The 2014 15" MacBook Pro is not quite identical to the 2015 apart from the force touch trackpad. Some models also have an NVidia GPU.
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Several macOS Monterey Features Unavailable on Intel-Based Macs
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There is a lot of talk about the M1. Granted, it was a marvelous first attempt but it is just a first attempt. However, if that is the chip Apple intends to use on the forth coming MBP, I will be especially disappointed. I expect more from Apple, at least an M1X upgrade or better yet a M2. Apple has had more than enough time to improve the M1. A M1X would create some separation between the iPad line and the Mac line. Even the cracked marking team at Apple can understand that. What if the delayed release of the MBP is not due to hardware issues but software related issues. Judging from WWDC, Monterrey is light in meaningful upgraded abilities but heavy with 'Frills'. I am hopeful that in the intervening time, the Apple will introduce more features to Monterrey to encourage its adoption. The follow-on MBP should not be a half hearted copy of last year's model.
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So they are. That’s ok. Those who need the newer features should not buy one. The rest can make an informed decision. They’re still selling the non-4K Apple TV, the older Apple Watch, and my daughters’ iPhones SE don’t support the same features my iPhone 12 Pro does.
Could they have implemented these features another way, maybe. They didn’t owe it to us to do so though.
Apple only have one OS team, at least across MacOS, iPad OS and iOS.
No, Apple shouldn't spend as much resources on Intel Macs as their other devices. Intel Macs are heading for extinction. They should only get bare minimum support. I
If a new feature can be programmed better using some hardware which is not present on Intel Macs, they should go for ditching that feature on Intel Macs instead of programming it twice. Program for the future and not the past.
They’re not going to release updated pro machines with simply the same M1. Where are you getting this notion from?
Presumably from the vast well of baseless distrust of Apple that everyone around here seems to drink from.
You expect more than the fastest large form factor MBP ever released? Which is what an M1 chip would provide. I’d say expect an M1 and if there’s anything better, rejoice! Especially if “things Apple releases” ties heavily into your idea of being happy.
For Apple, they just want these features to work on their own specific hardware. Intel is on the way out. They have no need to make these new features platform neutral or versatile when it comes to hardware since they'll program against their own neural and GPU APIs.
Apple wants less abstraction and more hardware specific coding.
Well, Apple DID stop making lower priced monitors. And they DID release a tower that starts at $6,000. And they DID EOL Final Cut Pro when they released the feature lacking Final Cut Pro X. And they DID end a lot of folk’s web publishing ambitions when they ended the hosting for iWeb web pages and the app itself. And they DID EOL Aperture.
So, if someone’s view of Apple is deeply and emotionally tied to those or ANY number of myriad different reasons (no wireless access points, no support for 32-bit apps) then I guess they’ve got somewhere to base their distrust? Maybe?
It may be the lucky few that can see Apple end something, go “Darn, I kinda liked that… oh well” and go on with life?
Every single dev I have ever worked with has loathed, LOATHED, going back and maintaining old legacy code that required hoops and workarounds to make work the same way as newer APIs or methods existed that made the same feature trivial.
Because that's support which Apple does.
Also many, of not most, of the security problems will affect both platforms.
Yeah thats what I am saying; I really want a M Chip that supports dual monitors. I have 2 4k displays that I can power with an intel machine that I need for work. I'd love an M1 bu the lack of driving 2 displays has kept me away.
What forth coming MBP? There is already an MBP with the M1. Any other Apple Silicon MBPs are just a rumor at this time.
That's not the way I see it. The way I see it is I bought my MBA to do basic stuffs and it's doing everything I bought it to do. It can't capture AR. Big deal.
Then you buy a wrong MacBook. Base MB is base MB. If you want to try advanced stuffs you shouldn't buy base of the base (M1) in the first place.
If next version of macOS update I can't mine bitcoin, who cares! I didn't buy it for these. People are just too panic.
people that need a powerful workstation and don't have time for apple silicon to be capable
I'm not really bothered by this anymore. I didn't really feel Big Sur grabbed me where it shouldn't so I eventually returned to Catalina. That feels like the last true version of OS X to me. Monterey just feels like an aquarium of things but nothing special.
And there is no problem with Intel Macs having fewer feature since they are the past and soon to be extinct. The Intel Macs are the Neanderthals which are going to be driven off this planet by the Homo "M1" sapiens.
If you want everything which Apples offer you need to buy their new stuff.
I truly believe the real meat and potatoes of the M1 is how it will handle the AR future Apple has been hard at work at for the better part of a decade. My take is the chip was designed specifically for this not too distant future and that is precisely why it’s the baseline of the new generation of Mac. The M1 probably isn’t going to be the AR content creation platform (though it’s certainly capable) of choice for Pros, but it’s designed specifically to experience it. This will become clearer in time, but Apple’s AR project stretches back hardware wise several years now on the mobile side of things.
I like rejoicing. Interestingly Apple has no problem cranking out a new processor every year for the iPhone. They are not reinventing the wheel but focusing on improving various areas. it is not a big leap to expect something similar for the Mac. My happiness is not dependent on Apple but I do expect improvement. After all, Apple does charge dear for their efforts.
Your definition of 'support' and Apple must be vastly different.
Oh, it's pulled from under me many times believe me. This is not unique to Apple Silicon at all. Even Intel to Intel the features were always different. You're new to Mac I presume.
I hope you are right. Apple has been mighty quiet about a new processor and I am worried that any development on the improved processor might have been blamed on Covid delay like everything else. Monterrey seems a prime example so far.
You need to rewatch WWDC from *last* year. Their senior chip engineer made it crystal clear there is a *family* of chips in the pipeline. We have not seen anything from what I expect their “performance” line will be. These things take years to develop, COVID changed nothing except maybe the end of the line production, a bit.
