Should i buy 2017 MBP or wait for 2018 MBP?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by DaveMike11, Dec 2, 2017.

  1. DaveMike11 macrumors regular

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    Hello guys,

    I'm looking to buy my first Macbook Pro 15" . All these years (15 yrs) i have been only using windows computers so far. This time i decided to jump into mac. I have been reading in this forums about the features to be added in the 2018 Macbook Pro Line up. This brings up a common question in this forum. Should I wait now and buy the 2018 Macbook Pro or should I buy the current 2017 Macbook Pro? Is it worth to wait for the new features that might be available in the 2018 models ? Will there be any major refresh in the 2018 models ?

    Pls share your inputs. Thanks for your time.
     
  2. bhatiak macrumors member

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    Not this again. If you NEED one now, then get it. If you dont NEED one, then wait until 2018 because theyll probably be updated and better. Don't think there will be any major update for the 15" MBP, unlike 13" which may get quad core CPU. Thats it, nothing else.
     
  3. DaveMike11 thread starter macrumors regular

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    I agree this question is a personal choice. I jumped into this forum to get some inputs before ordering one. The common complaint i read in this forum is the keyboard issue. Being a first time Mac user i want to get it right since its lot of money to purchase this Macbook.

    Thanks in advance,
     
  4. jerryk macrumors 601

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    I disagree with that.

    The new 15" should get the new hex core processor. Intel will use same techniques in chip designed coupled to power manage that has enabled them to put 4 cores into the 15 and 28W processors used in the 13". The Intel roadmap has 6 cores in the 45W processor used in 15" MBPs.

    Check out this article, https://www.anandtech.com/show/1207...on-processor-lists-leaked-coffee-lake-refresh . Scroll down to the Coffee Lake-H 45W mobile processors and review the i7 processors.
     
  5. htc fan macrumors 6502

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    The issue is more with last years model, I have both 2016 with touch bar and 2017 without tb. The 2016 model suffers from sticky keys. But, the 2017 doesn’t have this issue at all.
     
  6. Appledoesnotlisten macrumors member

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    When in 2018?
     
  7. The Game 161 macrumors P6

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    I have the 2017 TB and it works great. I can't see what they bring out in 2018 being any better really. If you need one now get one now.
     
  8. ZapNZs macrumors 68020

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    How will you use the computer? (i.e., what type of performance attributes do you need for your workload?)

    How much do you need a computer right now? (i.e., if you wait for the next release and it doesn't come out until mid or late 2018, will that harm your productivity in the meantime?)
     
  9. evec macrumors regular

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    13" quad core CPU will not give you so much other that benchmark,
    the current 8250U is highly restricted by lower core frequency and lower graphic performance,
    as Intel tuned for better result on those short term multi thread run benchmark for marketing.
    The bad news is most PC laptop use some design of 2 core and can not withstand of 4 core and make the system very hot and the result is not real smoother that older CPU.

    MacBook Pro use Iris with 64MB L4 cache, the GPU is easily use of more power that CPU, if use 4 core on current design, simply make the machine hotter and hotter, reduce battery performance, fan noisily, and reduce the GPU performance.
     
  10. TommyilRomano macrumors member

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    I heard in 2024 they will have 32GB graphics and 10TB SSD standard. Best to wait until then.
     
  11. ZapNZs macrumors 68020

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    Yeah...but what about the refresh in 2025?
     
  12. TommyilRomano macrumors member

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    lol...
     
  13. Samuelsan2001 macrumors 604

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    Just not true the quad core 15w and 28w processors and the hex core 45w processors will have the same thermal output as the dual cores and quad cores currently being used, heat and noise should not change at all.
     
  14. Mr. Dee macrumors 68000

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    Jony Ive said he is listening to all the complaints about the current model and he is gonna fix them. So, wait until 2018, which promises even more performance, better keyboard travel and possibly the return of a couple more practical ports like an SD Card reader and magsafe.
     
  15. buran-energia macrumors regular

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    Yes.
     
  16. evec macrumors regular

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    Unfortunately TDP is some but more core require much more power, power =/= TDP.
     
  17. Samuelsan2001 macrumors 604

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    No they have the same thermal limits as before that is the wattage if they created more heat they would use more power and therefore have a higher wattage rating.
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    He is listening, what you consider a complaint may well be a complete non issue to many users and so they listened and decide that keeping it the sameness is what people want. I am afraid if you think most people want bigger thicker legacy ports and performance of a desktop, then you are sorely mistaken about what 95% of people use their laptop for.
     
  18. evec macrumors regular

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    Not true, as kabylake-r four core use more (2x)CPU power that kabylake / skylake two core, thermal limits =/= power, especially for short term (like benchmark), It just heat removal design spec.

    The Kabylake CPU 15W in MacBook Pro Ntb currently peek use up to 40W for CPU Core, more that 70W for GPU core, 5W for EDRAM, not included the PCH/SA, TDP only a reference design for laptop manufacture, and NTB can hold more that 20W in long term CPU running.
     
  19. dmaxdmax macrumors 6502a

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    If you need it, buy it.
    If you want it, wait.

    I've been posting this for years.
     
  20. macosfan macrumors newbie

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    Dave it all depends on your needs. If you need it at this moment don't bother to wait, just go and pick it up. With a Mac you can't go wrong. I recently picked the 2017 Macbook Pro 15 and am now wondering why I hesitated and took so much time to decide. The Macbook is an amazing computer and there's no way you won't like it. You need to figure out your exact needs in terms of what hardware, storage, memory etc and make the right choice. Cheers.
     
  21. Samuelsan2001 macrumors 604

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    And this is all controlled by turbo boost and will work exactly as it does currently, you have still provided no reason for me to believe that it will be any hotter on a quad core rated the same way.
     
  22. Fishrrman macrumors P6

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    Wait. Because...

    ... A redesigned MacBook Pro keyboard is almost certainly coming!
     
  23. rukind2 macrumors member

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    We should be so lucky.
     
  24. dmaxdmax macrumors 6502a

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    I read all the hating and was shocked to actually love the new keyboard. I like it on the laptop as much as my ancient clicky-click wired keyboard on my imac. My kids make fun of me for not using one of our 3 bluetooth keyboards.
     
  25. jerryk macrumors 601

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    While I wish they would go back to longer travel keys and such, I doubt that it is happening. I suspect Apple will make a few minor adjustments to improve the failure rate and call it a day.
     

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