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Series 6 redesign?
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I doubt very much the form will change after only 2 years, likely at least 3. Next year’s low hanging fruit:
1. Battery life improvements tied to allowing sleep tracking.
2. Charge speed improvements.
3. Blood oxygen level measurements (Fitbit Garmin already have this using the rear sensor suite).
4. 24/7 1 sec recording of HR vs every 5-10 minutes in the current generation outside of exercise.
1. Battery life improvements tied to allowing sleep tracking.
2. Charge speed improvements.
3. Blood oxygen level measurements (Fitbit Garmin already have this using the rear sensor suite).
4. 24/7 1 sec recording of HR vs every 5-10 minutes in the current generation outside of exercise.
Yes the same company that once upon a time only made one size iPhone cause...courage.
That would probably make me upgrade from my Series 4. The Series 5 "improvements" just don't float my boat, they're software changes that will most likely come with the Watch OS6, or soon thereafter.
Size isn’t form. In fact, iPhone form support my point. Apple don’t change its product form. They iterate. The watch already has 2 sizes. We’re talking about “form” here, changing from square to circular.
(PS: they changed if the products not successful, like Mac Pro., but never on successful products)
Oh I like the idea of the always on screen a ton... but not enough to trade in my $750 SBSS S4 to Apple for $110! just to buy the nearly identical series 5.
iPhone changed form.
We are talking about watches. Go to a watch store and see what sells. That’s money left on the table. Apple know this but want to sell everyone a square watch first so they can milk their money once they release a round. Round is coming.
Apple hasn't made any core product before that wasn't basically a computer screen.
You're essentially saying that Apple will not make round watches ever because they have always made rectangular Mac screens. Or that they won't make round matches ever because they use white earphones as a marketing tool.
Apple's traditional lineup:
Desktop computer
Laptop
Tablet
Monitor
These are all limited to being a rectangular design, so the screens have maintained the same form, (although the actual casing forms have changed significantly) as has every other company in the industry. iPods are the exception though they're not a wearable and being round makes them worse to hold.
Watches are a wearable that are typically preferred in a round format - just look at sales globally. You can buy square and rectangular and oval watches, but people prefer the round aesthetic. Apple is new to this space and we don't know where it will end up. We just know they're doing it in the most practical way to start with. They're trying to cram in a lot of tech and the round shape isn't the best way to do that. They would need to increase the device size, and Apple are always cautious with that. They were one of the last onto the phablet fad, and many people here on MR said Apple will never make one. Now it's the norm and people don't even say phablet any more. It's just phone. There is no way you or I can say that Apple will be limited to creating rectangular watches forever because their Macs were always rectangular.
If you asked people years ago if Apple would make an Hermes Edition Watch you'd have been laughed at as some sort of delusional idiot. Apple follow market forces and the round watch is inevitable. No one with any sense listens to anything Apple says about what they will or won't do, or what they do or don't like. They say what suits their product lineup at that moment in time and to cast shade on competitors. They're shameless in doing U-Turns.
When they do it, it'll be a massive deal and selling point. People will flock to it and Apple will call it magical.
It'll be the 'best Apple Watch Apple has ever made'.
Until the next year.
No, I’m saying Apple will not make a round watch because they’re making a square watch. (Who knows about “ever” but I can bet there’s more chance Apple will give you a yellow AirPods than a round watch in a next 3 years)
Why? If you understand design you’ll understand. When Apple design their products they design it to be “an icon”, an easily recognized subject. A signature of the company so to speak. Apple Watch is not only “an” Apple product, it’s also the market leading one. Changing the form of market leading product not only do away an icon but will create confusion as well.
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No, it’s not. Don’t be silly.
Its form is still rectangular with round corner (almost always with the same exact proportion of round corner in every generations as well)
The correct way to say is Apple ‘iterate’ (not change) iPhone design (not form).
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Apple Watch isn't iconic. It's just another rectangular smartwatch. They were so late into the market that they had no real way to distinguish themselves with an iconic product. It looks naff generally. I didn't even want one until S3 and they finally stuck GPS in it iirc.
Not every Apple product can be iconic especially now we're in the wearable era. Those days are long since gone. They've tried to keep this iconic design idea going yes, I agree, with a couple of products, and it fell flat. Their stupid speakers and the previous Mac Pro. Pathetic sales.
Apple follow as much as they lead these days with product choice and design. No-one's getting confused about a round Apple Watch, ever. This is the sort of pseud marketing rule that you find on 'guru' blogs.
Apple follow market forces, when they're ready to. That's the only rule I can determine.
It’s already iconic. When people see square smart watch they will think of Apple Watch somehow.
Apple will follow market forces only after the Advertising department feels that they have convinced the majority of the public that they absolutely NEED the <insert "feature" here>. Until then, Apple will continue to lead with the same <insert feature here> that they already have, touting it as absolutely necessary.
we've been talking about this for 5 years now. a circle is terrible for information display. not happening
I always find posts like this highly amusing, how can you say my opinion makes no sense, perhaps it’s just that you don’t understand it? After all, it is my opinion and it makes perfect sense to me.
Maybe if I explain a little further.
One of the early round Watches was the Moto 360.
A nice looking watch but a lot of wasted screen.
Whilst I don’t think the Apple Watch is as attractive as a conventional round watch it is useful to have the near edge to edge screen in the shape we have now.
I’m one of those that likes a smart watch to display as much information & functionality on the screen at once.
Having not upgraded to WatchOS 6 yet, I use Infograph Modular at the moment as it gives me Time & Date, Calendar and room for 3 additional Complications.
That’s a lot of info on one screen and without looking too cluttered.
A round face would inherently give less room as two of my current Complications fit nicely into the bottom 2 corners.
Even if you could somehow fit all of this functionality on a round face, it’d be far more untidy.
For those who are not bothered about having onscreen access to as many capabilities as possible, however, I can see the attraction.
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I don't expect to see a redesign until series 7 or 8. Went from series 0 to series 4 until a redesign, expect it to be pretty similar. I think they held some features back until next years model, which they always do.
Agree with 7 or 8. If they cut it lose from an iPhone and it has it's own phone account it will need a better antenna.
Thanks for further clarifying.
I use the plain “modular” watch face for many of the same reasons as you. It’s why an always on display doesn’t interest me for that face as it would show others my personal appointments and reminders.
A round watch like you say at the end of your post would be an attraction for many other people and that’s a lot of money left on the table for apple to not want to capitalise.
I don't have an opinion as to whether it will happen or not. It might well be coming, and all apps will lose screen space...
Looking at what Apple are doing with their iPad and iPhone lines, they will probably release a different shape every year.
But I still think that if your priority is time keeping and the watch's look, you will be better served by a traditional wristwatch.
Anyone using the apps the way I do, welcomes the additional screen real estate provided by a rectangular shape.
I think anyone expecting any change to the current design, aside from thickness, is setting themselves up for disappointment. They just changed the design last year, the first time since the watch was first released. Anyone holding out hope for a round watch needs to move on. This notion in tech circles that if it doesn't LOOK different then it must not BE different is really annoying. I think it shows an attitude that is, frankly, shallow since the focus is purely on the APPEARANCE of the device and not the functionality. I seriously wonder if people who focus on this so much really just want to be SEEN having the latest and greatest. Lots of people have been taking Apple to task, including in this thread, for favoring form over function in recent years. The Apple Watch is an instance where function has won out over form. I welcome that.
Yep. Plus, it's not like anyone looks at a circular smartwatch and says "Wow, nice Rolex...oh, it's actually a Samsung!" The round smartwatches still look like mall kiosk watches, which is fine, but not impressing anyone, if that's what one is after.
S6 should come with more new health measure function and Ceramic Grey come back
S7 might re design and comeback with Gold Edition
Should be like this
S0 18k Gold
S2 Ceramic white
S3 Ceramic Grey
S4 SS Gold
S5 Ceramic white + Titanium
S6 Ceramic Grey + Titanium
S7 18k Gold
S7 might re design and comeback with Gold Edition
Should be like this
S0 18k Gold
S2 Ceramic white
S3 Ceramic Grey
S4 SS Gold
S5 Ceramic white + Titanium
S6 Ceramic Grey + Titanium
S7 18k Gold