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why would you sign for something that isn't yours?

I don't know about the US but where I am (in EU), I did it many times for my neighbors. The DHL/UPS guy would ring the bell of my neighbor and if he/she isn't there he would start ringing random apartments in the same building until someone answers. Then he would ask if you can accept the package on behalf of your neighbor, if you do he comes up and you sign. He will then go out and leave a piece of paper in your neighbors mailbox that you have accepted the package. Later the neighbor would pass by and I give him the package.
 
I don't know about the US but where I am (in EU), I did it many times for my neighbors. The DHL/UPS guy would ring the bell of my neighbor and if he/she isn't there he would start ringing random apartments in the same building until someone answers. Then he would ask if you can accept the package on behalf of your neighbor, if you do he comes up and you sign. He will then go out and leave a piece of paper in your neighbors mailbox that you have accepted the package. Later the neighbor would pass by and I give him the package.

Way too idealistic for the US :)
 
Way too idealistic for the US :)

I live in the US, and I've lived in buildings where neighbors do accept deliveries for each other. However, I believe that the way the OP shipped his package specified that UPS/FedEX should not do this with that package -- that it should only be released to the person it was addressed to.
 
i had my blackberry shipped to the wrong address. I live on Columbia Way, and it was shipped to Columbia BLVD. So I went over to their house thinking oh, I bet they are wondering who this package is for, and then I would pick it up. So I get to their house and this little kid answers the door and I said my package was delivered here do you have it? He said oh are you Brandon with the blackberry? I was like yea, thinking how did he know it was a blackberry? He goes well um the thing about that is my dad sold it. I could not believe it. I called the dad he's like, i didn't sell your damn phone, it wasn't even delivered here. I said then how did your son know it was a blackberry? He's like i'm not going to waste my time with this.
So I had a police officer go over there, and I guess the dad got so mad and was getting in the officers face he had to tase him in front of his wife and kid.
But in the end, it was my word against theirs and they just sent me a new phone.

I'm continually amazed at how many dishonest people there are out there in the world. :eek:
 
I don't know about the US but where I am (in EU), I did it many times for my neighbors. The DHL/UPS guy would ring the bell of my neighbor and if he/she isn't there he would start ringing random apartments in the same building until someone answers. Then he would ask if you can accept the package on behalf of your neighbor, if you do he comes up and you sign. He will then go out and leave a piece of paper in your neighbors mailbox that you have accepted the package. Later the neighbor would pass by and I give him the package.

There are still places like that in the US. It just depends on where you live.
 
i had my blackberry shipped to the wrong address. I live on Columbia Way, and it was shipped to Columbia BLVD. So I went over to their house thinking oh, I bet they are wondering who this package is for, and then I would pick it up. So I get to their house and this little kid answers the door and I said my package was delivered here do you have it? He said oh are you Brandon with the blackberry? I was like yea, thinking how did he know it was a blackberry? He goes well um the thing about that is my dad sold it. I could not believe it. I called the dad he's like, i didn't sell your damn phone, it wasn't even delivered here. I said then how did your son know it was a blackberry? He's like i'm not going to waste my time with this.
So I had a police officer go over there, and I guess the dad got so mad and was getting in the officers face he had to tase him in front of his wife and kid.
But in the end, it was my word against theirs and they just sent me a new phone.
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it would have been sweet if you video taped the tasing!!
 
People mistakenly deliver stuffs to my address every so often, but I always feel that it isn't my responsibility to make the effort and return the stuffs. Usually the package will sit by the front door for days or even weeks, then I make the attempt to get rid of it...
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do you feel people should make the effort to return something you lost? :cool:
 
I get packages from other people all the time. I would usually point out the wrong address, but they never ring my door anymore!

So I have to end up driving over to the proper recipient. Very nice when that same person drives back the next month with something that is mine.
 
I wasn't actually just thinking Harlem. :eek: Just what I perceive as a general state of things. :( (Assuming parties involved were total strangers, as in OP).

I was talking about neighbors accepting packages for each other -- so they are aquaintances, not total strangers. Also, like the guy from Europe mentioned, the delivery people would leave a note saying they left your package with so-and-so, so there's written evidence showing they accepted responsibility for your package. Nothing like what happened to the OP's package. I thought you were saying that neighbors don't do this for each other in NY, and I was saying they do.

Yeah but it's still filled with aholes. Trust me, I live there and I am one. ;)

And while Harlem is getting better, there are still some spots that I'd rather not walk through in the middle of the night.

Heh. And agree about Harlem, though driving through it during the day has become quite pleasant.
 
Um, you do know Command-C, Command-V, and Command-P?

How about double checking? Heck, I double checked when shipping something worth $10.

Harlem is the ghetto. It's likely the phone has already been sold, similar to the case of the BLVD.

Police might resolve it but they have better things to do, otherwise file small claims. But I doubt the person signed it with their real name.

When was the last time you been to Harlem? Even some of your people live there now. Real estate and location ( value). When you make comments like that, please have the facts correct.
 
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do you feel people should make the effort to return something you lost? :cool:

If it's reasonable, absolutely. If I found someone's driver's license on the ground I'd throw it in an envelope and mail it to them. Or finding someone's cell phone and calling home or ice and figuring out how to get it back to them.

I don't understand why the concept of helping people who need it has become so foreign to us. I'm not saying that this is your standpoint, I'm speaking generally.
 
There is a general principle that if something is delivered to your house unsolicited you can keep it. It's yours. If this were not true then I (or anyone) could mail some goods to your house then later follow that with a bill. Would make a salesman's job easy wouldn't it?

Next question is when exactly do goods change hands on eBay? Most auctions are considered "as is, where is". Meaning that the buyer takes possession of the goods at the place and condition they are. eBay is not a retail store it's an auction site and different rules apply. So if an item is lost in the mail it was the buyer's property that was lost.

And added to this, you made an error, or rather a gross blunder. You took payment from one person and then gave the iPhone away to a third party. I think when this get sorted out there are only two possabilities (1) You will be out the $450 you got or (2) The third party will decide to do the right thing and walk the iPhone down the street and hand it over.

Generally that works for stuff actually delivered to you (with your name on the box), but stuff delivered to the wrong address usually can be picked up and redelivered to the right address.

During the home improvement boom there were quite a few people that tried to take advantage of if it is delivered to me it is mine mentality.

Funny to see them on the news later with a police officer several days later watching as $20-100k in merchandise is removed from their house and redelivered to the correct address a few doors down.

Heck, I used to turn quite a few installers away from the door when they had the wrong address.

Since it is a real pain when they install your free new object and haul away the old one, and then come back a few days later to take away your new toy leaving an empty hole.
 
If it's reasonable, absolutely. If I found someone's driver's license on the ground I'd throw it in an envelope and mail it to them. Or finding someone's cell phone and calling home or ice and figuring out how to get it back to them.

I don't understand why the concept of helping people who need it has become so foreign to us. I'm not saying that this is your standpoint, I'm speaking generally.

I agree, mistakes happen. We're all human thus prone to make mistakes. So when its within my power i'd return something that's not mine.

That happened to my sister... she lost her wallet and someone shipped it to the address on her drivers license. They put a note inside saying they hoped that she still lived there. Haha

And i've found someone's phone before. Called their "home" link and was able to get the phone back to the owner. They were so happy, more so then I would have been if I kept the phone.

Anyhoo, this is an interesting story, i'm interested in how things turned out with this missing iphone. good luck.
 
I think we all have some threshold, that when crossed we become dishonest. I consider myself honest, but if someone accidentally delivered $100,000.00 to my house, I would keep it. This person clearly had a lower threshold than I, as I'm sure that I have a lower threshold than others.

Just think of the whole thing as paying $400 for a class called "attention to detail 101"
 
I think we all have some threshold, that when crossed we become dishonest. I consider myself honest, but if someone accidentally delivered $100,000.00 to my house, I would keep it. This person clearly had a lower threshold than I, as I'm sure that I have a lower threshold than others.

Just think of the whole thing as paying $400 for a class called "attention to detail 101"
Funny how you mentioned that. Supplier for one of my jobs FedEx $25k worth of stuffs to a wrong address back in February, and we discovered it in June and that stuffs is long gone...
 
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