Selling my Macs

[mkelly]

I'm about to sell my 2015 rmbp and 2015 rmb. I've fallen totally in love with my Microsoft Surface Pro 4 and Surface 3. They are so superior to the Macs and Windows 10 is far more flexibile than OSX. As for the Surfaces, light, fast, touch screen, 2 in 1. Apple has fallen SO far behind. I know all the fan bois will attack me, but hey....

Well you *are* asking for an attack by tossing around the "fan boi" label, and making comments about the superiority of one platform over the other. However, instead of attacking, I'm going to drop some advice instead.

No platform is inherently superior to another across all users and all use cases. You're probably too young to remember the days when you'd walk into a computer store and you could pick from Apple, Atari, IBM, Commodore (and to a lesser extent, Texas Instruments and RadioShack machines). Back then, when people were overwhelmed with choice we would tell them: "Don't buy the computer to do the job you want. Buy the software you need and the computer will follow".

For you, it sounds like Windows has filled a need that OS X / macOS didn't. That's the case for many people. Microsoft (since Steve Ballmer left) has made great strides again. I've got a Surface Pro 3 and a Dell XPS 15 that I tinker with from time to time and I really like a lot of what Microsoft has been doing recently.

That said, you and I have very different needs. Much as I might be tempted to switch to Windows 10 because of certain features, there are many, many other aspects to macOS that I prefer. As a unix system administrator and software developer, a Mac is a "superior" machine to a Windows box... for me. Other developers may feel differently. I also spend long amounts of time untethered and both the Surface Pro 3 and Dell XPS 15's batteries aren't up to the task compared to my 2016 MBP (the fault of the touchscreen and the 4K display in the Dell's case). But on the flip side, the Dell is a "superior" gaming machine over any of my Macs.

Diversity is good. Celebrate it, and I honestly hope you enjoy your new Windows 10 experience.

 

[zarathu]

I went back to PC primarily a year ago and I have no regrets. The only issue is that having a mac is still necessary for me to compile iOS apps.

Then paying for the new system updates, and the spying by MS., and all the deficiencies of windows are not important to you in what you do. Good for you. I'm not sure why you might have switched to a Mac in the first place. Could you explain that?
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I'm about to sell my 2015 rmbp and 2015 rmb. I've fallen totally in love with my Microsoft Surface Pro 4 and Surface 3. They are so superior to the Macs and Windows 10 is far more flexibile than OSX. As for the Surfaces, light, fast, touch screen, 2 in 1. Apple has fallen SO far behind. I know all the fan bois will attack me, but hey....

I have been involved with Apple since my Apple 2 clone in 1987---30 years ago. I also have and still own a linux ubuntu and Windows(xp, and 10) machine. But recently, because a) I felt like I was falling into the backwater of computing progress, and b) H & R Block no longer accepted Snow Leopard for the income taxes, I was forced to upgrade first to El Capitan and then to OS Sierra. This is a huge jump: Snow Leopard->Lion->Mountain Lion->Mavericks->Yosemite->El Capitan->Sierra. So I bought Pogue's book on El Capitan(THE MISSING MANUAL SERIES). I discovered that the Mac interface is way way deeper and way way more customizable that I was ever aware IN MORE THAN 30 YEARS OF USING APPLE.

My suspicion is that people who come here from the Windows Microsoft world don't buy a book like Pogue's 850 page tome(THE MISSING MANUAL SERIES), and so they think that the Mac is not as adjustable as Windows, and they never find out what it can really do. And so their experience is less than it could be, and they go back to what they knew from before.

 

[iMi]

don't waste time selling them! just send them to me and I'll take care for them with love, kindness and understanding. also I promise to enjoy using them (with mac OS) very much!

what do you think about my offer ? just say yes and I'm sending you mailing address
remember! I'll take care for them with love, kindness and understanding! there is no better deal...

Mhmm... until a younger, thinner and better looking MacBook shows up. She will be sleeker and sexier and she'll smell like the mix of fresh new silicone and the inside of an Apple Store.

Then this "loved, understood and cared for little laptop" will have an "accident." Or worse yet, will be found filling out website queries in the ally behind the gas station just to get by. She will be alone, cold, and lonely. Forgotten, with smudges on her screen and dents all over her body. Yearning for just one more keystroke.

We know your type, sir. We know.

 

[zarathu]

Then this "loved, understood and cared for little laptop" will have an "accident." Or worse yet, will be found filling out website queries in the ally behind the gas station just to get by. She will be alone, cold, and lonely. Forgotten, with smudges on her screen and dents all over her body. Yearning for just one more keystroke.

We know your type, sir. We know.

YOU MEAN LIKE THE IKEA LAMP out on the curb for the garbage. What a tear jerker commercial that was!

 

[wolfaaron]

Then paying for the new system updates, and the spying by MS., and all the deficiencies of windows are not important to you in what you do. Good for you. I'm not sure why you might have switched to a Mac in the first place. Could you explain that?
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I have been involved with Apple since my Apple 2 clone in 1987---30 years ago. I also have and still own a linux ubuntu and Windows(xp, and 10) machine. But recently, because a) I felt like I was falling into the backwater of computing progress, and b) H & R Block no longer accepted Snow Leopard for the income taxes, I was forced to upgrade first to El Capitan and then to OS Sierra. This is a huge jump: Snow Leopard->Lion->Mountain Lion->Mavericks->Yosemite->El Capitan->Sierra. So I bought Pogue's book on El Capitan(THE MISSING MANUAL SERIES). I discovered that the Mac interface is way way deeper and way way more customizable that I was ever aware IN MORE THAN 30 YEARS OF USING APPLE.

My suspicion is that people who come here from the Windows Microsoft world don't buy a book like Pogue's 850 page tome(THE MISSING MANUAL SERIES), and so they think that the Mac is not as adjustable as Windows, and they never find out what it can really do. And so their experience is less than it could be, and they go back to what they knew from before.

I switched to the Mac because my school offered me a voucher that lowered the price of the Mac and they also offered free courses on iOS development. From then on I relied on my Macbook as my traveling computer while outside and my compiler while at home.

Also, I'm not sure what deficiencies of paying for Microsoft system updates you're referring to. I've been happy with my PC. It cost me $750 to build and is more powerful than the most expensive computer Apple sells. I use it for work and entertainment.

 

[Plutonius]

I'm about to sell my 2015 rmbp and 2015 rmb. I've fallen totally in love with my Microsoft Surface Pro 4 and Surface 3. They are so superior to the Macs and Windows 10 is far more flexibile than OSX. As for the Surfaces, light, fast, touch screen, 2 in 1. Apple has fallen SO far behind. I know all the fan bois will attack me, but hey....

There is a forum section dedicated for selling computers and such (i.e. you probably shouldn't be advertising them here). You should also list the price you want if you expect to get a reasonable offer.

 

[zaaach48]

I'm about to sell my 2015 rmbp and 2015 rmb. I've fallen totally in love with my Microsoft Surface Pro 4 and Surface 3. They are so superior to the Macs and Windows 10 is far more flexibile than OSX. As for the Surfaces, light, fast, touch screen, 2 in 1. Apple has fallen SO far behind. I know all the fan bois will attack me, but hey....

nice advertisement....don't care bye

 

[zarathu]

I switched to the Mac because my school offered me a voucher that lowered the price of the Mac and they also offered free courses on iOS development. From then on I relied on my Macbook as my traveling computer while outside and my compiler while at home.

Also, I'm not sure what deficiencies of paying for Microsoft system updates you're referring to. I've been happy with my PC. It cost me $750 to build and is more powerful than the most expensive computer Apple sells. I use it for work and entertainment.

Ahhh.... it never works when someone else forces one to do something they don't want to do. You were always a PC guy who was forced by your school to move in a direction you never really wanted to go. Perfectly understandable. BTW I have a copy of windows 10, but unless I pay for it, I cannot use any of the modifications. And now its not free at all. A full version of Windows 10 is now $119(http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/5/11595952/microsoft-windows-10-upgrade-price-reminder). Apple hasn't charged for a system update in ages.

 

[wolfaaron]

Ahhh.... it never works when someone else forces one to do something they don't want to do. You were always a PC guy who was forced by your school to move in a direction you never really wanted to go. Perfectly understandable. BTW I have a copy of windows 10, but unless I pay for it, I cannot use any of the modifications. And now its not free at all. A full version of Windows 10 is now $119(http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/5/11595952/microsoft-windows-10-upgrade-price-reminder). Apple hasn't charged for a system update in ages.

I'm using a windows 7 key on my windows 10 OS from an upgrade so I have no idea what you're ever referring to.

And no it wasn't by force. I had an old windows XP laptop ar the time and I was already helping develop for Android during its very early ages around late 2009. I loved the Mac laptop and only tried it because I got it at a low price.

But now I'm back to PC and am no longer a fanboy due to the poor specs for such a ridiculous price. The only thing keeping a foot in the Mac OS ecosystem is the need to use Xcode.

 

[zarathu]

OK. Well then have fun with your new PC in windows world. I hope it works out for you. You can now be a fanboy for MS.

 

[wolfaaron]

OK. Well then have fun with your new PC in windows world. I hope it works out for you. You can now be a fanboy for MS.

Lol not everything is black and white like in your world. I bought a new Mac because I still need to make money selling iOS apps

 

[Rok73]

That's it, I'm off to XBox. Oh, wait...

 

[David58117]

I'm about to sell my 2015 rmbp and 2015 rmb. I've fallen totally in love with my Microsoft Surface Pro 4 and Surface 3. They are so superior to the Macs and Windows 10 is far more flexibile than OSX. As for the Surfaces, light, fast, touch screen, 2 in 1. Apple has fallen SO far behind. I know all the fan bois will attack me, but hey....

NNNNNOOOoo!!!!

 

[Gasu E.]

I want to sell our Volvo and buy a Mercedes, but I'm having trouble finding a Volvo forum where I can tell a load of random people, who probably couldn't care less, about my intentions.

Anyone know of a suitable forum so I can actually get on with it?

I hereby attack you for selling your Volvo. Get lost, Mercedes-head.