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And then again in January, and then again in March and then again in July. Rinse and repeat.

Hopefully this won't be the case (for July, at least!), as Covid cases should naturally decline after a winter peak. We already know from experience that infections decline greatly in the summer months. And, hopefully, vaccines will be beginning to have an effect on transmission rates by then.
 
History will show that lockdownss only prolong the inevitable and prolong the misery. In the end, the virus will take the same number of people

Yes, people will die but lockdowns will hold enough until a vaccine....we've made some advancements since 1918. We may not know how to eliminate it right away but medicine has progressed. Whether you take the vaccine or not is up to you.

Our worst enemy is society and how portions believe this is hoax.
 
I wonder if Apple stores in Scotland will have anything in place to prevent mass ordering of iPhones to pick up in Scottish Apple stores from people in England.
 
This particular lockdown only applies to England, as public health is a devolved matter for each of the UK's constituent countries. Wales is already in a lockdown.
But only for another week.

Then we might see three (or more) weeks of England locked down but Wales not.

Though it could all change several times over!
 
Not really sure why the Belfast store is closed though....although the Apple Store page does say it is. Belfast (just to clarify! \s) isn't in England and over here non essential (as in most retail) shops DO NOT have to close during this mini lockdown. So can't work it out. Victoria Square is still open for sure.
 
I've got a MBP in for repair at the moment with Apple UK that isn't due to be ready until Friday! Wonder if they will ship it back to me...

There is some chance it will be ready before the expected date in my experience. If not, you might still want to get back to the Apple store on Wednesday and pick it up regardless, as I don't think there'll be any other way to get it back during the lockdown.
 
You should consider deleting your comment and never speaking on the topic again. Ignorance is why the problem with this virus continues to this day. This specific ignorance you've displayed. You should, frankly, be ashamed of yourself.
He's right. It's all BS. This virus is killing people that should statistically already be dead. We have almost 12,000,000 in my state and it's killed less than 500 under 60 years old, and that isn't even taking preexisting medical conditions into account.
 
Funny how the coronavirus was weaponized and used by left-wing Democrat governors to oppress people in the United States,

That didn't happen.

but the UK national government run by a right-wing government has shown it can play the same game. Reminds me of when George Bush had a right-wing war on Iraq and Tony Blair sold his as a left-wing one...

Yes, it's almost as though some foreign policy decisions have broad support (even when they're misguided), and "left" and "right" aren't all that binary.

These shutdowns are for nothing more than oppressing the populace and politicians showing you just how much power they have over you (the prole). Your “side” isn’t winning, you’re just getting the oppression from people you like

ok cool
 
Poor old England… and look at the USA. China so wins this.
The UK should have faired far better than what they have done. Its an Island(s), so way more easier to isolate than land connected countries. Extremely poor effort.
 
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Funny how the coronavirus was weaponized and used by left-wing Democrat governors to oppress people in the United States, but the UK national government run by a right-wing government has shown it can play the same game. Reminds me of when George Bush had a right-wing war on Iraq and Tony Blair sold his as a left-wing one...

These shutdowns are for nothing more than oppressing the populace and politicians showing you just how much power they have over you (the prole). Your “side” isn’t winning, you’re just getting the oppression from people you like
Did you get so mad your tinfoil hat fell off?
 
Everything seems to devolve, one way or another into Orange Man Bad, It's Trump's fault, or the fault of the politicians I don't like, or whatever.

It's a virus. To think humans have that much control over it is hubris. A lot of people have gotten sick and or died. The fact that so few in relationship to world population have died is sort of a miracle.

In the US, all that is Covid seems to be laid at Trump's feet. I don't think that's fair. HE shoulders some blame, no doubt. But so does the entire body politic. This would include the majority of world leaders. By any metric this is a world wide problem. A humanity problem. Not a US, or UK or China, or EU problem.

In every country it seems as though the opposition "party" has seized on the opportunity to lay blame, point fingers, and make accusations for something that is essentially outside the control of any human at the present time. Infections numbers are rising in the US and the EU. Many of those infected in the US can't trance their infection back to a single event anymore. Some people get infected and die, while their spouse who shared a bed with them never even contracted the virus. There's no controlling something like that, so there's no blaming it on one person or party, or organization.

It's human nature to want someone to blame. We like to point fingers, make accusations, anoint scapegoats and elevate heroes.

I think we are reaching the point where people are so tired and worn out by it all that a large enough majority are going to say the hell with it and just do what they want. They will deal with the consequences whatever they are and move on with life.
99.74% overall survival rate in US. 99.99% if you’re under 50. If you’re under 18, a fraction of the pediatric seasonal flu death rate (itself 99.99 survival rate). All this even with significant over counting of “COVID-19 “ deaths (acknowledged by Dr. Birx) since CDC requires anyone who dies WITH virus to be counted, as opposed to FROM, resulting in car accident victims, heart attack, cancer, etc., and yes, gunshots, to be included in toll.
 
99.74% overall survival rate in US. 99.99% if you’re under 50. If you’re under 18, a fraction of the pediatric seasonal flu death rate (itself 99.99 survival rate). All this even with significant over counting of “COVID-19 “ deaths (acknowledged by Dr. Birx) since CDC requires anyone who dies WITH virus to be counted, as opposed to FROM, resulting in car accident victims, heart attack, cancer, etc., and yes, gunshots, to be included in toll.
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The UK should have faired far better than what they have done. Its an Island(s), so way more easier to isolate than land connected countries. Extremely poor effort.

Well, it's an island, but it's connected by a tunnel and many ferry links through which tens of thousands of trucks, vehicles, and trains pass every day. So not exactly isolated. And you can't just shut down those links without causing a lot of hardship, because the economy is tightly connected with that of the continent.

Further more, England is one of the most densely populated countries in the world. More crowding = easier transmission.
 
He's right. It's all BS. This virus is killing people that should statistically already be dead. We have almost 12,000,000 in my state and it's killed less than 500 under 60 years old, and that isn't even taking preexisting medical conditions into account.
You know how wrong you are, right?

Living with a pre-existing condition is living with a pre-existing condition. There's medicine for them that mitigate their effects and do so over the long term. Someone with stage 4 cancer given a week to live dying in a car accident on the way home from that appointment means the car accident killed them, cancer is a footnote.

It isn't rocket science. It only requires intellectual honesty.
 
99.74% overall survival rate in US. 99.99% if you’re under 50. If you’re under 18, a fraction of the pediatric seasonal flu death rate (itself 99.99 survival rate). All this even with significant over counting of “COVID-19 “ deaths (acknowledged by Dr. Birx) since CDC requires anyone who dies WITH virus to be counted, as opposed to FROM, resulting in car accident victims, heart attack, cancer, etc., and yes, gunshots, to be included in toll.

That you choose to spread such lies is just sad.
 
These shutdowns are for nothing more than oppressing the populace and politicians showing you just how much power they have over you (the prole). Your “side” isn’t winning, you’re just getting the oppression from people you like

While it is true that many governments world-wide introduce some form of restrictions on their populations, the fact is that the hospitals in many places are very busy and struggle to cope. In an ideal world this could have been avoided by being more careful after the initial lockdowns were lifted. Instead, people decided it was time to party to compensate for the previous lockdown’s deprivations. The result - health wise we are not doing well at all, anywhere. Thus we are imposed another set of restrictions and have no one else to blame but ourselves.
 
99.74% overall survival rate in US. 99.99% if you’re under 50. If you’re under 18, a fraction of the pediatric seasonal flu death rate (itself 99.99 survival rate). All this even with significant over counting of “COVID-19 “ deaths (acknowledged by Dr. Birx) since CDC requires anyone who dies WITH virus to be counted, as opposed to FROM, resulting in car accident victims, heart attack, cancer, etc., and yes, gunshots, to be included in toll.

Uh... no. Your math is off by many orders of magnitude.

9,280,000 infections. 231,000 reported deaths. Giving you the benefit of the doubt that all unresolved cases are survivals (because the actual correct math is resolved cases: survived against resolved cases: deaths) That's 231000 / 9280000 = 0.025. In order to make that a percentage, you need to multiply by 100... 2.5%.

And no, that's not how death certificates are filled out. They're all legitimate. And uhmm... heart failure is one of the impacts of COVID.
 
History will show that lockdownss only prolong the inevitable and prolong the misery. In the end, the virus will take the same number of people
That is only true if there is not a vaccine or other therapies developed for the disease.

There are multiple vaccine candidates moving through Phase 3 trials now and new therapies like Monoclonal antibody (which Trump got and we cannot yet). Hopefully, these will be available for most of us next year and 2021 will be different from this year.
 
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Uh... no. Your math is off by many orders of magnitude.

9,280,000 infections. 231,000 reported deaths. Giving you the benefit of the doubt that all unresolved cases are survivals (because the actual correct math is resolved cases: survived against resolved cases: deaths) That's 231000 / 9280000 = 0.025. In order to make that a percentage, you need to multiply by 100... 2.5%.

And no, that's not how death certificates are filled out. They're all legitimate. And uhmm... heart failure is one of the impacts of COVID.
The WHO estimated that 1/10 people globally had contracted it.
 
Hopefully this won't be the case (for July, at least!), as Covid cases should naturally decline after a winter peak. We already know from experience that infections decline greatly in the summer months. And, hopefully, vaccines will be beginning to have an effect on transmission rates by then.

Summer in the U.S. ran from June 20, 2020 to September 22, 2020.

Here's a look at how infections declined during those months.

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Funny how the coronavirus was weaponized and used by left-wing Democrat governors to oppress people in the United States, but the UK national government run by a right-wing government has shown it can play the same game. Reminds me of when George Bush had a right-wing war on Iraq and Tony Blair sold his as a left-wing one...

These shutdowns are for nothing more than oppressing the populace and politicians showing you just how much power they have over you (the prole). Your “side” isn’t winning, you’re just getting the oppression from people you like
Recognizes that politicians from both sides recognize the importance of selectively closing business and public places during outbreaks... and labels both as manipulative.

Sigh, you were *so close* to the truth, and yet!
 
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