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Price: I find it difficult to see how people can complain about the price of Snow Leopard. It will be greatly cheaper than the only other slightly comparable retail operating system at the time of release which will probably be Windows 7 Ultimate, maybe still Vista Ultimate. Last time around it was Leopard against Vista Ultimate which was £120 against £330. No comparison, my wallet wasn't happy with Microsoft there, Vista high price poor performance, Leopard low price great system.

Features: A classic Microsoft ploy, add on fluff useless features that only add more bugs and problems to the operating system, dont bother with the actual major issues and use the fluff as sales material. Through only a few pages of this thread there have been multiple posters that only see any value in additional features, basically the short sighted who think they are tech savy. The real value is definitely to be found in an operating system that is going to have a smaller footprint, have much greater performance, create good foundations moving fully into the 64 bit realm and also because of that becoming greatly more secure. To anyone with a modicum of common sense the Snow Leopard route is by far the best.

Cant wait until it comes out!!

Windows 7 is simply a service pack for the failure called Vista...that's why it's coming out "sooner" than expected...just in time for them to iron out some of the ridiculous bugs and cut a little of Vista's bloat out...and then they just rebrand it as a "new" Windows...

As usual, OS X is gonna mop the floor with them. MS IS DEAD.
 
"drilling down through stacks"...

pardon if i'm missing something, but this "new feature" is the "graphical icon" version, right?

i right now use stacks as "lists" and i can drill down as far as i want through any folder sequence and it's very fast.
 
Snow Leopard does include Exchange support for Mail, iCal, and Address Book. For those of us with personal hosted Exchange accounts, that's a big deal because it means you can get something much like MobileMe, but more reliable and your own domain for email.
 
I'll buy it. Without even knowing what's in it. I do it so that I'm up-to-date.
I hope they improve BlueTooth. I still can't get my WMM to work...:mad:
An improvement in speed? Reduced footprint? Worth every penny IMHO. Bring it on.

Rich :cool:
 
I understand your sad face but ultimately these kinds of under-the-hood optimizations couldn't be done (or wouldn't be worth Apple's time) if they didn't cut PPC support.

Yup, time to move on sadly. The silver lining is that Leopard shares most of the same features as Snowy, just without the optimizations and the odd neat change, so you've still got a very capable machine for a while.
 
Is it sad to say that I am waiting for Snow Leopard just for the spring cleaning?

I am hoping to buy an SSD at same time with Snow Leopard, and just install it on my laptop just so it'll be clean and fresh on my laptop.
 
It may seem like a small thing, but I really miss the Put Away feature from OS 9. Why the hell did it take them eight freakin' years to put that feature back? Maybe Apple engineers need a Put Away feature in their code base because it took them a long time to add back a lot of the functionality from OS9. I think it was Command-Y in OS9?
What's the difference between hiding an application and putting it away?
 
Windows 7 is simply a service pack for the failure called Vista...that's why it's coming out "sooner" than expected...just in time for them to iron out some of the ridiculous bugs and cut a little of Vista's bloat out...and then they just rebrand it as a "new" Windows...

As usual, OS X is gonna mop the floor with them. MS IS DEAD.
Windows 7 is not anymore of a service pack to Vista than Snow Leopard is to Leopard. If you can argue that Vista is just a "fix" to the failure of Vista, then I will argue that Snow Leopard is a "fix" to the failure of Leopard.

And once again... You clearly know nothing about Microsoft's release schedule. Vista was the sole exception, coming five years after XP. Prior to this, all major Windows releases came 2-3 years later, and 7 is thus falling right back onto this schedule.

If anything, Windows 7 is removing features and bloat, not adding them. Why else would they have cut out things like Windows Calendar, Journal, Photo Gallery, etc?

They are rebranding it as a new version of Windows because there are many end-user improvements being made, just like Snow Leopard is being rebranded as a new version of Mac OS X because there are many low-level kernel improvements being made.

Perhaps Mac OS X is better than Windows, but with just barely a 10% market share, it seems that it won't be doing much "sweeping" at all.
 
Should be a nice upgrade. I really hope they drop PPC to make the OS more streamline.
 
Windows 7 is not anymore of a service pack to Vista than Snow Leopard is to Leopard. If you can argue that Vista is just a "fix" to the failure of Vista, then I will argue that Snow Leopard is a "fix" to the failure of Leopard.

And once again... You clearly know nothing about Microsoft's release schedule. Vista was the sole exception, coming five years after XP. Prior to this, all major Windows releases came 2-3 years later, and 7 is thus falling right back onto this schedule.

If anything, Windows 7 is removing features and bloat, not adding them. Why else would they have cut out things like Windows Calendar, Journal, Photo Gallery, etc?

They are rebranding it as a new version of Windows because there are many end-user improvements being made, just like Snow Leopard is being rebranded as a new version of Mac OS X because there are many low-level kernel improvements being made.

Perhaps Mac OS X is better than Windows, but with just barely a 10% market share, it seems that it won't be doing much "sweeping" at all.

Is it 10% US or Global market share now?
 
What's the difference between hiding an application and putting it away?

Put Away isn't for applications, it's for files that have been moved to the trash that you want to put back where they came from originally.

Windows 7 is not anymore of a service pack to Vista than Snow Leopard is to Leopard. If you can argue that Vista is just a "fix" to the failure of Vista, then I will argue that Snow Leopard is a "fix" to the failure of Leopard.

And once again... You clearly know nothing about Microsoft's release schedule. Vista was the sole exception, coming five years after XP. Prior to this, all major Windows releases came 2-3 years later, and 7 is thus falling right back onto this schedule.

If anything, Windows 7 is removing features and bloat, not adding them. Why else would they have cut out things like Windows Calendar, Journal, Photo Gallery, etc?

They are rebranding it as a new version of Windows because there are many end-user improvements being made, just like Snow Leopard is being rebranded as a new version of Mac OS X because there are many low-level kernel improvements being made.

Perhaps Mac OS X is better than Windows, but with just barely a 10% market share, it seems that it won't be doing much "sweeping" at all.

Removing features isn't a positive thing. If they had to pull features like the Windows Calendar, then it means they had a failed product. No one really doubts that Vista was and is horrible, and only slight improvements have been made. Perhaps it's a slight bit of hyperbole to claim that Windows 7 is just a service pack, but it really is just fixing the giant problem that is Vista.

What are the chances of Snow Leopard being released to the public on WWDC 2009?

I'd say pretty high, but there's a decent chance that the release date will simply be announced at WWDC. I'd expect at least that, though.

jW
 
I wonder if the default gamma changed yet (1.8---->2.2)...
Apple should have calibrated to 2.2 gamma 6500K as standard a long time ago.
 
I know that snow leopard wont be a big upgrade, but I only see "cosmetic" changes.

I think that I wont upgrade.
 
I wonder if the default gamma changed yet (1.8---->2.2)...
Apple should have calibrated to 2.2 gamma 6500K as standard a long time ago.

Just asking, but what exactly does that even mean? I know it has to do with the screen hue....

To the above, how can you actually SEE any changes that aren't cosmetic??
 
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