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1. Both Called "Mac Pro"
2. Erm....
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Separate MR forum for new (2013) Mac Pro?
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It's faster to list similarities between the two machines.
1. Both Called "Mac Pro"
2. Erm....
The Powerbook G4 and Powerbook G3 had basically nothing in coming except for USB and Firewire ports.
I can only speak for myself, but I've lost a lot of interest in reading the Mac Pro forum with all the overlap in there. The new machine is unique, and needs to have an independent sub-forum at the very least, but maybe the powers that be just want to see the traffic decline. It makes their jobs easier, so I can understand why they wouldn't care to take the time to make things better. 
I'm voting for separate. As an owner it's frustrating looking though threads that have absolutely nothing to do with my computer, even though it's the same name. I'd hate to add just bloat anywhere, but this would actually be a useful addition to owners. It prevents the regular MP forum in to getting too sloppy.
Ok, what would you suggest the new forums or sub forums be named as that would be the difficult part. Don't forget you probably need to rename both to differentiate.
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Maybe Box and Tube?
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Does this discussion have any teeth? Are we wasting bandwidth here, or is this fruitful? I mean, what influence, if any, do we have over how the owners organize the forums?
We generally do not create new sub-forums for updates to an existing Apple product category.
I think the last time we had a similar discussion was at the time of the Retina MacBook Pro release. This post from forum administrator annk explains why we decided not to add a separate sub-forum and I think it's still applicable to the current Mac Pro situation.
The subjects that are likely to interest an oMP owner are not likely to interest a nMP owner.
PCIe cards are of little interest to a nMP owner.
Thunderbolt disks (etc.) are of little interest to an oMP owner.
If you look at the top page of the Mac Pro forum, almost half of the posts are oMP specific, and almost half are nMP specific. The remainder are more general interest.
Seems like a good candidate for a split, to me.
PCIe cards are of little interest to a nMP owner.
Thunderbolt disks (etc.) are of little interest to an oMP owner.
If you look at the top page of the Mac Pro forum, almost half of the posts are oMP specific, and almost half are nMP specific. The remainder are more general interest.
Seems like a good candidate for a split, to me.
The moderators appear to be stubborn
or they are trying to save themselves some work. This won't change unless you can get more support. I would like to join a different forum but would hate to lose the expert advice offered here. Maybe you should take a poll?
or they are trying to save themselves some work. This won't change unless you can get more support. I would like to join a different forum but would hate to lose the expert advice offered here. Maybe you should take a poll?
Why does this forum mix old and new Mac Pro??
Other than name they have nothing in common. Why isn't there a new Mac Pro forum?
Other than name they have nothing in common. Why isn't there a new Mac Pro forum?
How else would people constantly bicker about PCI-e slots, the nMP being marginally faster then the cMP, being able to run CUDA workloads, how OpenCL is going to take over the industry, etc?...
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Same reason there's just one forum for all the Macbook Pros. The current retina model has little in common with the 2007 model but they're all represented there. It's only when the traffic gets too high on a particular forum that it makes sense to split it into different forums.
Because that's what they do is the reason? It doesn't make any sense for those forums either.
No car forum lumps current bmw or fords with those of the previous generation.
These aren't cars that are updated every year.
I own a rMBP and I'm not asking for a separate forum for my model from the rest of the MBPs.
I own a rMBP and I'm not asking for a separate forum for my model from the rest of the MBPs.
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Yeah, but they don't create a new subforum for every change each year either.
Exactly. Slow sub-forums are death and ruin the userbase. I've seen it so, so, often as a user, moderator and admin on sites of all sizes (dozens to thousands of "currently active" users). While there may be technical differences, the majority of people are trying to do similar tasks and have single CPU Mac Pros with 4-6 cores.
There is a lot of knowledge that applies to Pro users of both systems, as well as potential buyers of the new one, that comes from those who would likely only visit the classic Mac Pro sub-forum if it was split.
There is also the oft asked question of "upgrade or new", where does that get asked? Both forums, and the buyers forum just to be sure?
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A statement like this presumes that quantity of traffic is the only reason one might split a forum.
And this is not likely to be a problem for separate Mac Pro forums for quite some time.
On the other hand, the documented frustration involved in sifting through all the old Mac Pro articles is making me (and presumably others) look elsewhere for new Mac Pro information and discussion. That should be of interest to MacRumors folks.
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