Wait...so the 2020 5K Retina iMac that I just bought from Apple a month ago is not compatible with those features? Must be missing something here, surely it could.
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Several macOS Monterey Features Unavailable on Intel-Based Macs
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I don't think it so much the cpu power today, as much as the underlying new architecture of the M1 and follow-on. They obliviously want to design/code/test/support using the already announce new AS not x86. It is a business decision primarily.
Why would you buy a 2020 iMac a month ago given the transition to Apple Silicon and WWDC right around the corner?
That's what Apple was selling
Customers shouldn't have to be "forecasting what might be coming" when making these decisions in that way.
That's crap from Apple if that's the answer
Some people just need them right now. I was dismayed that I’ve had to shell out for two 16” MBP’s at work when the reality is it was just the required screen size. Everything my Creative team does would be a much better experience on even an M1 Air, but alas…screen size. Now, I did save a few pennies in the budget by going Apple refurb, but that basically made the AppleCare pay for itself 🤷♂️
My mistake I bought it early April. And it's for work. When the new iMacs were announced, I couldn't cancel because I can't wait a whole month again to get one.
It wasn't a mistake, you bought something tangible. Just a lot here telling people wait wait something better is coming. Now a lot of us are stuck in holding patterns for the next few months. Wanting to be put out of our miseries.
Intel is not Neanderthal at all, they are different architectures, also let me remind you again Apple still sell the Mac Pro, MacBook Pro and an iMac with intel processors, also other brands, I mean the M1 is not the holy grail because you can save a few seconds opening apps or a few minutes encoding videos, and the entire world still use Intel.
What a toxic Apple apologist saying everything non Apple is prehistoric, wake up and look at your current ecosystem full of bugs; don’t believe me, go check the subforum sand Apple communities, every year more useless gimmicks and less quality software working well in capable machines.
Gotcha…sounds like a rock and a hard place. Not judging, just wanted to know the circumstances. I bought a 2019 decked out iMac (i9, Vega 48, 64GB DRAM) at the end of 2019 knowing that AS was on its way, so I should probably be miffed about some of this as well, but I’m not really. I would much rather get a few more releases of macOS past Monterrey than worry about complete feature parity with Apple Silicon, but that’s me. Hopefully, Apple will feel the same way.
Ya because your intel processor is prehistoric by macrumours members, an incapable machine that can’t render the earth on Apple maps and blur your background in a face call.
For my money, I reckon they’ve focused on getting these features to work flawlessly on M1 which has been built for them from the ground up. As such Intel is probably secondary and will arrive later on, given the level of trash talk from Intel the last few months, my cynical side says that may have played a role… conjecture on my part obviously but hey
Got it. So features that could work on both platforms especially given the use of Xcode and common libraries won't be done.
I don't think Apple is dropping anything quickly but quite the opposite actually.
Anecdotally, I just upped my AppleCare for an additional year because the 3 year plan just expired on my i7.
I think people are confusing the technologies (pl.) in the M1 with Intel/x86-64, comparing apples to oranges.
They are night-and-day different (e.g., machine learning, decompilers, thread length, instruction set, etc.)
M1 isn't even a CPU (it has one) or a GPU (has that, too) but itself a whole system of chips and processors.
Comparing M1 to Intel is like comparing a complete package to a singular component.
Plus, literally everything in the list screams M1's Neural Engine optimization...
- Portrait Mode blurred backgrounds in FaceTime videos
- Live Text for copying and pasting, looking up, or translating text within photos
- An interactive 3D globe of Earth in the Maps app
- More detailed maps in cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, and London in the Maps app
- Text-to-speech in more languages, including Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, and Finnish
- On-device keyboard dictation that performs all processing completely offline
- Unlimited keyboard dictation (previously limited to 60 seconds per instance)
However, albeit conjecturally, I think that conversation may have gone something like this....
I'm not trying to poke at people who are still on Intel (I still have an i7) but rather pointing out that it is not economically feasible to throw new money and resources at older equipment/designs.
Personally, I remember when OS updates cost money, anywhere from $30-129 on the Mac, so a transition to free updates has undoubtedly put more emphasis on hardware, and Apple remains pretty candid that "efficiency" (i.e., Performance Per Watt) is far more important than raw CPU performance.
I think that's a tad alarmist, bordering on hyperbole.
Looking at the PowerPC to Intel transition, we had PPC releases for 5+ years after the last PPC Mac was discontinued.
Anecdotally, the last security update for PPC (Snow Leopard) was in 2013, 7+ years after the last PPC Mac was discontinued.
No, sorry. The 2020 5K Retina iMac has an Intel processor which, as many on this thread will tell you, is a piece of junk. You need a M processor to get those new features on Monterey and the features yet to be announced.
Perhaps because Tim said the following:
The company expects the Apple silicon transition to "take about two years," Cook said, and plans to "continue to support and release new versions of MacOS for Intel-based Macs for years to come."
He continued, "In fact, we have some new Intel-based Macs in the pipeline that we're really excited about."
Still, the MacBook Pro will become into the new iPhone, new features every year working extremely bad and buggy and then the next next year another feature, but instead giving us better cameras they will add Starbucks in 3D on Apple maps and new backgrounds on FaceTime so we can fake to be in a beach while we are in our room. Welcome to the XXI century.
In fact we can't forecast since Apple provides no information about future releases of hardware and software. Unlike other companies who are more focussed on the business sector.
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“What might be coming?” Really? Given that apple said their entire lineup was going to switch to apple silicon in the near future, you didn’t have to be Nostradamus to “forecast what might be coming.”
This is not "crap from Apple", if you're going to get wound up about this. Same situation applies to cars, Windows PCs, TVs, etc.
Are we saying a 5 year old iphone will support these features but a mbp I buy today won;t?!
While there are many great new features in macOS Monterey, several of them are not available on Intel-based Macs, according to Apple.
On the macOS Monterey features page, fine print indicates that the following features require a Mac with the M1 chip, including any MacBook Air, 13-inch MacBook Pro, Mac mini, and iMac model released since November 2020:
Apple has not explained why any of these features are not available on Intel-based Macs. For what it's worth, Google Earth has long offered an interactive 3D globe of the Earth on Intel-based Macs both on the web and in an app.
- Portrait Mode blurred backgrounds in FaceTime videos
- Live Text for copying and pasting, looking up, or translating text within photos
- An interactive 3D globe of Earth in the Maps app
- More detailed maps in cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, and London in the Maps app
- Text-to-speech in more languages, including Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, and Finnish
- On-device keyboard dictation that performs all processing completely offline
- Unlimited keyboard dictation (previously limited to 60 seconds per instance)
Apple is currently in the midst of a two-year transition from Intel processors to its custom Apple silicon chips in Macs, with the changeover slated to be completed by WWDC 2022. Macs with the M1 chip have proven to be much faster than their equivalent Intel-based predecessors, with even the base model MacBook Air with the M1 chip outperforming a maxed-out Intel-based 16-inch MacBook Pro in benchmarks.
Apple is widely rumored to be planning redesigned 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models powered by a faster iteration of the M1 chip for later this year.
macOS Monterey is still compatible with a wide variety of Intel-based Macs, and is available now in beta for developers. The software update will likely be publicly released to all users at some point between September and November.
Update: According to Rene Ritchie, Intel-based Macs lack the Neural Engine that many if not all of these features require.
Article Link: Several macOS Monterey Features Unavailable on Intel-Based Macs
But you bought them knowing that they would be slowly losing support for new features and even third party software much faster than a typical Mac purchase. That’s life.
I’m not complaining at all, we just hired two people in that department and they needed machines. Now, they all do graphics for various website partners we work with so an M1 would vastly improve their day to day because it’s more than enough power for the Adobe programs they use, but the creature comforts of insane battery life. The ONLY reason I’m dismayed is because budget season is coming up and I’m looking to transition that small team to AS as quickly as possible given the head of the department wants my input on refreshing the entire department.
I’m not whining, I was pointing out to another user that sometimes the immediate need means you need to purchase a device that while plenty capable, will be an interim device that we paid heavily for. I was pushing back against another user who’s framing at the time made it seem like the purchase by another was a bad decision because AS is right around the corner, but just laying out an example of immediate need sometimes being the deciding factor.
Additionally, none of these “lost features” should ever come up. If I have a worker complaint about not displaying the 3D Apple Map…I’d have some more probing questions about what work they actually do here 😂