Should I cancel my MBP 2016 order and buy mid-2015

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by iGangsta, Dec 7, 2016.

  1. iGangsta macrumors member

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    I ordered 15" 2.7ghz, 512gb SSD, Radeon 460 MBP a week ago. Im still waiting. I'll use it for video editing.

    Do i make a mistake if i cancel the order and go with 2.5ghz, 512gb ssd, radeon m370x 2015 MBP.

    Its advantages; saving quite money, useful ports and variety. So what about performance? These 3 things are also important.

    What should i do?
     
  2. Teague macrumors newbie

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    I decided to go for a new mid 2015 model to upgrade my 2010 MacBook Pro (hard drive is failing). I'm happy I did. I couldn't justify the extra cost. I tried to.
     
  3. iGangsta thread starter macrumors member

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    CPU performance is so close to each other. But GPU? Radeon 460 looks much more talented.
     
  4. motime macrumors 6502

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    Look up the benchmarks. If you are going to use software like final cut a lot then the new one maybe worth the price. For most people there will hardly be any performance differences between this and last years model.
     
  5. iGangsta, Dec 7, 2016
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    iGangsta thread starter macrumors member

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    I will use it for video editing on FCPX

    Cpu benchmark scores are so close there is nothing confuse. But Radeon 460's OpenCL scores are clearly higher than Nvidia M370X.

    I dont know whether it's worth paying an average of $500 more for this difference.

    2016 MBP $2750
    2015 $2270
    with the exchange rate in my country
     
  6. sparkie7 macrumors 68010

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    Wait for next release
     
  7. Naimfan macrumors 601

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    Get the 2015.

    Better overall machine.
     
  8. motime macrumors 6502

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    Well that is the decision you have to make, no one can really help you here. It depends on how many hours you will actually be doing video editing etc. Personally I opted for last years model as it is way cheaper but I am just a programmer.
     
  9. natebookpro macrumors 6502a

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    These new machines are taking a lot of heat. I just upgraded my mid 2012 rmbp (the last major refresh) to the 2016 and love it. Honestly, for iMovie, Microsoft Office, and Pixelmator, there's a decent speed increase, but not what I'd expect from over 4 years. I personally am loving the keyboard, but I've also heard other people say they hate it. The Touch ID is amazing, speakers sound good, and screen looks amazing. Not to mention it just looks and feels great. I guess I can imagine a few scenarios where it might be practical to buy the 2015, but for me at least, I'm really happy with the decision I made.
     
  10. zackkmac macrumors 6502a

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    I went for the maxed out 2015 and don't regret it at all. I'd have been spending at least $3300 after taxes for a high end 2016 (I have to have 1TB SSD). But, I found my 2015 for $1800 - and it only had 85 charge cycles and has AppleCare til mid-2018. It's in immaculate condition and feels brand new. For the massive amount of money it saved (almost 50%), and for being a more stable/solid machine with more useful ports, if you can find a similar deal, I really recommend it.
     
  11. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

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    I think you should cancel your order. Let someone have the machine who really wants the machine.
     
  12. dk808 macrumors 6502a

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    You can video edit with the 2015 model. Problem is the gpu on that one is hella loud and hot. Also its a lot weaker than the 460
     
  13. dashwin macrumors regular

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    That's an awesome deal, where did you get it from?
     
  14. Jaekae macrumors 6502a

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    The 2015 is worse in everyway, even on ports
     
  15. raqball macrumors 68000

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    LOL

    I'll have whatever this guy / gal is drinking please!
     
  16. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

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    I have both though and he is right.
     
  17. Jaekae macrumors 6502a

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    Slower cpu over time, slower GPU both iGPU and dGPU, slower memory, less versatility and slower ports, worse brigtness on screen, worse color gamut on screen, smaller trackpad, less versatile function keyrow, bigger size, more weight. Slower to type on because the keytravel is higher.

    Thats the 2015
     
  18. raqball, Dec 8, 2016
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    raqball macrumors 68000

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    Man Apple must have really spiked the koolaid with some potent stuff this year... LOL

    The 2016 Pluses -v- the 2015:

    Screen
    Sound
    GPU
    SSD speed
    Build, size and weight

    2015 Pluses -v- the 2016

    Number and type of ports (no dongles needed)
    SD card slot
    Battery life
    Price
    Magsafe

    Draw or you decide:

    CPU (depends on which 2016 you have) The base is no better than the 2015 & worse under heavy load
    Keyboard (some like it and some hate it)
    TrackPad (some like it and some hate it)
    Glowing Apple Logo
    Touchbar (to me is a complete gimmick at the moment and it's not useful or practical)

    I can go on... I get it that people need to self justify their purchase but please think before posting such nonsense...
     
  19. ilian92 macrumors regular

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    It's a Radeon, not an Nvidia. Just thought I'd say that and not contribute further to the thread. :D
     
  20. Jaekae, Dec 8, 2016
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    Jaekae macrumors 6502a

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    Batterylife is the same, number and type of ports the new one win.
    2015 have only 2x usb3 and 2x thunderbolt 2 which is a dead connector type now, so those 2 are useless for the future, and when buying a new laptop most ppl want to keep it for years to come.

    Price is just 200euro difference on similiar spec. and thats because the 2015 dont have a dGPU. But when going refurbished which is just a used computer thats been repaired (but have dGPU). Then it win on price. But not everyone wants to buy a used computer for that amount of money.

    And the possibility to charge and do other things from same port is way more useful than magsafe for someone that keep control of their cables.

    And new one you can daisy chain up to 6 devices on all ports. So a desk setup could be, connect one cable and ready to go.

    Sd card slot is the only thing that is plus on 2015. But all cameras have cable. Which help protect sd cards from wear and tear.

    Its possible to replace cables instead of buying dongles too. Or have a better dock with thunderbolt 3 than a 2015 ever can have.

    And cpu is better over time, the new one can keep the turbospeed for longer than the 2015 ones because of better thermal handling

    But could agree its draw on keyboard, touchbar and trackpad, those depends on what user like, rest is just facts
     
  21. MH01 Suspended

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    I'm in the same situation.

    I bought a 2015 2.8 1TB refurb And 2.7 512 460 a time the same time.

    My issue is that to match the 2015, if actually need to buy a 2.9 1TB 460 for it to be an upgrade, and that is £1000 more

    I will honestly say for the same price , I'd take the 2016 model, for a £1000...no way.

    Other things I will mention, having bought many rev A products...beware.

    The last 2015 model is the last of a refined line, and should be relatively issue free.

    The 2016 model, I'm concerned if the GPU ends up being a long term issue, or what other issues might be present.

    So if you can get a substantial saving, it's your call.

    This coming from someone who bought a top spec 2012 for a premium saw the product fall into a repair program, rev A also carries a price premium for new design...FYI 2013 MacBook Pro model was a nice upgrade over my 2012 and cheaper
     
  22. raqball macrumors 68000

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    You are joking right?

    Again, joking right?

    Wow, just wow!


    I seriously hope you are not serious...


    What? LOL

    I'm sorry but your entire post reads like someone who has been brainwashed by Apple... C'Mon now... Seriously?
     
  23. MH01, Dec 8, 2016
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    The battery life is definitely not the same . I've done extensive testing , 2015 is superior .

    2x USB 3 is plenty for most, you are only getting one extra if power is in and TB3 is backwards compatible to TB2, so the ports are very much useful and most users cannot even saturate TB1 bandwidth let alone TB3, and in cases like eGPUs, even TB3 lacks bandwidth , so via a dongle the TB2 port is just as useful as TB3

    The CPU.....pros / cons , iris pro a major advantage to 2015, performance on par, when pushed they both use the same power hence why the bigger battery in 2015 is an advantage .

    All TB3 docks will work on 2015. All TB2 should work on 2016....i say should cause apple limited comparability from an article I read
     
  24. Jaekae macrumors 6502a

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    You sound like someone that just bought a worse 2015 :D have fun with tech thats outdated on first day
     

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