Should I keep this iPhone? (story)

[DroidRules]

Lots of people said that because he's a douche, he deserves not to get his iPhone back.

You said that everyone who said that deserves to get their devices stolen.

How can you not see the similarities there? they're both clearly related to bad karma.

I stand by what I said you raging hypocrite.

LoL... ok. Sorry your silly logic can't let you understand that they are nothing alike but hey, what ever floats your boat.

 

[Eager Beaver]

Hey guys,
If he doesn't claim it I get it back after a period of time, it goes to someone who actually deserves it, don't know who yet.

That would be me.
Look for a PM with my name and addy

 

[Tsuchiya]

I love the idea of karma, but here I don't see how it can exist should this douchebag get his iPhone back. While using this phone, he displayed some absolutely repulsive behaviour, then later used it as a means to send the OP a threatening message.

That being said, OP ultimately did the right thing by giving the phone in, but I really hope said douchebag isn't smart enough to get in touch with the police about it, he does not deserve his phone back.

 

[RedburnIV]

This.

I can't believe all the dishonest douche bags on this forum. I don't care how big a jerk someone is stealing is stealing is stealing is stealing. I really feel sorry for any of you that said anything other than return the phone to the owner or police. YOU are what's wrong with society today and I hope each and every one of you have items lost/stolen and not returned.

OP, if you need to tell us all how honest you are something tells me you're not as honest as you want us to believe. It's similar to the racist telling us how many black people he's friends with just before telling a racist story/joke.

He didn't steal it and it must be nice to live in your world where everyone is an outstanding citizen and no crimes are committed. Ignorance is bliss.

 

[klover]

I could care less about the phone issue.

I wonder, however, why you didn't ask (read: instruct) this guy to watch his mouth if there were younger children around?

Personally, I'd be embarrassed if I sat next to him through his entire racist, misogynistic, etc. rant only to have an elderly woman be the first to act.

I see the word karma being used a lot in this thread; what does our silence in the face of this kind of stuff mean for us?

 

[abeld61014]

Absolutely. It also makes angels cry, and the Illuminati will reject your membership request.

This made me lol

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Than I'll call you a scumbag. If you really believed in karma, than you would also believe in the fact that karma would get back on him in a different way. If Topic Starter is going to do things on his own, than he's no better than the person who lost his phone.

Again, if you really believed in karma, than you would also believe in the fact that karma would get back on him. Perhaps he will drop his iPhone in the toilet after Topic Starter returned it to him.

Also, I can see why you think people are scumbag when they are racist/homophoic/agressive/disrespectful, but that last thing "foul language" also very much depends on the place.

A good example is for example to compare the United Kingdom and the United States to other European countries like the Netherlands, Germany or Belgium. While it is completely unacceptable to swear in public in the UK and in some extend the US, and music and TV films and series are 'censored' (beep sound) in both countries, no one in for example the Netherlands really cares when you swear in public. When watching Dutch television, you will hear swearing on a lot of channels and it's just "normal".

So here I get back again to my previous post (not directed to you): you can't expect others to live up to your 'rules', 'regulations' and expectations. Everyone has a different culture and it's not up to you to decide whether or not something is good or bad.

(And again, if you really believe in karma, than YOU do the right thing and karma will do the rest).

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I couldn't agree more with you and it's unbelievable people are actually downvoting your post.

Right lets deal with the first part in bold, presuming you meant Then i'll call you a scumbag, wow thanks for that, karma is going is going to get you for that nasty insult of my character

As for your comment about foul language being used depending on the place, well it has been clearly stated it was used on a bus full of people including elderly people within a close vacinity, so why even question it, your answer is right there, UNACCEPTABLE, have respect.

As for the argument i highlighted in red, could not be less relevant if you possibly tried, thats like saying we cant dislike whale hunting, or baby seal clubbing because its accepted somewhere, do me a favour !

I have a contention about the type of person you are from what you say, you would be happy to let the whole world walk all over you, if you saw a young woman being raped you would probably walk on by, phone the police and let it happen, after all its not down to you to inflict justice on bad people is it ?

In response you will say thats an extreme example, so what? Mere shapes and sizes, in the same respect i will argue that your arguments of moral fibre and society coming to a crashing hault because a guy hasnt gone above and beyond and out of his way to return somebodys unecceserily expensive piece of technology is completely out of proportion.

End of.

 

[BiggAW]

This thread is hilarious. My gut reaction was if it's not a CDMA iPhone, don't give it back. Then I remembered you don't have CDMA over there.

Normally, I would say you should return stuff, but given how rude these people were, and how rude they were TO YOU when they sent the text, don't give it back. Keep it, sell, it whatever.

If you feel bad about keeping the money, sell it and donate it to a charity that works with violence against women issues or against hate speech or something.

 

[ThatsMeRight]

This made me lol

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Right lets deal with the first part in bold, presuming you meant Then i'll call you a scumbag, wow thanks for that, karma is going is going to get you for that nasty insult of my character

As for your comment about foul language being used depending on the place, well it has been clearly stated it was used on a bus full of people including elderly people within a close vacinity, so why even question it, your answer is right there, UNACCEPTABLE, have respect.

As for the argument i highlighted in red, could not be less relevant if you possibly tried, thats like saying we cant dislike whale hunting, or baby seal clubbing because its accepted somewhere, do me a favour !

I have a contention about the type of person you are from what you say, you would be happy to let the whole world walk all over you, if you saw a young woman being raped you would probably walk on by, phone the police and let it happen, after all its not down to you to inflict justice on bad people is it ?

In response you will say thats an extreme example, so what? Mere shapes and sizes, in the same respect i will argue that your arguments of moral fibre and society coming to a crashing hault because a guy hasnt gone above and beyond and out of his way to return somebodys unecceserily expensive piece of technology is completely out of proportion.

End of.

You can't even compare a rape to someone swearing. As I said, foul language isn't that bad depending on the place and culture. Americans, and the British, are very sensitive for these things, but as I said, if it's in like any other place in Europe than almost no one will care.

I agree with you that it's at the least stupid to do this in a full bus, but than again, you were talking "in general" as well. So in general, it depends very much on the place where you swear.

I am not saying you can't dislike it, I'm saying that you can't expect others to live up to your standards and you are hurting no one when you are swearing (except, maybe, when you are addressing it to someone - but than again, most people (in Europe anyway), will deal with it and just ignore it.

Your response to my post tells me that you are very sensitive for swearing and these kind of 'issues'. Again, it's indeed 'not nice' if someone is swearing in public and I myself would try to avoid swearing in public, but if you for some reason hear it than deal with it: you are at a public place. You could argue that the person swearing is the person who is at fault, but I also believe you can argue you are at fault because you could have expected to hear bad language in a public space. There are two ways to look at it.

I also agree with you that it is 'not nice' to swear in a bus with elderly and perhaps younger children, because you are in a very public place, but it's not a reason to keep a personal belonging from someone else.

All you can do is try to do your best to be a good person, but don't punish others because of what you think is wrong. We have laws and issues like these should be solved in court.

PS
It appears to me that you are insulted by me because I said "Than I'll call you a scumbag." This is where we are different. I don't really believe that "scumbag" is insulting, but you apparently do. So if you are insulted by me, I apologize.

 

[Acorn]

The issue I have is the guy is a total wad. Even giving it back I wouldnt want to deal with his attitude or his accusations. I wouldnt keep it either though. I vote give to police and let them deal with his attitude. then you dont have to deal with him showing up with 10 of his friends ready to wreck the person who took his phone.

 

[ideal.dreams]

After the display he put on, I would keep it for sure. Do a wipe in settings, restore as a new phone in iTunes, and forget the guy. He deserves it.

 

[Acorn]

I didnt read the whole thread so i missed the part where you dropped it off at the police. good for you. if the guy has more then one braincell he will call his phone and the police will pick up and he can go get it.

 

[ET iPhone Home]

Has it been 3 mos. or how ever long it takes to finally keep that phone. Punishment is long enough, I say, have him pick it up either at a Gay Bar (this according to your post) or at Senior Citizen Convalescent Home (this according to how rude he was towards that lady) to teach him a lesson about manners and respect from others.

 

[Bomix]

good thing you gave it back life is a test at times it's hard, but you should always do what's right. -within logical reasoning.

 

[HKUSP.40]

I didnt read the whole thread so i missed the part where you dropped it off at the police. good for you. if the guy has more then one braincell he will call his phone and the police will pick up and he can go get it.

Maybe Karma will get him back and he'll have a warrant for his arrest when his dumbass goes to get his phone. HAHA!

 

[abeld61014]

Thatsmeright i appreciate the apology, but what you are missing is the fact that im not too bothered about the language itself, it is foul and shouldnt be tolerated but i agree that this is no reason for keeping the phone in itself, that would be ridiculous.

The problem is, OP has stated he was making views of a racist and sexist nature as well, and then when challenged politely by an elderly woman made a horrid remark about her, that is not acceptable from a human being in any way, which is why i would not feel sorry for him for losing a phone.

The problem is, this kind of behaviour is NOT dealt with by our legal system, it is extremely extremely rare even with video and audio technology that anybody is punished for these views, sadly, which is why i would smile a little if the OP kept the phone and the big oaf finally got some comupance for his actions cause you can bet your bollocks to a barndance that if the situation was reversed he would sell the phone for beer money and spend it as fast as he can to avoid paying child support, or some similar scenario.

All in all however i am only going on the OP description of the man i have never seen him, but if what he stated is 100% accurate, then he deserves alot worse than what is happening to him in this situation, its a phone at the end of the day, its a mere inconvenience.