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It's absolutely diabolical to believe anyone would want to deny Tim Cook fair compensation for all the incredible work he has done in building on the Steve Jobs legacy.

Nobody is wanting to do that

The debate is about what's "fair" for him personally
 
Cook's 2021 compensation "significantly exceeded" that provided by comparable companies last year.

Outing myself here, but I can't stand Tim Cook for a myriad of reasons, but that said, what are all of these "comparable companies" to which apple is compared? How many $3Trillion businesses are there out there? Seems like we're talking about a fairly small pool for comparison.

I'd be a fan of reigning in politicians getting rich off of insider trading before we start getting all upset at how private boards decide to compensate their corporate employees.
 
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I'd be a fan of reigning in politicians getting rich off of insider trading before we start getting all upset at how private boards decide to compensate their corporate employees.

This would be a good use of the negative energy people direct at the success of others, doing little more than compensating for their own lack of accomplishment in life. All of these self-righteous people complaining about other peoples' money ... I'd love to see what they'd do if they won the lottery.
 
I'm all for a discussion and proposal from interested shareholders who push back on certain things. It's healthy for a publicly traded company to receive that feedback.

Personally, as a shareholder, I am not concerned at all with Mr. Cook's pay.
I am when it is effecting both quality and innovation like it is with the current Apple.

It is real easy to generate profits. All you have to do is not invest into the future.

With Apple he is squeezing the company so far that both Quality and Brand are suffering in the long run. Sure, right now, teenagers don't care. But eventually Apple will be priced out of the market. Prices too high and quality too low for any sensible person to make that tradeoff. At some point shiny losses it value. That is why Ive got out.
 
Nah.

Mr. Cook rightfully deserves this compensation, especially placing Apple in a position with financial growth during a pandemic and supply chain shortages.
 
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Yes, it will be more. But the question you should be asking is to whose life will the pay increase have a more meaningful impact, the retail store employee making an extra couple thousand a year or Tim Cook getting $99 million when he earned $98.7 million in 2021? Look at the immediate impact and the long term impact, not to mention the impact on socieity as a whole.
I think they did both though. They gave ALL employees a raise and the CEO gets a bonus for hitting milestones and leading a a very profitable and successful company. I think in the vast majority of companies the raise for all employees doesn't exist, but the CEO still gets the bonus based on performance targets.
 
These shareholders are trying to rock the boat - Pay the man his money.
I'm a shareholder and I am more than happy to rock this boat.

The product/service decisions that have been pushed through under Tim Cook in the last few years have been questionable at best. Sure, he's great at pulling stuff from the parts bin to make a new product on the cheap and earn some more $$ - But I'm here for the innovation.
 
I'm all for a discussion and proposal from interested shareholders who push back on certain things. It's healthy for a publicly traded company to receive that feedback.

Personally, as a shareholder, I am not concerned at all with Mr. Cook's pay.
Neither am I worried about his pay package. AAPL has made me something that I never thought I would be and I know my wife and daughter will be taken care of after I am gone (terminal cancer) but that is a millionaire, just barely by like 10k. No I am not being arrogant or bragging or anything like that. They needed to be taken care of first and foremost. I do however thank Mr. Cook and Co. for letting me be in this position with what is going on in my personal life. So as far as I am concerned, he definitely has earned that pay package. Why bite the hand that feeds you.
 
Think about what you just said..
You're giving leadership all kinds of credit for "reversing mistakes"

What about holding them to account for making those mistakes and, with some lineups (like laptops), having a purgatory of rather "meh" products for a good 4+ year run.

There are two reasons for those mistakes. One is Intel missing its promises year after year after year. You can see what apple expected from them by the way they built their thin machines and what kind of CPU Intel shipped that just couldn't meet Apples thermal requirements. Apple finally kicked Intel out and made its own CPUs which fit perfectly what Apple planned all along anyway.

Second reason for those mistake was a British guy who also got the boot who seemed obsessed with form over function and useless thinness. Finally Apple is making great hardware again.

So yes seeing the mistakes you make, having the balls to admit you made mistakes, and reversing course, those are things I like in a person.
 
There's simply no basis here for attributing market cap growth of an already very healthy public company to this one man. The stock market is not rational and market cap is not profit. Especially dubious given what Apple did to their Mac lineup following Job's passing.
The market cap growth imo, is the indirect outcome of new products, new services and record breaking revenue.
 
Yes, that's something i have to accredit, Tim C. managed to optimize the production pipeline (whip-whip-whip) and outsource even more to China. Yeah yeah America first! ?

To me that's still resting on Steve Jobs legacy, product wise.
The Apple Watch is the only successful product that might have been partly made under his leadership, but probably raw concepts was done earlier by S.J., too.
Iirc he left a multiple year plan with products to safe the future of Apple.
He died late 2011, the Apple Watch was released 2015.

M1 just falls under logical Apple CPU evolution to me.
Apple keeps flip/flopping hardware design, because they are running out of creativity, too.

Apple is only company that has managed to retain some creativity. It is not great, but they are taking one step ahead. Other product companies like Dell, Asus, HP (laptop area) Samsung, Motorola, (mobile) haven't made a huge difference either. All of them are stuck in the same rut trying to figure out what's the next Big Bang.

On the software side, Android, Windows 11 and Chrome OS are all stuck - just delivering a few cosmetic changes.
 
99 million to one man while millions go without food or shelter or any comforts of life.
That is just a perspective thing and not a political or assessment or even an opinion on Tim Cooks compensation.
Just hard to wrap my mind around it.
 
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Hey, a million bucks ain't what it used to be. The average salary in Zimbabwe is over a trillion dollars! (Maybe Apple will pay Tim Cook in "Z" dollars!
 
That is so much money. Really, who is worth that much in one payment?
I could change my tune if MacRumors also finds and posts Tim’s payment to the Federal Government and the State of California in the form of taxes.
It won’t matter what anyone thinks, he could still get the money.
I could boycott Apple, which also makes no difference.
This is better than Amazon perhaps.
Tim is not the owner, just a very well compensated CEO.
This might make Warren Buffet blush, or not.
To think Tim is not a Gigillionaire because he has AT&T Fiber.
 
The market cap growth imo, is the indirect outcome of new products, new services and record breaking revenue.
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I'm a shareholder and I am more than happy to rock this boat.

The product/service decisions that have been pushed through under Tim Cook in the last few years have been questionable at best. Sure, he's great at pulling stuff from the parts bin to make a new product on the cheap and earn some more $$ - But I'm here for the innovation.
Innovation is definitely how long-term growth will be achieved. Don’t want this success story to peak if the iPhone someday no longer draws annual fanfare.
 
One thing to know about the really rich..

There is no amount that's ever enough.

It's not about need or even want.
It becomes about scorekeeping against the others in their sphere.

It ultimately gets down to baseline human ego and competition and totally detaches from reality of needs or even desires.
 
To be fair, the guy has said that he’s going to give most of it away to charity when he passes… Better there than sitting in some offshore account! Baha
Oh please. That is just wealthy people talk for putting it into a bs charity slush fund that my friends & family will "oversee" to avoid paying taxes on the money.

It's one of the oldest scams going
 
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