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Security Update 2005-007 Released
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Darwin said:I was on a roll with 31 days, but I guess its back to zero now
We have too many thunderstorms here in Dallas for me to get uptimes that long, so far. Maybe I'll dig out my old UPS.
Also, my mac mini seems to be fine after the update. I don't move my apps (they're in the app folder already, come on) and I prefer FireFox and Thunderbird to Safari and Mail, anyway. And many of the updates don't apply anyway unless you're running Server or some other version I'm not running, which is 10.4.2...
Well...
In the end I tried installing the 10.3.9 updater again, nothing happeded. My final solution was to reinstall from my 10.3.2 DVDs. I spent most of the morning updating everything.
That backup strategy with the 80 gig external is sounding better and better...
In the end I tried installing the 10.3.9 updater again, nothing happeded. My final solution was to reinstall from my 10.3.2 DVDs. I spent most of the morning updating everything.
That backup strategy with the 80 gig external is sounding better and better...
You want long uptimes?
My company in one of its former incantations provided a fault tolerant UNIX platform used in the telephony area. The uptime counter was a 32 bit unsigned integer that measured the number of "ticks" (1/100th of a second) since the last reboot. The problem is that the systems were up continuously so long (for years actually) that it caused the uptime counter to roll over. Not a bad reliability problem to have, eh? What a hoot....ham_man said:I had no problem with 10.3.8...
Holy crap. I thought that my 13 day record was something to be proud of...
I haven't had any problem with this update. Glad it fixed a lot of buffer errors...
ummm I'm having problems with this, it's stuck on optimizing system performance, I can't back up any files (Even though all the files I care about are on the external anyways) I can't access the external drive, and I can't quit the program... Should I restart and pray?
artifex said:
Been there did that read the book.
I think a windows update FUBARed the thing. He's getting a new puter in about 3 months anyways. Holding out until then. The current system is kinda sketchy to begin with. Kinda a home brewed hacked together job.Applespider said:
I stopped experimenting and playing around after I almost killed my Performa 6400 when I was seven years old. I haven't done anything that would cause this - it was totally not good. I'm about to install that SAME update again. Wish me better luck.
Java semi-broken?
After installing 2005-007, the following Java problem turned up:
> java -version
HotSpot not at correct virtual address. Sharing disabled.
java version "1.5.0_02"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_02-56)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_02-36, mixed mode)
I use java every day and this was definitely not happening before. It doesn't actually break Java, since class sharing is just an optimisation, but it is annoying.
An inspection of the JavaVM.framework directory seems to indicate there was a Java modification in the security update:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 38K Aug 16 09:57 /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/A/JavaVM*
Aug 16 09:57 is of course the exact time at which I installed the update.
BTW, no, I do not have any third-party OS X mods.
Anyone else get this behaviour?
After installing 2005-007, the following Java problem turned up:
> java -version
HotSpot not at correct virtual address. Sharing disabled.
java version "1.5.0_02"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_02-56)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_02-36, mixed mode)
I use java every day and this was definitely not happening before. It doesn't actually break Java, since class sharing is just an optimisation, but it is annoying.
An inspection of the JavaVM.framework directory seems to indicate there was a Java modification in the security update:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 38K Aug 16 09:57 /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/A/JavaVM*
Aug 16 09:57 is of course the exact time at which I installed the update.
BTW, no, I do not have any third-party OS X mods.
Anyone else get this behaviour?
2005-007 and 64-bit-native apps
I just received a helpful email from the tech support people at Wolfram Research advising me not to install 2005-007 on my G5, because it prevents 64-bit-native apps like Mathematica 5.2 from running. They had a work around script developed which could rescue someone who had already done the deed. The script temporarily disables the 64 bit capability of Mathematica.
This was good timing for me, as I was just about to update my G5, which is only used for Mathematica. The update works fine on my Powerbook G4, except for Sherlock, which lost my stocks and switched to German.
I just received a helpful email from the tech support people at Wolfram Research advising me not to install 2005-007 on my G5, because it prevents 64-bit-native apps like Mathematica 5.2 from running. They had a work around script developed which could rescue someone who had already done the deed. The script temporarily disables the 64 bit capability of Mathematica.
This was good timing for me, as I was just about to update my G5, which is only used for Mathematica. The update works fine on my Powerbook G4, except for Sherlock, which lost my stocks and switched to German.
Alls well with the world
Just downloaded the update on my 1.5 powerbook 17" and all seems perfect. I always repair permissions twice and then restart and do it again. Then update. Call me crazy but I have never had any problems with updates so I will stick with my routine. Hope all is as smooth for everyone else.
Just downloaded the update on my 1.5 powerbook 17" and all seems perfect. I always repair permissions twice and then restart and do it again. Then update. Call me crazy but I have never had any problems with updates so I will stick with my routine.
Hope all is as smooth for everyone else.caution!!!!!!!
i don't know if this is related to the update but here's what happened: i went to software update, selected download only for the update, opened it in the packages folder, installed it, restarted and here's where things started to suck. when i restarted i got to the grey screen with the apple and the spinning start up thing. and then it just sat there, and sat there, and sat there. i tried waiting an hour, but to no avail. i finally had to reinstall mac os x from the tiger cd. (archive and install of course) and then i got my computer back and running. i still haven't installed the update since, and i'm not sure i'm ready. hope this doesn't happen to you but just be warned
i don't know if this is related to the update but here's what happened: i went to software update, selected download only for the update, opened it in the packages folder, installed it, restarted and here's where things started to suck. when i restarted i got to the grey screen with the apple and the spinning start up thing. and then it just sat there, and sat there, and sat there. i tried waiting an hour, but to no avail. i finally had to reinstall mac os x from the tiger cd. (archive and install of course) and then i got my computer back and running. i still haven't installed the update since, and i'm not sure i'm ready. hope this doesn't happen to you but just be warned
SiliconAddict said:
I do too -- except I think the odds are against you with Windows. For instance: the other day, WindowsXP (fiancee's machine) auto-updated itself into a non-bootable state. Fine... so I took the spare HD out of my B&W, switched cables, installed Windows XP on the G3's drive. I then copied all of the files from her account over to the spare hard drive, took the original hard drive out and stuck it in the G3.
So, just to clarify, this is exactly what occured:
1. Switched current hard drive to slave, installed new hard drive as master.
2. Installed Windows XP. With attendant reboots, as necessary.
3. Copied files.
4. Powered down computer, removed slave drive, moved it to G3.
5. Booted PC.
So what greets me upon startup? XP no longer has icons in Explorer when in the double-pane mode (ie, when I right-click "Start" and press "Explore"). No icons anywhere in explorer. Even the titlebar doesn't have them. However, it behaves normally if I right-click "Start" and press "Open." (Note that Windows doesn't have native drivers for her wireless lan card, so it wasn't on the 'net yet)
Windows still operated fine, so I transferred the drivers over, installed them, rebooted (problem persisted). Only after installing SP2 did the problem resolve itself.
Weird.
For those who get terminal prompts .... have you tried typing "exit" at the prompt? It sounds fairly obvious, but I remember being surprised at this when I got dropped off at a black and white screen once.
pubwvj said:
I never had any problems with those and I imagine most people didn't either. IME it's the people that hack about with their system or are running cruddy 3rd party hardware that have problems. Stick to quality kit from the major companies like Apple, Lacie, HP etc and you rarely get any problems.
Mac_Freak said:It is kind of a nice that Apple test their own OS for holes, rather than waiting for hackers to find them; unlike Microsoft.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302163
From what I've read from Apple's description of what was fixed, and what I read on TechNet, I'd say both companies rely just as much on third parties to make the company aware of holes in its OS.
These particular security updates have had many in academic circles and elsewhere point out flaws in the Mac OS.
WARNING !!!!!
This^%#@#@()*&&^ security has completely shut down my dual 1.8 G5 - what a mess - this is my main computer for the business. It will not wake up from sleep - I powered it off - then on - cursor shows up but nothing on the desk top - not even my standard Apple screen - no icons. WTF have you done Apple????????????
This^%#@#@()*&&^ security has completely shut down my dual 1.8 G5 - what a mess - this is my main computer for the business. It will not wake up from sleep - I powered it off - then on - cursor shows up but nothing on the desk top - not even my standard Apple screen - no icons. WTF have you done Apple????????????
