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Am I the only one thinking progress has been really slow?

For 7 years not much has happened really. I still can make it barely through my day without recharging the phone

I have to totally agree with you.

I look at that great video (and love it) And think to myself...
Hey 2007, now 2014 It's barely changed at all.
Sure specs have changed, but fundamentally that same UI for 7 years.

Then to just place the same UI onto a 10" tablet was unforgivable :(

It WAS great, but they've been riding this way for 7 years.
We deserve more than a few tweeks by now
 
The iPad is a configuration of the iPhone.

The iPhone was a game changer. Like the iMac. Like the Macintosh. Since 2007, though, crickets. Just riffs on existing products, feature adds, revisions, refinements.

They no longer change the game; they just compete into existing markets with an aging product matrix.

Took longer than I expected for the Scamsungs to strike. Still can't write an original put down can they? Invented or developed anything world changing recently then guys? How about a fridge or ship or aircon or pedestal fan or blender or touch wiz .......(makes me think of some kind of creepy automated toilet)
 
Ah, back when Apple and Google were best buddies...

Could you ever imagine Tim Cook introducing Larry Page during the iPhone 6 announcement?
 
I miss Steve.

I also miss Apple attended Macworlds! I know it competes with CES and meant Apples product teams had to crunch over Christmas and the New Year to a date dictated by a third party company - but it was always great fun!
 
...and Apple hasn't done anything new since.

When Phil Schiller said "Can't innovate anymore my as", he was 3/5ths right. The first three words!

The iPad is a configuration of the iPhone.

The iPhone was a game changer. Like the iMac. Like the Macintosh. Since 2007, though, crickets. Just riffs on existing products, feature adds, revisions, refinements.

They no longer change the game; they just compete into existing markets with an aging product matrix.

1998-2007 products that revolutionized the segment that they were in:

iMac
OSX
iTunes
iPod
iPhone

2007-2014 products that revolutionized the segment that they were in:


See what I mean?

So who is changing the game?

In 2007 Apple introduced a keyboardless touchscreen iPhone... and everyone followed with their own touchscreen phones.

In 2010 Apple introduced the iPad... and everyone followed with their own tablets.

If you think Apple has done nothing for the last 7 years... what the hell has everyone else done?

Where's their game changer?
 
What would be cool

Is if Macrumors would post a link to the forum comments for the announcement from that day. It's always interesting to go back years later and read the comments where people spell out all the reasons why an Apple product will fail...
 
1998-2007 products that revolutionized the segment that they were in:

iMac
OSX
iTunes
iPod
iPhone

2007-2014 products that revolutionized the segment that they were in:



See what I mean?

Wait, wait, what about the iPad? The created a whole new segment of computing. And... don't underestimate the effect Touch ID will have in the next 3 years.

Also: one can argue that the creation of the iPhone and iPad and the App Store had so many far-reaching consequences that it took from 2007 to 2014 to let them all play out. There was no time to jump into a new category when there was still so much left to do with iPhone and iPad.

Lastly: no one else has been changing the game either, so you can't really point fingers at Apple. For all we know, they could be designing some incredible stuff in their secret labs.
 
Can't imagine there will ever be one quite like it, simply *the* best Apple keynote.

I was chomping at the bit for an iPhone after this, and we had to wait for a whole year here in the UK! Good times. :apple:
 
Goddamn MacRumours, now I'm going to have to watch this presentation again! For the 100th time.

Still gives me chills. Steve nailed this.
 
If you think Apple has done nothing for the last 7 years... what the hell has everyone else done?

Where's their game changer?

Excellent point. Unless someone else comes out with something incredible and worldwide changing with far-reaching consequences, we cannot point our finger at Apple and proclaim their "lack of innovation". We are still exploring the consequences of the iPhone and iPad (iPhone-controlled Hue lightbulbs, unlocking your door with your iPhone, Bluetooth geo-tracking Tiles, AirDrop, Touch ID), no need to jump straightaway into watches or TVs.
 
I remember this day quite well. Was in the middle of the Palm universe and us third party developers were complaining about the lack of progress on the latest Treo in features and unfixed, months old, OS bugs.

The whole community was still reeling from the deal-with-the-devil Treo 700w running Microsoft Windows Mobile the previous year. Many developers flat out told Palm shove off and they were not developing any apps for "w" due to the poor stability of that OS. The opinion of many developers was that Palm needed a good "kick in the ass" that would make them or break them.

One post written a few minutes after the iPhone was shown stated, "that kick just came in from Cupertino." I ended up seeing this post in my office as my CEO turned down my MacWorld PO saying "we don't have the money for this and you can read about it on the Internet." Later I found out where the money was really going.

The connections I had at Palm from their campus up in Milpitas just said "meet for lunch tomorrow" knowing this would be St. John's Burgers on Lawrence Expressway in Sunnyvale a block away from Fry's. This place has been a regular rumor mill venue since it was started by a few early Atari guys and has been a mainstay ever since.

We all get our usual spicer-than-hell burgers and talk this out. Learned second hand the iPhone launch created a firestorm at Palm. Was told many on their design team quit that day with the iPhone being the final straw. The last few years had Palm outsource a lot of OS development overseas to where the quality of the OS suffered and taking way too many product feature orders from Microsoft and the wireless carriers. One bug had the Athena serial port handshaking bit stuck disabling many third party devices requiring hardware handshakes that took a third party ROM patch to fix.

My company started to get calls asking for iPhone support the day of the launch. As the months followed and the iPhone shipped, Palm and RIM started their swan songs with their "bozo parade" keeping things from happening.

Back at our ranch, after the SDK came out, I put together a big presentation and budget laying out converting the whole company product line to iPhone and then Android a year later abandoning both Palm and Windows Mobile support. The CEO shot the plan down saying it would "disrupt" the product line too much and they didn't have the budget to execute such an effort. After negotiating my stock buyout, I left a year later.

That "kick in the ass" broke Palm and what is left of them is an OS running on smart TV's at CES this year.
 
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Well, they're working on new product categories for 2014 so we'll see what happens.

And to say the iPad wasn't a game changed is completely wrong.

What do you mean wrong? Who else is making ipad type devices? Desktops rule dude.
 
The iPad is a configuration of the iPhone.

The iPhone was a game changer. Like the iMac. Like the Macintosh. Since 2007, though, crickets. Just riffs on existing products, feature adds, revisions, refinements.

They no longer change the game; they just compete into existing markets with an aging product matrix.

Apple I (This was a groundbreaking device as it was the first personal computer that the public could actually use.- Released 1977

Macintosh - Released 1984

iPod - Released 2001

iPhone Released 2007


Time between the Apple I and Macintosh - 7 years
Time between Macintosh and iPod - 17 years
Time between iPod and iPhone - 6 years

On what planet did Apple release a revolution every single year? Just because it's been 7 years since Apple last a product like nothing that came before (I would argue the iPad was like no other tablet before it and a true revolution.), there is no need for you to think the gravy train will stop. Hell, it could be 20 years between innovations and they'd still be good.

True innovation takes time and vision. Jobs said he had the desire to build a touch computer going back to 80s. It took 20+ years for the technology to catch up. If innovation in name only is what you want, go be a Samsung lackey. Every piece of crap they churn out is claimed to be an innovation. :rolleyes:
 
1998-2007 products that revolutionized the segment that they were in:

iMac
OSX
iTunes
iPod
iPhone

2007-2014 products that revolutionized the segment that they were in:



See what I mean?

No. I take issue with your lists.

First, not everything you list was an "innovation." OS X was a badly needed catch-up. Windows had long had pre-emptive multi-tasking, a more stable kernel, and advanced memory management. It was significant for the Mac, but I don't think Microsoft changed any of its plans related to Windows based on what Apple did with OS X.

iMac wasn't the first all-in-one. It resurrected Apple's fortunes in the PC market, but it didn't create a new category. If you include that, then logically you should include the 2010 MacBook Air and 2013 Mac Pro. Both weren't "new" categories but radically changed expectations.

I'd consider iPod and iTunes to be the hardware and software sides of the same innovation.

Second, since 2007, we've seen the iPod, which was a brand new category. It wasn't just a "big iPod Touch," though it uses the same operating system. As noted above, I'd also include the MacBook Air. Whether that's a 2008 or 1 2010 innovation is subject to some interpretation. 2008 was more of a proof of concept. 2010 is what led to the modern "Ultrabook."
 
So who is changing the game?

In 2007 Apple introduced a keyboardless touchscreen iPhone... and everyone followed with their own touchscreen phones.

In 2010 Apple introduced the iPad... and everyone followed with their own tablets.

If you think Apple has done nothing for the last 7 years... what the hell has everyone else done?

Where's their game changer?

The game changer is in wearable technology. Keep in mind that there were over ten years of ups and downs in mobile systems before the first Palm Pilot got it right. Programmable jewelry and wearable have been on the fringe since the '90s Cyberpunk days.

Right now, we are seeing a rubber chicken show with Pebble being the only company that is really cashing in this new platform. The question you have to ask is how do you cash in?
 
Took longer than I expected for the Scamsungs to strike. Still can't write an original put down can they? Invented or developed anything world changing recently then guys? How about a fridge or ship or aircon or pedestal fan or blender or touch wiz .......(makes me think of some kind of creepy automated toilet)

Not saying (at all) that other companies *are* changing things.

Just at Apple is not the "reinventer" that it used to be.

And no, the iPhone and iPad are not different products. They are different versions of exactly the same product. This product came out in 2007 and has only been incrementally modified since then. They've made it small, big, medium sized, cheap, expensive, moderately priced, with cellular radio, and without. But it's the same product and you only get to count it once.

And it was a 200x idea that was released in 2007. And it's their latest big idea.

I really hope that their wristwatch or their TV blow us all away the way that the iPod did. But as of now, those are vapour.
 
And no, the iPhone and iPad are not different products. They are different versions of exactly the same product. This product came out in 2007 and has only been incrementally modified since then. They've made it small, big, medium sized, cheap, expensive, moderately priced, with cellular radio, and without. But it's the same product and you only get to count it once.

iPad and iPhone are different products and different product categories. Both are revolutions in their own right. Not going to even back this one up with reasons, because they are obvious.
 
And our Grandfathers were there for (at least mine was, 96)...

The proliferation of the automobile, air planes, and electricity.
The invention of radio, movies, television.
The proliferation of penicillin, and vaccines.
The creation of our the rail and highway system.
The invention of space travel.
Atomic energy.
Computers, and the internet.

But yeah, at least we'll have the iPhone 1.

Thank you!

People who are saying that the iPhone is the greatest thing that ever happened to humanity are truly delusional. It vastly improves upon many revolutionary products and inventions (and even combines a few together), but it isn't a revolutionary product or invention in it's own right. Perhaps evolutionary is the right word.

I am not trying to rain on anyone's parade either, I am just being realistic.
 
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