when you need to get the job done, there's simply no tool better than Excel.
 
iBug2 said:
I'm not sure 2 different GPU hardware can actually work together. Even with SLI and Crossfire you need the exact same card on both slots, on Crossfire you even need the same cards coming from the same batch of processing.
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Gotta be honest I don't know what you just said BUT I do remember a story here somewhere when the new mbp's came out (pretty sure on the front page) that said something about the possibility of running them together. Thats the only reason why I brought it up...said something about new software would be needed.
 
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