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Security Update Breaks Ethernet Port on iMacs and MacBook Pros [Updated]
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He will build a wall around China...
But my Ethernet works.
I have no version of that configuration data at all.
Apples support sheet says that if you have the bad one you have to go download the good one. I don't have any instance of installation of the bad one.
Yes and if he/she cares to look at the back of the router he/she is using to access the internet at least one of the RJ45 ports will be in use......but there you go
I used to trust Apple updates to have gone thru some form of quality control and testing. Not anymore.
Wish I could say I'm shocked, but I'm very used to this by Apple now.
Their QA has gone downhill so much that I have a hard time justifying sending Apple bug reports, because in my experience they are so slow to answer (and very generically at that), that it spawns more frustration than it helps.
Long story short: if I was still on Windows-only today, I wouldn't switch over anymore.
I can get the lack of software polish for much less.
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Sorry, I misread your post.
So you have working Ethernet? What led you to post in this thread then? If you're experiencing no connectivity problems then roll with it, man!
Don't go turning over rocks unless you want to find maggots.I agree QA has eroded significantly at Apple over the past few years, but Microsoft isn't much better. Windows 10 has pushed background updates that should have been more throughly vetted, such as updates that conflict with popular video drivers that leaves some users without a useable GPU.
No matter what system I'm running, I'm taking a more active effort to disable automatic updates completely and researching what they'll do to my devices before clicking the "Update" button. Microsoft makes this much more difficult for users than Apple.
I agree, without the reliability and stability that Apple had in the past, there would not be any reasons for me to switch away from Windows as well.
But the key thing is this: Long story short: if I was still on Windows-only today, I wouldn't switch over anymore.
If Apple can't be reliable like it used to be that convinced me to switch to Mac more than a decade ago, I also wouldn't switch away from Windows. I rather suffer on Windows than on Apple and spent less money on cheaper hardware. For the amount of money spent, I expect far more vetted tested software than I'm seeing in the last 5 years alone.
W10 is actually a decent OS, I like it and it is more stable than Mavericks was for sure. El Cap caught up a bit and Apple needs to get back on the right track soon in the next versions of iOS and OS X.
One thing for sure, Windows 10 is much faster than El Cap on the same hardware.
Well, here are some links for your perusal.
Apple iMac Wallpaper
http://www.apple-art.com/Desktop-New-27-quot-iMac-wallpaper_11291541.html <---- Moraine Lake
I think Apple probably did test the update.
Either they didn't test whether the update affected Ethernet (because their test units use WiFi), or they did, and their test systems did not experience the problem.
No, they did not. First, they had to add Ethernet kext to the blacklist manually, which means they know it is related to Ethernet and therefore, they should've known in advance to test it on ethernet cards.
1. They should be testing with all interfaces, not just Wi-Fi/ethernet, they should also be testing USB network adapters and more.
2. Extremely not likely it didn't affect their test systems or they need to expand the number of Macs. Considering how fast this hits everyone and on various Macs, it is not possible their own test machines didn't catch it or they failed to apply the update to the test machines properly, in which case, they still didn't test to see if it was applied correctly.
I do understand that is virtually impossible to catch all edge cases and QA is difficult and time-consuming but this one was an easy one to catch and should've been implemented in their QA process properly.
I never have done automatic updates and wait for awhile before doing them. What I don't understand is this one came onto my computer without my consent. How do I prevent that in the future?
Do people still use ethernet in 2016??
Yes; anyone who knows anything about building networks. Don't get me wrong, WiFi is fine for many purposes, especially in the home, but wired-networks have a LOT of significant advantages.
Haha! Thank god it's that then! My iMac's ethernet stopped working yesterday. I dualboot with Windows and that still worked fine with ethernet so I knew it wasn't a hardware problem (my iMac is from 2011 so anything goes!). This is a load off my mind. Wifi is okay but I find it too slow and intermittent, I like the reliability of ethernet.
So I'm confused on one date it says the bad version 3.28.1 but 2 days later it shows 3.28.2 but I did test my plug and it doesn't work.
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not really
Hence the quotation marks. I was being sarcastic. It was boring - like all those sort of posts.
Sorry, I misread your post.
So you have working Ethernet? What led you to post in this thread then? If you're experiencing no connectivity problems then roll with it, man!
I figured it out. I don't have auto updates for security patches installed so these kinds of updates never show in my installation list. I assume they're just bundled with OS X updates when I do those.
I still don't understand how mine downloaded both versions. The bad one on Friday and the good one tonight but didn't fix the issue until I did the apple support method through terminal
The Mac OS is quite stable (certainly no less so than Windows) and, critically for me, much more secure. Also, its UNIX kernel makes is much easier for a dilettante like me to dig under the hood a little bit. I'd rather eat sawdust than contend with MS-DOS.
Yup, in order for Outlook to stop popping up to tell me to re-enter the passwords.Do people still use ethernet in 2016??
I believe that it's the option in Sys Prefs > App Store called "automatically install security updates and system files" (or something to that effect).