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Security Update 2005-007 Released
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I know, and that's why I put theTupring said:
in the post in the first place, and specified it a bit later in my next post... Go back and look...
Just a Little Planning
It always amazes me to read about people who update their systems, have issues and then need to rebuild from zero.
It's always good to have a solid working backup plan, it's cheap and it saves you loads of time.
This is mine.
- One External Firewire Hard Drive (in my case a LaCie 80 gig)
- Before updating, repair permissions and then use Carbon Copy Cloner or another shareware application which will make a bootable copy of your system files and everything else.
- Update your system
Now you have an updated system and you have a copy of what your system was. If the update craps out (which I have never had happen) you can boot from the bootable copy of your system restore back to what you had and you're back in business.
Spend a little time and money have a solid backup plan and stick by it. It makes your life much much much much more simple.
And
Test your back up plan on occasion to make sure it is doing what you think it is. A little prevention saves you volumes of work down the road.
My update ran fine, the weather is nicer, I feel healthier, luckier and I am sure Safari will be ass loads faster when I get home from work today!
It always amazes me to read about people who update their systems, have issues and then need to rebuild from zero.
It's always good to have a solid working backup plan, it's cheap and it saves you loads of time.
This is mine.
- One External Firewire Hard Drive (in my case a LaCie 80 gig)
- Before updating, repair permissions and then use Carbon Copy Cloner or another shareware application which will make a bootable copy of your system files and everything else.
- Update your system
Now you have an updated system and you have a copy of what your system was. If the update craps out (which I have never had happen) you can boot from the bootable copy of your system restore back to what you had and you're back in business.
Spend a little time and money have a solid backup plan and stick by it. It makes your life much much much much more simple.
And
Test your back up plan on occasion to make sure it is doing what you think it is. A little prevention saves you volumes of work down the road.
My update ran fine, the weather is nicer, I feel healthier, luckier and I am sure Safari will be ass loads faster when I get home from work today!
Abstract said:I hate when people say they "think" their system is quicker after an OSX update. I can never tell. It's all in people's heads or something. And then they change their reply from "Opening apps is faster," or "My system boots a bit faster," or "Safari is definitely faster," to something a bit less exciting, like "My system feels zippier," which we all know is bulls***.
Am I right?
I think there's an aspect of truth to what you are saying. I rationalize it by saying that when many people do these updates, they Repair Permissions first, then reboot, install, and then possibly Repair Permissions and reboot again - so of course your system is going to appear faster after a cleaning like that, especially if you've been running it for a few days/weeks/months solid!
Installed the security update on my 1999-vintage G4 sawtooth - which runs 10.4.2 and has been 'upgraded' with additional ATI 7000 64Mb PCI video card, Pioneer 104 superdrive and Mercury 1GHz G4 upgrade. Prompt shutdown and reboot after install and all is well.
I can't say I expected any different since I have never really had any issues after an update. But given this system is a bit non-standard, I couldn't help but cross my fingers!
I can't say I expected any different since I have never really had any issues after an update. But given this system is a bit non-standard, I couldn't help but cross my fingers!
Dual 2.5 G5 running Tiger 10.4.2, good to go. No applications issues so far. Permissions repair after the install only fixed up something in the Widget library folder.
First Time...
I've ever had a problem with an update (I don't have any hacks installed) on my powerbook. I installed the update, rebooted, and now Aqua won't load. It boots up and I get a termial window. That's it. I can log in, but no GUI. It's weird, I've tried a few things, repaired permissions, etc., without success. I will try a few more things tonight, but I may have to re-install the OS, bummer.
I've ever had a problem with an update (I don't have any hacks installed) on my powerbook. I installed the update, rebooted, and now Aqua won't load. It boots up and I get a termial window. That's it. I can log in, but no GUI. It's weird, I've tried a few things, repaired permissions, etc., without success. I will try a few more things tonight, but I may have to re-install the OS, bummer.
No problems on my Power Mac G4 (733mhz). After installing on my iBook G3 (500mhz), it wouldn't start back up. I got a blank gray screen (with no Apple on it).
I just started with 'Option' held down, reiterated what I wanted for my boot drive, and then things went back to normal (even after further reboots).
A little weird, but nothing too major. Everything else seems fine.
I just started with 'Option' held down, reiterated what I wanted for my boot drive, and then things went back to normal (even after further reboots).
A little weird, but nothing too major. Everything else seems fine.
Actually, this happened to me a few days ago. No matter what I tried I couldn't get aqua up. My hard disk was in a bad way, couldn't repair so had to re-format and reinstall. (Could still pull on the necessary files off thoughwhawho said:
)Went all fine with my iMac G5 1.8GHz, nothing weird after restarting.
I'd say it's wizzier, but it might be just an impression, and nobody likes this kind of comments here
Anyway, I reformatted/reinstalled everything last week-end, and everything is faster...
The backup comments are not useless.
I've dedicated a 80Gb hard drive for that (which is most of the time at my work, so that the computer AND the backup cannot be stolen together ! Or really unlucky day...)
I'll fix up a copy of the system, because resetting everything step by step is kinda boring...
A.
(PS: The backup-paranoia appeared with the digital camera; I don't mind (too much) losing my iTunes library, but I can't think about losing my photos...)
I'd say it's wizzier, but it might be just an impression, and nobody likes this kind of comments here
Anyway, I reformatted/reinstalled everything last week-end, and everything is faster...
The backup comments are not useless.
I've dedicated a 80Gb hard drive for that (which is most of the time at my work, so that the computer AND the backup cannot be stolen together ! Or really unlucky day...)
I'll fix up a copy of the system, because resetting everything step by step is kinda boring...
A.
(PS: The backup-paranoia appeared with the digital camera; I don't mind (too much) losing my iTunes library, but I can't think about losing my photos...)
If everyone installs starting when the update is released, you'd naturally expect people who sail through it to finish, and post, before the people who run into roadblocks.Abstract said:Why did we get 3 pages of very few complaints, and then we get a barrage of errors happening on Page 4 of this thread?
We don't know for certain that the users having problems after this update wouldn't have had the same problems if they had done a shutdown and restart, even if they had not installed the Security Update. I'm not saying that's the case, just that we don't know. Sometimes latent problems that occur while the system is running show up only when you restart. I wonder if it would be a good habit in general to restart a Mac and make sure things look fine (your regular applications are there and work fine) before installing a Mac OS X update, to separate the two types of problems.
Abstract said:I hate when people say they "think" their system is quicker after an OSX update. I can never tell. It's all in people's heads or something. And then they change their reply from "Opening apps is faster," or "My system boots a bit faster," or "Safari is definitely faster," to something a bit less exciting, like "My system feels zippier," which we all know is bulls***.
Am I right?
I think so. I could never tell either. I think I would only notice if an update gave a considerable slow down to my computer. All good here
hob said:Actually, this happened to me a few days ago. No matter what I tried I couldn't get aqua up. My hard disk was in a bad way, couldn't repair so had to re-format and reinstall. (Could still pull on the necessary files off though
If I can't get it fixed, I'll boot into FireWire Target Disk Mode (hopefully) and pull all the files off that way.
wwooden said:
*shrugs* I've come to the conclusion that its pure chance. Everyone keeps bitching about Windows when in fact I have 5 windows XP/2000/Server 2003 systems in my home and I NEVER get any problems. Yet just yesterday a friend found that Windows isn't holding reg values anymore and some of the changes he makes to his system doesn't stick on reboot.
I think its all about the user and how they manage their system. *shrugs* Whatever.