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Mal said:
Removing features isn't a positive thing. If they had to pull features like the Windows Calendar, then it means they had a failed product. No one really doubts that Vista was and is horrible, and only slight improvements have been made. Perhaps it's a slight bit of hyperbole to claim that Windows 7 is just a service pack, but it really is just fixing the giant problem that is Vista.
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They spun out Mail, Calendar, Photo Management, Movie Maker into the Windows Live suite that you can download. They did this mostly so they can update them separately from Windows and move them along faster.
 
Cripes.
The icons continue to get uglier and more windows-like with each revision,
 
BRLawyer said:
Windows 7 is simply a service pack for the failure called Vista...that's why it's coming out "sooner" than expected...just in time for them to iron out some of the ridiculous bugs and cut a little of Vista's bloat out...and then they just rebrand it as a "new" Windows...
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Agreed, basically what I am saying.

Quillz said:
Windows 7 is not anymore of a service pack to Vista than Snow Leopard is to Leopard. If you can argue that Vista is just a "fix" to the failure of Vista, then I will argue that Snow Leopard is a "fix" to the failure of Leopard.

And once again... You clearly know nothing about Microsoft's release schedule. Vista was the sole exception, coming five years after XP. Prior to this, all major Windows releases came 2-3 years later, and 7 is thus falling right back onto this schedule.

If anything, Windows 7 is removing features and bloat, not adding them. Why else would they have cut out things like Windows Calendar, Journal, Photo Gallery, etc?

They are rebranding it as a new version of Windows because there are many end-user improvements being made, just like Snow Leopard is being rebranded as a new version of Mac OS X because there are many low-level kernel improvements being made.

Perhaps Mac OS X is better than Windows, but with just barely a 10% market share, it seems that it won't be doing much "sweeping" at all.
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Disagreed. Firstly I wouldn't call Leopard a failure in any regard. Apple has been having some of the best quarters ever recently for Mac sales. Apple develop OS X to sell their hardware. That is the only reason they do it. OS X is the huge differentiating factor between PC and Mac and an extremely good one. On the other hand, look at Vista. People are going to all sorts of crazy lengths to get their hands on XP, a now 8 year old OS. So much so, the second hand PC market saw a increase in growth! It is very rare that you hear of someone buying a new Mac since Leopard and wanting to get Tiger on it.

I dont see where release cycles come into any arguments here.

You say that Windows 7 is removing features and bloat. Well removing features yes, why, because they were useless in the first place, not very great. Imagine the uproar if Apple removed iCal!! Removing bloat is another story. The windows 7 beta (I have it installed and have been using it) is definitely a step in the right direction in comparison to vista but there is no saying by build 7000 and release that it won't get bloated again, something I can see happening.

I for one would far rather have an operating system that had stable solid underpinnings and then the features that it could run were carefully added on top of this. Unlike Windows of late, which has the underpinnings that are rotten, heavily stuck with legacy support and are unsecure on top of which there are features which have been applied as thickly as possible with a rusty trowel.

Yes maybe OS X only has 10% market share, for varying reasons. One being a Mac is a premium luxury brand in comparison to the majority of the rest of the PC market. If they were sold as bargain bin thoughtless cheap plastic boxes running OS X they would probably have a far more substantial segment of the market. That is a market Apple aren't interested in for many good reasons.
 
Quillz said:
Windows 7 is not anymore of a service pack to Vista than Snow Leopard is to Leopard. If you can argue that Vista is just a "fix" to the failure of Vista, then I will argue that Snow Leopard is a "fix" to the failure of Leopard.
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And you clearly know zilt about the OS X experience, with such blasphemous comparison with the train wreck that was Vista ("was" because it "is" no more; nobody bought it).

Leopard is absolutely flawless for me and millions of other Mac users around the world. I couldn't be happier with it, and am more than willing to pay for even MORE state-of-the-art versions of OS X, as will be the case with SL.
 
MartiNZ said:
It would be cool if things like that were optional on install, so you could take PPC support if you needed/wanted it, else leave it and potentially be more streamlined.
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There should be an option if you want to install Rosetta or not in Snow Leopard.
 
BRLawyer said:
And you clearly know zilt about the OS X experience, with such blasphemous comparison with the train wreck that was Vista ("was" because it "is" no more; nobody bought it).

Leopard is absolutely flawless for me and millions of other Mac users around the world. I couldn't be happier with it, and am more than willing to pay for even MORE state-of-the-art versions of OS X, as will be the case with SL.
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To play the fairness tune:

Vista has been MS's "fastest upgraded" OS (but they dont mention that its because 98% of new computers will have it there when bought)

OSX is not "flawless" as there is always room for improvement (though IMO its leaps and bounds above windows)


Sorry I had to do that, but you were just teetering on the edge of someone calling you a fanboy.
 
BRLawyer said:
And you clearly know zilt about the Vista experience, with such blasphemous comparison with the train wreck that was OS X Leopard ("was" because it "is" no more; nobody bought it).

Vista is absolutely flawless for millions and millions of other Windows users around the world. They couldn't be happier with it, and are more than willing to pay for even MORE state-of-the-art versions of Windows, as will be the case with 7.
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:D
;)

couldn't resist...
 
jessica. said:
I've yet to be very excited about a new OS release, but Snow Leopard is shaping up well. It's too bad the name just strikes me as stupid on its face.
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I think Snow Leopard is a great way to indicate that the new OSX is not a leap in GUI as it is to be huge pounce in how the OS will use the multiple cores within the CPU and GPUs. So if you think of it as essentially Leopard on the outside, and totally new spots on the inside, you can better appreciate the name.

This is all in comparison to Microsoft's system 7, which I believe is code-named "Snow Job." :D
 
Performance over 10.5

I am so incredibly curious what the performance improvements over 10.5 will be.. full optimization for Intel, smaller overall footprint, OpenCL.

What will it bring us? Amazing speed? More battery drain from the portables? I just can't wait..

Why a UI refresh? Gimme *even more* stability, more speed. Hell yeah!
 
snazzy new look-I would put solid performance and stability as first priority.
getting rid of some of the baggage-and-get this-divide the OS into MODULES that connect/"plug in" to the core kernel. If you want to surf and do paper work why have all the extra overhead, a checkbox(that actually worked would be nice) during install that would let you choose:

1. simple surfing and Office light stuff
2 a module that could handle art and photography
3, one for science category apps
4. One to deal with iPod iPhone and all the communiation apps
5. Or the whole enchilada

I dont use iPod/casting, Boot Camp, stacks,Journal, photo-related stuff such as image capture, etc, iPhone, bluetooth, asian languages,(Chinese Engine in PF) spotlight, quicklook, automator, Parental, Dashboard, Remote management, directory, speech, widgets, MIDI, Expose/spaces, isync, Time Machine, .mac, mail, ink, universal access, 80211, anything Server related, slashing half the desktop pics(i mean really-this still would allow for choice)or even one quarter of the fonts- and thats just what I can think of at the moment etc etc etc;
adding back the search function from Tiger-or something like EASYFIND would be nice

Many of these you rip out and your Mac doesnt work. I use Monolingual already, but really, so much of this is useless clutter and bagage-that if gone would streamline speed things up-I just dont need them-why carry them around? I Dont know if its possible-but it would sure be NEAT
Mix-n-match, or collect them all!



I hope they fix the damn permissions problem. In Tiger I could repair them in 15 seconds or less.
Also-why is it we cant change system fonts like in OS 9?
Lucida Grande is rather drab
 
Waaait...

So stacks now has backward/forward navigation and scrollbars.. Surely this begs the question, why isnt the "stacks like viewmode" just a toggleable view type for all finder windows, including those which run pop up from the dock?

It'd be kinda nice to have an option for something so simple for normal folder navigation, especially once touch screens are more common. Kills all the clutter. Would be useless most of the time but would be slick if you just want to launch apps and drag things around.
 
dernhelm said:
That's why I didn't purchase 10.5, so I could afford 10.6. I upgrade every other release.
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I've done that too recently. Usually there is little reason to have the "latest and greatest" version.

I've been running Mac OS since version 1.1g and the early version changes offered great leaps in useful features (at the cost of performance). Once OSX got past version 10.1 it's been very stable. Version 10.3 added some more stability and a lot more performance, while each version thereafter has been more modest.
 
Looks good enough to eat! :D

This is the most secret development of OSX to date. We didn't have an update at MacWorld this year and don't really know if it will show-up in June or not for the WWDC.
 
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