Several macOS Monterey Features Unavailable on Intel-Based Macs

[Mr. Dee]

2019 MacBook Pro already considered junk by Apple 😄

 

[MrTemple]

An interactive 3D globe doesn't require a neural network to display. Google Earth has had a 3D interactive map for almost fifteen years.

Please tell us more of your insight into the iOS-based framework API stack that this feature is built upon, and why Apple should have chosen to devote dev resources onto a legacy ported app built on a legacy stack... 🤔

 

[CarlJ]

This is an outrage. No technical reason this can’t be on Intel.
Forced depreciation in action.

Just to start with the very first bullet point, “Portrait Mode blurred backgrounds in FaceTime videos”, people have been complaining for years that the webcams in Macs are potato cams, and now they’ve replaced those with more capable cameras, backed with a whole lot of (hardware) image processing from the iOS side, and are clearly leveraging their existing Neural Engine code for image processing on the fly, and you want them to backport all that to run on the potato cams? I’d rather they spend their time on features for the new hardware, and only support features on Intel machines that don’t take a lot of extra work to achieve an inferior result - which seems like what they’re doing.

 

[turbineseaplane]

So much carrying water for the trillion dollar death star

(they don't need your help defending themselves folks...)

 

[Janichsan]

"BuT aPpLe WiLl sUpPoRt InTeL mAcS fOr YeArS tO cOmE."

Gee, who would have guessed that... 😒

 

[Heelpir8]

Why waste time on intel?

Because Apple is still selling Intel-based Macs.

 

[RSB96]

...and we will all be the better for it.

The M1 is the future, Intel is the present and slowly becoming the past.

Personally, I never thought my Intel Mac was "slow" but the upgrade to an M1 has made a real difference in my day-to-day. If you asked me what's changed, I'd say, "Everything."

Yes, the M1 by all accounts is amazing, but quickly dropping Intel Macs would be a bad move for its users, especially considering that iOS is giving almost more support than Mac depending on the Mac model.

They are quite expensive equipment (in Europe even more so), and although I understand the reason for leaving them aside (the M1 allows a faster and more integrated introduction of new features thanks to its architecture), it does not seem fair to me for users of 5 years ago Mac. (because dangerously close to leaving without updates to the MacBook 2016.

 

[boast]

This reminds me when Nvidia released RTX Voice and Broadcast with background blur that only worked on their RTX cards because it needed the ray tracing hardware. Then it turns out it didn't and worked with the older GPUs.

 

[Khedron]

Just to start with the very first bullet point, “Portrait Mode blurred backgrounds in FaceTime videos”, people have been complaining for years that the webcams in Macs are potato cams, and now they’ve replaced those with more capable cameras, backed with a whole lot of (hardware) image processing from the iOS side, and are clearly leveraging their existing Neural Engine code for image processing on the fly, and you want them to backport all that to run on the potato cams? I’d rather they spend their time on features for the new hardware, and only support features on Intel machines that don’t take a lot of extra work to achieve an inferior result - which seems like what they’re doing.

Laptops still have potato cams. So they must have already backported it?

 

[turbineseaplane]

Because Apple is still selling Intel-based Macs.

And not just "some" -- like half the lineup!

 

[MikeSmoke]

I guess Intel Macs just took a big loss in resell value.

 

[StupidOpinion]

and there it is. alienating intel products so that people only buy apple silicon macs from now on

 

[cmaier]

I'm pretty sure Intel chips and handle those new features in MacOS. You really believe leaving those features out of the Intel based systems was not intentional?

say it’s intentional. How does that force you to buy a new machine? You didn’t even know these were features you wanted three days ago.

 

[honeycombz]

I’m still on Mojave. Don’t know how anyone keeps up with all these updates. Once a year is enough for me. I do have 6 machines to maintain. Maybe I’ll make it to Catalina by years end.

 

[cmaier]

Because Apple is still selling Intel-based Macs.

Not with Monterey. So the machines they sell today can do everything the M1 macs can do (other than run ios/ipad apps).

 

[coolbreeze2]

Like any business, if Apple sees a way to earn more money it will. Limiting certain features to M1, Apple hopes to push more users to buy an M1. Well I already have both! Hah! Tim Cook. You get to only force me to buy a new Mac if I want to. LOL!!

 

[blazerunner]

How, exactly, is anyone hosed? Your computer has the same features it had yesterday.

Why are you acting as if a computer is NOT an investment with future support? Are you aware that there are Mac Pros that people have spent literally tens of thousands of dollars, or do you think Apple only makes low end consumer grade stuff?

 

[Azeroth1]

This is crap.

I’m generally understanding of them dropping support for things after a period of time. No company should be expected to support things forever. But unless there is a true hardware reason for this I call BS.

 

[GaryMumford]

So, I can go onto apple.com and buy a maxed out intel Mac Pro that will cost over £52,000, and it won’t run all the features in Monterey!!! 😱

 

[dohspc]

That’s why you shouldn’t buy an Intel based Mac at this point. Simply not worth all the shananigans Apple is gonna pull during this transition.

 

[bobenhaus]

say it’s intentional. How does that force you to buy a new machine? You didn’t even know these were features you wanted three days ago.

Tell this to the people that just bought Intel based Macs .

 

[Heelpir8]

Not with Monterey. So the machines they sell today can do everything the M1 macs can do (other than run ios/ipad apps).

I wouldn’t want to buy an Intel Mac today and find out that’s changing in only a few months.

 

[coolbreeze2]

What would be great if Apple gave more credit than it normally does for trading in an Intel Mac!!! That's one way Apple can get the Intel Macs gone for good!

 

[slb]

Yeah, they are possible if you are ok with waiting couple of seconds while your machine analyses the photo and sucks battery like crazy at the same time. Come on, be realistic. Presence of ultra-efficient on-board ML hardware does offer some new applications.

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration.

 

[no_idea]

“Apple has not explained why…”
Well…could it be because it’s throwaway work at this point?