What I see here is Apple selling these intel machines with less features than M1 machines and people trying to convince others it’s good because it’s Apple.
Save your “money” comments because it is ridiculous.
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Several macOS Monterey Features Unavailable on Intel-Based Macs
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Save your “money” comments because it is ridiculous.
I agree it's not likely to be curtains for all Intel Macs within 2 years, but the way things are going, they seem to be quite hurriedly dropping models by historic standards. Big Sur dropped 2 years worth of Macs, Monterey drops another 2 years. I don't know if they will keep it up and next year will drop 2015s and 2016s, or if they will take a break, but given the 2014 MacBook Pro got dropped while the identical but for force touch 2015 is still supported suggests this is being driven by a desire to pare down the number of Intel macs that need a version of the OS quickly rather than by how well the OS actually runs.
That has never been the case with iOS. Even with MacOS, some features have required more modern Macs for a while (e.g. AirDrop).
Well actually there IS a technical reason. Missing neural engine.
but anyways.. your analogy:
“This is an outrage. No technical reason this can’t be in Windows!
Forced robbing in action from Microsoft.”
get it?
No, it’s not good. For folks that REALLY want those specific features (who knows why) and currently have Intel systems, it’s bad. Unquestionably. However, I WOULD say that users should take this as a reminder of how Apple operates and think VERY carefully prior to purchasing another Apple product.
Oh you mean like “camera portrait mode” on iphone 6s, raw photos on iphone 6s with ios 14, face id with iphone 7 and ios 14,… get the idea?? 😉😉
I am using a powered displaylink dock with my MBP13 M1 and running two external displays for a total of three screens
Just maybe Apple chose to implement these functions with the neural engine. Having them work on Intel Macs might have required coding a different implementation which they didn't want to do.
And T2 in the current Intel Macs is basically an A10 (It's used for processing the images from the webcam in the 202o iMac).
They dropped support for my 15" MacBook Pro completely with Monterey. Fortunately I had already given it to my daughter. 😀
Apple does not have a massive number of hardware configurations.
No, Apple job is to support what you have.
Don't expect everything new to work on every machine.
Really? Has there been one year over year update that dropped support for the previous year?
I know forum members like to get really upset when one particular thing doesn’t happen for them, but if we’re comparing Macs to iPhone support I’d be thrilled. My mom is still happily using my old 6s and it does everything she needs it to.
The fact that Macs are now going full Apple silicon means to me that these things are going to have even longer useful lifespans. I’m still happily using my 2015 MBP, and that’s going to my girlfriend when I pick up the next announced MBP. It’ll be the nicest computer she’s ever had, and she’ll be ecstatic with it.
The idea that not getting a damn 3D map is causing the teeth gnashing here is really something else. If a 2015 MBP is still perfectly usable in 2021, I’d bet anything that a 2021 M1 machine is still going to be perfectly usable for *average* people come 2027 and beyond. My mother isn’t going to be furious that she doesn’t get some obscure feature.
I have an Apple IIGS, looking for the latest update any day now.
Support doesn't mean getting new features. You should never expect any new feature and the ones you get, you should just consider a free bonus.
Apple is smart. They are walling their products off so that once you get get the latest features and the latest M1 machines, you can't stop upgrading and spending more and more money.
I, for one, now have an HP Windows computer, and a second Android phone, if and when they allow iMessage on Android (and they will hold off as long as they possibly can) I'm going to stop using Apple products, as they have become too overpriced for me. The iPhone 12 Pro Max will be the last iPhone I buy, at $ 1,298 (with AppleCare). Many other options abound for iMessage, like Signal, WhatsApp.....will simply have my friends and associates who want to CONTINUE to communicate with me, use those apps which are readily available and free. This will be a slight inconvenience, but....
My Android phone is a Motorola One Ace 5G, which retailed for $ 415 including tax. It's a great Android phone, and despite no wireless charging, is good enough for this 73 year old retiree. My Windows machine is an HP Spectre 15" laptop with touch screen!!!! Imagine that. With 16GB RAM, 512 GB solid state drive, at $ 1,499, a comparable Mac would be priced at about $ 2,799 to start, and with AppleCare & dongles and accessories, it would go for over $ 3,700. True, the 16" Macbook Pro has 1TB of storage, but I don't need that.
Ok, so now I am ready for all the haters to call me stupid, and ignorant......go ahead make my day! I'm waiting for it!
I, for one, now have an HP Windows computer, and a second Android phone, if and when they allow iMessage on Android (and they will hold off as long as they possibly can) I'm going to stop using Apple products, as they have become too overpriced for me. The iPhone 12 Pro Max will be the last iPhone I buy, at $ 1,298 (with AppleCare). Many other options abound for iMessage, like Signal, WhatsApp.....will simply have my friends and associates who want to CONTINUE to communicate with me, use those apps which are readily available and free. This will be a slight inconvenience, but....
My Android phone is a Motorola One Ace 5G, which retailed for $ 415 including tax. It's a great Android phone, and despite no wireless charging, is good enough for this 73 year old retiree. My Windows machine is an HP Spectre 15" laptop with touch screen!!!! Imagine that. With 16GB RAM, 512 GB solid state drive, at $ 1,499, a comparable Mac would be priced at about $ 2,799 to start, and with AppleCare & dongles and accessories, it would go for over $ 3,700. True, the 16" Macbook Pro has 1TB of storage, but I don't need that.
Ok, so now I am ready for all the haters to call me stupid, and ignorant......go ahead make my day! I'm waiting for it!
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Get a grip. It’s still getting OS updates, it’s just not getting some individual features. People will make a personal decision if neural engine features are important to them or not, and then decide their upgrade path.
Customers aren't being robbed. Robbed means loosing possessions and they never had these feature on their Intel Macs.
Hmm, I think the ONLY person that “can’t stop upgrading” is the person that, MORE than anything else, more than the usefulness of the system, more than what they do with it MORE than what it can do for them, MUST have the latest and greatest NO MATTER WHAT. I’m sure there are millions of those in the world and likely several hundred in these forums. But, in the end, that’s a THEM problem, not an Apple problem.