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Screen interlacing still present on 5S
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Just what does this image show me?while zooming this on my iPhone 5, moire patterns show on the right, but that's what happens when you add halftone dots, like it appears you did. ...the image on the left has much better color, but vertical lines. ...if I take a screen shot of my home with that icon, it's smooth. I don't get what this pic is supposed to show me.
Ignore the color, contrast, etc. The vertical lines are precisely the problem. (On the 5/5c/5s they seem to be vertical; on affected 4S devices they are horizontal.)
Nope, the zoomed image is just effective for really getting the point across, but even at normal viewing distances those lines are noticeable and sometimes distracting/annoying.
Also, sometimes when things on the screen are in motion (like launching or closing an app) you'll see this weird effect where every-other line doesn't seem to be moving in sync together and you get (for a split second) what looks like interlaced lines on the screen.
Just what does this image show me?
The image on the right shows a normal display. Tightly packed pixels in a perfectly uniform fashion with no obstruction at all. This display will provide a vivid and consistent image full of detail (especially on apple's retina display) and color range. The perfect panel, if you will.
The image on the left is a low quality display being used on many units of the 5S. It has ugly dark streaks running down the image for absolutely no reason. When viewed at a normal distance, the screen appears to have lines on it, much like the images you see here.
It's unacceptable for us to be playing a "screen lottery" when we're all paying through the nose for these phones.
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No. You can see them with the naked eye on certain colors/shades/situations.
As you can see in the picture I posted, it doesn't affect white colors. It hardly affects greens. And it's really the darker colors.
Try watching a youtube video. If you see lines of any kind that you know aren't a part of the video, you have the issue.
Videos are the perfect way to see this because the colors are constantly changing and it sends the faulty panel into a crazed frenzy of vertical lines.
if i weren't a jailbreak user, I'd still prefer a 5 without interlacing to a 5s with it
Same with iPads: preferred a 3 with no image retention, color bleed from a corner or side, and good with dark scenes to a few 4's I tried that had image retention, a hot corner, and less visibility in dark scenes.
That's how nitpicky I am.
Same with iPads: preferred a 3 with no image retention, color bleed from a corner or side, and good with dark scenes to a few 4's I tried that had image retention, a hot corner, and less visibility in dark scenes.
That's how nitpicky I am.
I could see these on the 4 and 4S with some units and yes they ran up and down the screen horizontally and particularly noticeable on grey or bluish back grounds esp if you move your eyes around. Drove me nuts. I sure hope Apple releases a fix for the accelerometer/gyro issue as I do not want to have to play the display lottery.
Ok, I think I get it, I'm satisfied that my iPhone 5 does not have this issue, but I doubt it's running rampant, and Apple should replace units with this issue no problem. I really think the display models sent to stores are not going to be perfect, they will sit in the stores for months or maybe even a year, will have many people touching them and possibly knocking them around or dropping them...they will see abuse most people won't give them, so any units that don't pass quality inspection but are good enough for display might be used for demos. Just my thoughts.
If I am off, then, perhaps it may be a "batch" issue and I just happened to totally miss a bad batch.
...That wikipedia linked freaked me out at first, then I read that the "animations" were simulating the effect (I thought they were just pics, lol).
If I am off, then, perhaps it may be a "batch" issue and I just happened to totally miss a bad batch.
...That wikipedia linked freaked me out at first, then I read that the "animations" were simulating the effect (I thought they were just pics, lol).
Just had mine replaced. Couldn't take the interlacing anymore. Good news is my final replacement (the third one, BTW) doesn't have interlacing. It was built in September, whereas the others with interlacing were July builds. No idea if there is any correlation. Hopefully I'm done with replacements for the next year, until the 6 comes out and we can start this whole process over again
Just had mine replaced. Couldn't take the interlacing anymore. Good news is my final replacement (the third one, BTW) doesn't have interlacing. It was built in September, whereas the others with interlacing were July builds. No idea if there is any correlation. Hopefully I'm done with replacements for the next year, until the 6 comes out and we can start this whole process over again
What device? A 5S? Can you tell me how you know the build date?
I'm getting mine replaced and I emailed Applecare a ton of pictures showing what I DO and DON'T want on my replacement. If it has interlacing, I told them I'm sending it right back.
I'm a little worried now lol.
They don't all have this problem, thankfully. My fiance's silver 32 5s doesn't have the issue. However, my gold 64 5s does. I'm going to ask about my options when I go in for my genius appointment tomorrow. I managed to grab pictures of the effect as well.
The photograph actually makes it look worse than it is, but you can definitely see the scan lines even though it's a smaller photo than the silver.
I'm going to the Apple store tomorrow and hope they have some experience with the matter it only really bothers me when I'm looking around the screen or moments of high motion -- I swear it's interlacing the frames for games like Infinity Blade. It makes them a lot less fun to play.
The photograph actually makes it look worse than it is, but you can definitely see the scan lines even though it's a smaller photo than the silver.
I'm going to the Apple store tomorrow and hope they have some experience with the matter it only really bothers me when I'm looking around the screen or moments of high motion -- I swear it's interlacing the frames for games like Infinity Blade. It makes them a lot less fun to play.
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That is awful.
Yeah don't even try Deus Ex on there. It's equally unplayable. Interlacing EVERY time you move.
Its the way some screens are tuned in the factory. I have seen this on 100s of various mobile devices over the years. The older Blackberries were horrible. Only fix is to replace it but the annoying part as its hard to see for some people. Im sure the geniuses can't see it and will probably think we are crazy. Its like going from a nice progressive scan screen to an interlaced screen. It ruins the retina display. The 4/4S and previous iphones the lines ran up and down the screen. Once you see it you will always notice it.
When this happens to me I call Apple and have them send a replacement rather then show a genius lol.
When this happens to me I call Apple and have them send a replacement rather then show a genius lol.
iPhone 5. Go here and put in your serial number to find your build date: http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html
Good luck with your replacement. Sending them photos of what you do and don't want is futile; you'll just have to go through a series of replacements until you get one without interlacing or other defects.
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Great shot of the problem, and I wouldn't say this exaggerates the problem much at all. It's really quite visible if you know what you're looking for.
Just got my replacement.
After 10 photos and probably 20 calls to make sure they don't send me back one with interlacing and to CHECK the phone beforehand since it DOES say "Inspected by AppleCare" on every replacement box, I finally got my replacement today.
It has by far the worst screen interlacing I've ever seen on a device. Where I had to look for it before and then it became forever noticeable, the problem JUMPED at me on this device. It was the first thing I noticed.
Greys and blues have it the worst. I feel like I'm gonna be sick.
After 10 photos and probably 20 calls to make sure they don't send me back one with interlacing and to CHECK the phone beforehand since it DOES say "Inspected by AppleCare" on every replacement box, I finally got my replacement today.
It has by far the worst screen interlacing I've ever seen on a device. Where I had to look for it before and then it became forever noticeable, the problem JUMPED at me on this device. It was the first thing I noticed.
Greys and blues have it the worst. I feel like I'm gonna be sick.
Just swapped mine out. Honestly, I think it's tuned better than the one I had previously, but I still have interlacing. I accepted it because it was less severe, but it's still there.
I did notice the serial numbers were pretty close together between the new phone and the one I went in with. Both started with DN as well.
I suppose I can settle for a while. I use my iPad more than anything, but if they go OLED or something like that for the iPhone 6 I may go ahead and pay for an out-of-contract upgrade.
I did notice the serial numbers were pretty close together between the new phone and the one I went in with. Both started with DN as well.
I suppose I can settle for a while. I use my iPad more than anything, but if they go OLED or something like that for the iPhone 6 I may go ahead and pay for an out-of-contract upgrade.
I sure hope the accelerometer issue is resolved via a software fix. I do not want to play the iphone lottery with the interlacing screens. Id rather deal with the accelerometer being off then have an interlacing screen lol.
I can't believe this issue still persists. I went through 6-7 iPhones and all had interlacing. What serial numbers are the phones with with interlaced screens? With the 5, it seems serials starting with F2 have a high likelihood of getting interlaced screens.
Like another user said, the difference between a normal and interlaced screen is night and day. A normal display is captivating and is up to par with OLEDs in wow factor. An interlaced one, even if you can't see the individual lines all the time, strains my eyes is just uncomfortable to look at.
Like another user said, the difference between a normal and interlaced screen is night and day. A normal display is captivating and is up to par with OLEDs in wow factor. An interlaced one, even if you can't see the individual lines all the time, strains my eyes is just uncomfortable to look at.
Both of my gold 64s have been DN (interlaced) series. My fiance's silver is a C3 (not interlaced) series.
I had 3 5s's ordered, all screens looked the same, how do you know if there interlaced? I looked at stripped backgrounds and the screen didn't blank out or anything.
Mine's an F1 number
Mine's an F1 number
Honestly, not everyone seems to be able to see it. But if your eyes catch a vertical stripe pattern during high motion or flat colors, that's the effect. The genius I met with couldn't see it, though I got the line "Oh there's always people on forums watching these things, we sold 9 million phones: how bad can it be?" so... yarg.
If your screen is interlacing, you may not see it on it's own. But if you put it next to a properly calibrated phone you'll definitely see it (my SO is very near-sighted with contacts and she can see it when they're next to each other.)
Just got back from the Apple store and am very happy with the results.
The genius was able to see what I was talking about almost immediately. Once I showed her the difference between my 5s and my wife's 5, she was even more convinced of the issue. She hadn't heard of anyone else bringing in their phone complaining of it, though. Anyway, she let me power up the replacement and get to the home screen before she completed the swap, so that we could see if the replacement was affected. Fortunately I won that lottery. The new display was perfect.
The new serial starts with DN, though. According to the poster above me, their interlaced displays also started with DN. So serial numbers might not help determine anything.
I was at this same Apple store last week and looked at quite a few of the 5s display phones. None of the ones I looked at had the interlace. On my way out of the store tonight, I looked at the 5cs. All 5 of the ones I looked at had it, although none were as bad as my 5s.
The genius was able to see what I was talking about almost immediately. Once I showed her the difference between my 5s and my wife's 5, she was even more convinced of the issue. She hadn't heard of anyone else bringing in their phone complaining of it, though. Anyway, she let me power up the replacement and get to the home screen before she completed the swap, so that we could see if the replacement was affected. Fortunately I won that lottery. The new display was perfect.
The new serial starts with DN, though. According to the poster above me, their interlaced displays also started with DN. So serial numbers might not help determine anything.
I was at this same Apple store last week and looked at quite a few of the 5s display phones. None of the ones I looked at had the interlace. On my way out of the store tonight, I looked at the 5cs. All 5 of the ones I looked at had it, although none were as bad as my 5s.
No you don't. If you are semi close to the screen and look at certain solid colors then you will see the vertical lines sort of buzzing slightly.
I had the problem last year on my 5 in 3/5 phones I went through for various reasons.
I had a silver 5s with sprint that I'm sending back to dump them (thank god) BUT the new phone has this ******** vertical line issue...quite annoying and even more so that apple doesn't correct this...