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Should Apple Continue to Ban Rival Browser Engines on iOS?

DFZD said:
This is a public forum, no need to make personal attacks/insults.

Also what you're essentially saying is that no one should buy something if they don't like any single aspect of it.

The products are good but they can be better, and what is the harm in voicing my opinions on these matters?

Look at the responses on my comment. I'm not the only one facing these issues.
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Is that considered personal attacks now? By that definition, your comment is also a personal attack on me now then, as you are insulting me as if only your opinion matters. ;)

It is a public forum. :)

iPhones and iPads are not cheap. That are expensive devices. If you think that the platform is so bad (per your own words, sucks big time, Apple doesn't get it, etc), yet you're still spending that huge amount of money on them, well.... If you think buying thousands of dollars of products that you don't like are worth it, I guess more power to you? :D
 
While web page rendering can work, running JavaScript will require iOS permissions which aren't public currently.
 
dk001 said:
The ol' "we don't allow that standard functionality in Safari so if you want to be on iOS you will need an app but of course we get our cut $$$$$" ploy.
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As opposed to the "our web app has a live service fee; thank you for your monthly subscription" ploy. :p
Microsoft has tried to do that with its Office 365 nonsense.
 
Yes, as long as they give support to 3rd-party web browser the "adblockers" using uBlock Origin or, at least, content blockers (like Adguard for iOS; I don't use the DNS configuration because of battery drain), then all is well.
I'm an iOS-Windows power user and it sucks to not use Chrome/Edge on iOS just because they doesn't support content blockers.
The built-in adblocker for Edge sucks big time. That's why I sync my bookmarks to iTunes in Windows from IE (yes, the old IE) to my iPhone for Safari (+Adguard).
 
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ian87w said:
Is that considered personal attacks now? By that definition, your comment is also a personal attack on me now then, as you are insulting me as if only your opinion matters. ;)

It is a public forum. :)

iPhones and iPads are not cheap. That are expensive devices. If you think that the platform is so bad (per your own words, sucks big time, Apple doesn't get it, etc), yet you're still spending that huge amount of money on them, well.... If you think buying thousands of dollars of products that you don't like are worth it, I guess more power to you? :D
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Why did you buy S21 after iPhone 7 plus?

It looks like you are just trying to pick a fight because you obviously don't stand with your own beliefs.
 
Starscape said:
Which browsers make your devices run ‘10x hotter’? Both Safari and Chrome are based on WebKit, and while Chrome is resource-heavy, Safari is definitely not a lightweight either.
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No it isn't - Chrome is based on Chromium which is based on Blink. It runs very differently to WebKit.
 
DFZD said:
Why did you buy S21 after iPhone 7 plus?

It looks like you are just trying to pick a fight because you obviously don't stand with your own beliefs.
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Huh? What's my preference on the S21 have anything to do with this discussion? You can check other threads how I'm liking my S21, but it's irrelevant here, and sounds like you're the one wanting to pick a fight.

And talk about personal attack. Huh.

suits yourself, but I'm out.
 
ian87w said:
Google doesn't need to. Due to Chrome's brand dominance on desktops, and the fact that all Android phones with GMS must have Chrome pre-installed, huge majority of Android users won't be using other browsers anyway.

On my Samsung devices, even the Samsung internet browser was an optional install, but Chrome is pre-installed and cannot be uninstalled. Sure, I can install other browsers (and I do), but most consumers won't bother with the defaults.
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Do Android and Google Play Store require all browsers and applications that display webpages to use Chromium engine?
 
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As a recovering user of Microsoft, I don’t want to deal with malware, lack of privacy and all of the other joys of ms and google. I use Apple products now exclusively. I use Apple laptops and tablets as tools rather than a do it yourself kit. safari works fine for me. Why would I change. And as an aside I only get apps from the App Store.
 
If safari worked reliably, it might be different. But there's a lot of sites that simply don't load using it. Others hang, and then load after a force quit. now I'm not talking about sites that stupidly build just for chrome (which is the new ie6), these are basic sites where safari just doesn't work. people don't really care what rendering engine they use, they care if the sites load. So fix WebKit/safari, and it's a moot point.
 
MallardDuck said:
If safari worked reliably, it might be different. But there's a lot of sites that simply don't load using it. Others hang, and then load after a force quit. now I'm not talking about sites that stupidly build just for chrome (which is the new ie6), these are basic sites where safari just doesn't work. people don't really care what rendering engine they use, they care if the sites load. So fix WebKit/safari, and it's a moot point.
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what sites don’t load in safari?
 
Starscape said:
Huh? Safari and Chrome both use WebKit, and WebKit is open source. Even MS Edge uses WebKit.

Android users can install any browser they want, and each browser can and does run on its own render engine, same as on PC/Mac.
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This isn't really true (anymore). On iOS and iPadOS, of course, yes, it is, but Chrome/Chromium/Edge does *NOT* use WebKit and has not for some time. Chrome *did* use WebCore (a subset of WebKit) a long time ago, but not really anymore as WebKit was forked to Blink, which is NOT really WebKit at all anymore (esp with where Apple has taken their implementation which is has large proprietary portions now, too).

Especially stark differences exist in JS implementations, Chrome uses V8.
 
Starscape said:
Which browsers make your devices run ‘10x hotter’? Both Safari and Chrome are based on WebKit, and while Chrome is resource-heavy, Safari is definitely not a lightweight either.
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Negative, Ghostrider:

Chrome/Chromium/Edge does *NOT* use WebKit and has not for some time. Chrome *did* use WebCore (a subset of WebKit) a long time ago, but not really anymore as WebKit was forked to Blink, which is NOT really WebKit at all anymore (esp with where Apple has taken their implementation which is has large proprietary portions now, too).

Especially stark differences exist in JS implementations, Chrome uses V8.
 
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