Several macOS Monterey Features Unavailable on Intel-Based Macs

[9927036]

Holy mother of false equivalencies

Please explain given the original post.

 

[turbineseaplane]

As an owner of a 24,000 US$ mac pro 2019 bought a bit more than one year ago I am totally and utterly pissed by these cost centric decisions.

If you'd like to upgrade to an Apple Silicon model, we'd be happy to recycle your old machine for you!

-Tim

 

[9927036]

If you'd like to upgrade to an Apple Silicon model, we'd be happy to recycle your old machine for you!

-Tim

We'll be happy to pay your postage also.

-Tim

 

[gevalt]

• Portrait Mode blurred backgrounds in FaceTime videos
• Live Text for copying and pasting, looking up, or translating text within photos
• An interactive 3D globe of Earth in the Maps app
• More detailed maps in cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, and London in the Maps app
• Text-to-speech in more languages, including Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, and Finnish
• On-device keyboard dictation that performs all processing completely offline
• Unlimited keyboard dictation (previously limited to 60 seconds per instance)

isn't that like the entire list of monterey's new features that aren't going to be available?

 

[hagar]

I don’t want to complain but… 4 cities worldwide that get a new Maps feature?? Is this a joke?

 

[turbineseaplane]

isn't that like the entire list of monterey's new features that aren't going to be available?

Not totally

All platforms will get the completely unwanted changes to Safari forced down their throats

 

[coolbreeze2]

YOU’VE FOILED THEIR PLANS YOU BOUNDER, YOU RUFFIAN!!

LOL

 

[Mr.Blacky]

I feel some people are being a bit deliberately obtuse in this matter.

The fact that these features are missing, is not a big deal on the face of it, but what it represents (should these features currently not be in development for Intel Macs) is Apple taking away team resources used for development for Intel machines and moving them onto M1 machines, while still selling Intel machines, and leaving lots of Intel owners out in the cold without much thought. The decent thing to do, would have been to operate equal resources on both M1 and Intel machines for the remainder of the Intel model lives. Even three years main feature support would have been suitable.

If you are ok with Apple doing this to you, good for you. But I think it is wrong and shows Apple will happily step on you should it suit them. As many of us always suspected but it is now confirmed. But there is really bugger all we can do about it apart from buy non Apple when we want a new machine.

What's confirmed?
Intel Macs don't get said features, because they wouldn't run as well on those machines, as Apple wants them to run. That's it.

 

[jeremiah256]

Really, you think Apples ARM SoC's have evolved that much?

Remember, these chips started in the iPhone. They’ve been evolving the ARM SoCs since 2010 when they introduced the A4 SoC.

 

[iBluetooth]

This is an outrage. No technical reason this can’t be on Intel.
Forced depreciation in action.

The new M1 computers include a lot of AI CPU cores in the SOC, which is what allows most of these features. Intel doesn't include any, in current CPU's.

 

[magicschoolbus]

I run two monitors from my M1 MBP13 (total of three screens) and two from my Mac Mini

How? The literature on Apples website states the M1 only supports 1 External display.

 

[turbineseaplane]

How? The literature on Apples website states the M1 only supports 1 External display.

Two total
The Mini of course has no internal display, thus it supports two externals

 

[magicschoolbus]

My M1 Mini with dual displays - 27" Thunderbolt + 32" 4K:
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How? The literature on Apples website states they can only support 1 display.

Seriously; I'd like to know how people are doing this - because it's preventing me from buying a M Series laptop.

 

[magicschoolbus]

Two total
The Mini of course has no internal display, thus it supports two externals

Right; but the laptops cannot support 2 external displays. Am I correct in this?

 

[turbineseaplane]

Right; but the laptops cannot support 2 external displays. Am I correct in this?

Correct

With external display link adapter hacks apparently people have been using more, but officially, it's just one external on the M1 laptops that have been released thus far.

 

[iGobbleoff]

So my 28 core Mac Pro can’t run a spinning globe?

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Powered by siri. That bitch cant dictate a four word sentence accurately. Apple has the worst and most in accurate voice dictation in the market. That is not a feature you’re losing out on. It’s a crew lots of torture for those that have m1s and try it

Apple could have said that the M1 Macs support “a random sharp punch to the solar plexus” and folks would be screaming about why THEY can’t also get a punch? Why can’t the Intel Macs support that!? without even thinking about it. Get outraged first, THEN consider what you’re outraged about is the key

 

[MilaM]

So my 28 core Mac Pro can’t run a spinning globe?

The spinning globe thing is really ridiculous. Sounds like a bad joke.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

So my 28 core Mac Pro can’t run a spinning globe?

Correction, can’t run an APPLE built spinning globe. However, I doubt that matters right? I mean, have you spun a globe on that 28 core Mac Pro before today?

 

[RedRage]

What hardware would you consider?

I'm not sure right now. My 2017 is still working. I'll keep it until it's on it's last leg then I'll look into whatever is available at that time.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

The issue is people on here were statin the 8GB RAM was plenty and would last people for years to come. Yet not even 2 years after release you need double that for the OS to perform all of it's features.

16 GB is needed if you’re using an Intel system (in addition to 4 GB of VRAM). It’ll run on all Apple Silicon systems.

 

[Realityck]

Remember, these chips started in the iPhone. They’ve been evolving the ARM SoCs since 2010 when they introduced the A4 SoC.

That was against "M1 is the new baseline and will be for several years going forward."
We don't know the hardware capabilities of next generation Apple Silicon. (more cores, GPU changes) Yes we seen quite a evolution from the A4 to the M1. It's impressive.

 

[Jonas07]

I guess you could replace your ageing iMac with a Windows system and have 0% of the Monterey features. That might work out better, actually.

That’s an amazing idea since Windows 10 works as intended with all the features in any toaster with any intel, ram or ssd installed, no restrictions at all. I mean even a chromebook with an intel core duo can use google earth showing the globe 🌍.

 

[sstreky]

Sarcasm?

If there's a finite amount of resources to develop 8 features, Apple could either release 4 of 8 of them for both M1 and x86, or release all those 8 for M1.

Apple is in the business to sell new hardware. Of course you're going to put your best features on your newest silicon architectures, only.

Budgetary constraints on resources is certainly an acceptable and understandable reason. However for corporations as large and rich as Apple, that argument falls on its face. Of course they can do whatever they want, and we are free to complain about it and not purchase their products either.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Not totally

All platforms will get the completely unwanted changes to Safari forced down their throats

Then don’t upgrade…personally, I have zero problems with the updates to Safari in Monterrey, what’s your deal? Because you don’t want them? With all the alternate browsers available for macOS, you can’t find something else to use? Seems like you’re projecting your problems on the rest of us and at least one of us is not agreeing with you.