should i wait or buy now?

ginofresh

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so i am confused i want a macbook pro but i just dont know if i should wait for the new macbook pro? or get it now, i have no problem waiting as i been doing that now but i been hearing so many thing's? that they are going to make the new macbook pro better? my main questions is waiting for the 2017 macbook would it be that big of a change or no?
 

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so i am confused i want a macbook pro but i just dont know if i should wait for the new macbook pro? or get it now, i have no problem waiting as i been doing that now but i been hearing so many thing's? that they are going to make the new macbook pro better? my main questions is waiting for the 2017 macbook would it be that big of a change or no?
'17 won't likely be that big of a change but it will fix all the annoying youth problems of the first-of-new-design model which '16 is. So preferably wait until autumn and buy '17 then.
Also it depends on what your current model is. If it's any of the Retinas (2012 and higher) - wait, they're good enough to last one more half a year. If it's something older it depends on your wishes IMHO - I would still wait but you might choose not to.
 

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'17 won't likely be that big of a change but it will fix all the annoying youth problems of the first-of-new-design model which '16 is. So preferably wait until autumn and buy '17 then.
Considering the problems tend to vary depending on who you ask, the bold part might be a bit much. There WILL be people having problems with the next model as well, that's a given.

Secondly, no one (besides Apple) knows what the next model will be like for sure. Once again, if you need a computer now, buy one now. If you can wait, do that. The thing is, though, there will always be a next model more or less around the corner.

For what it's worth, I'm very happy with my 13" tbMBP and have experienced no problems with it. Some others obviously don't agree, and that's fine. Nothing is ever perfect for everyone, not even MBP's. Gasp.

EDIT: Dadgummit, reading Sanpete's post just now, and mine is practically a repost of his. Oh well.
 

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OP:

We are at least 7-9 months away from seeing "new" MacBook Pros, as the current (2016) models have only been out about 5+ months.

Your buying decision should be based upon the timeline above.
 
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Secondly, no one (besides Apple) knows what the next model will be like for sure. Once again, if you need a computer now, buy one now. If you can wait, do that. The thing is, though, there will always be a next model more or less around the corner.
You see, this point is like "let's fight against everything bad and for everything good" i. e. of course it's right but it's meaningless in current situation.

Strictly speaking no one with a NEED for a computer right now should even ask. Any functioning model of any vendor new or used got NOW will be better than not covering THE NEED.

But most people who come to forums can wait. Days. Months. Some (like the ones with MBP'15 models) - years. And with them it's not a matter of "grass is green, water is wet, future will always be technologically more advanced".

It's a matter of extremums in this technological advances of the future making a long lasting purchase more and longer valuable. And the nearest extremum for Apple, considering past long and stable experience with Apple, will be in next MBP'17 - there is always a big redesign every several years with first model after this having a lot of youth problems (like '16) and second model solves most of problems since second model is an incremental advancement and not a design leap.
 
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There is no way to say if it is going to be better or not-obviously, Apple is going to present a model they feel is better than the one before it (they want your $$$), but what makes it "better" could come down to what an individual specifically wants & needs. In regards to the current 2016 model, some people feel they are much better than the 2015 they replaced, where as other people feel that the 2016 was a step backwards. There is a lot of subjectivity there, and it is a polarizing topic. So you may like the presumable 2017 model more, but you could like it less.

They may make huge changes to it based on user feedback, or it may be a very minor upgrade with minimal changes. Looking at past releases, the refresh that follows a major redesign is generally minor, and usually aims to hammer out some of the bugs and quirks that the premiere model has. Apple may incorporate a superior battery, change the keyboard slightly to improve durability, offer a far more capable GPU, bring back the iGPU 15-inch model, offer a 15-inch without a touch bar, or they may do none of the above.

It seems like we are still more than half a year away from a release, and it is always possible that the release might not come until early 2018 (many analysts are saying sooner, but no one can predict the future.)
 

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'17 won't likely be that big of a change but it will fix all the annoying youth problems of the first-of-new-design model which '16 is. So preferably wait until autumn and buy '17 then.
Also it depends on what your current model is. If it's any of the Retinas (2012 and higher) - wait, they're good enough to last one more half a year. If it's something older it depends on your wishes IMHO - I would still wait but you might choose not to.
Yes that what I was thinking my laptop now is find it is a 2015 razer blade so I will wait for the 2017 MacBook
 

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OP:

We are at least 7-9 months away from seeing "new" MacBook Pros, as the current (2016) models have only been out about 5+ months.

Your buying decision should be based upon the timeline above.

Why do you think that it will take at least 7 to 9 month for a minor spec-bump?
Normally Apple updates their MBPs every 250 to 300 days (177 days at the moment). And looking forward to the next Intel CPUs, a release in Q4 would be rather foolish. The MBP would again have "old" hardware. A minor update with Kaby Lake and maybe a AMD Radeon Pro 550/550/560 in June/July would be a wiser decision. Everything else will likely stay the same, maybe some bugfixes and a nTB 15" version.
 

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Why do you think that it will take at least 7 to 9 month for a minor spec-bump?
Normally Apple updates their MBPs every 250 to 300 days (177 days at the moment). And looking forward to the next Intel CPUs, a release in Q4 would be rather foolish. The MBP would again have "old" hardware. A minor update with Kaby Lake and maybe a AMD Radeon Pro 550/550/560 in June/July would be a wiser decision. Everything else will likely stay the same, maybe some bugfixes and a nTB 15" version.
Prepare for worse, hope for the best. This is what "Waiting for Skylake" thread taught its veterans. :p
 

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Prepare for worse, hope for the best. This is what "Waiting for Skylake" thread taught its veterans. :p
I was thinking they may do a silent upgrade on MacBooks and macbookpros around June. Kabylake and better GPU would be on the cards with improves battery. I doubt anything else will change.
 

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so i am confused i want a macbook pro but i just dont know if i should wait for the new macbook pro? or get it now, i have no problem waiting as i been doing that now but i been hearing so many thing's? that they are going to make the new macbook pro better? my main questions is waiting for the 2017 macbook would it be that big of a change or no?

Definitely wait.

Maybe they'll put an actual keyboard on the new machines, this one won't squeak and you can type on it for hours without feeling fatigued AND you will FEEL something when you press the keys..
SD card slot, USB, mouse pad that won't take up half the front, proper palm rejection, battery that lasts as long as promised.

Oh but it already comes in space gray and it has an Apple logo on it.....
OK then.....buy it now.
 
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Many people who bought one in October will tell you to buy one, so they feel better.
The people waiting will tell you to wait with them.

The correct answer is to wait.
 

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I bought the 2016 15" refurbished high specs 2 weeks ago and I am really happy with it. It does the job. I don't get why so many people complain about it, really.
If you are happy to wait 6months, take the risk to experience the new issues right away, and pay it full price then wait!
 

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I was in the same situation as you are with an 2011 MBP and watched some interesting vlogs that completly changed my mind. Especially from Mobiletechreview and photoshopCafe.

I dont agree with everything he says but he has nice points.

 
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I caved. Decided to purchase a refurbished 2016 15 inch space grey with the 2.6 i7 processor. I read everything I could, but ultimately decided refurbished was the way to go. It's more computer than I need either way. Also grabbed the pro app bundle. The price seems to good to be try for the price.
 

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Bought 2 days ago, best decision ever! 15 inches MBP 2016

The correct answer is to wait.
I do not think there's a correct answer.....(if you need now, buy, if you don't, wait might be "correct")
Many people who bought one in October will tell you to buy one, so they feel better.
The people waiting will tell you to wait with them.
I bought (2 days ago) and do not need to feel better about my purchase (and I am still on the BUY now bunch.....IF you need a computer).

Do you really think people are that insecure? Because if you do you might need new friends ;)
 
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The Mercurian

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I was in the same situation as you are with an 2011 MBP and watched some interesting vlogs that completly changed my mind. Especially from Mobiletechreview and photoshopCafe.

I dont agree with everything he says but he has nice points.

Great video. That guy gets it. Not overdramatic at all @maflynn, I agree with everything he says. Particularly the thing about dongles/presentations.
 

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It's pretty simple:

Computers are HIGHLY disposable items. So the big question is DO YOU HAVE WORK TO DO NOW that will be aided by a new machine.

If the answer is YES, then just buy a new Laptop.

I've have and have had half a dozen MacBook machines in the last few years and they were all excellent for the work I needed them for. The new Touchbar machines are my favorite, but a MacBook Air is also a nice machine for many professional, student and hobby applications.

Why worry about it? Need a new Laptop? Buy it and get to work. If Apple releases a model that gets you excited in a year or two (which will ALWAYS be happening), then sell the old one and upgrade.

Like I said...why worry? Life is short. I'm working on my Touchbar every day and it's great.


Robert
 

serkan

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He's a little over-dramatic but yes, I think the points he raises are excellent and hit home with me.
In the end of the video he becomes little dramatic isn't it :) Good points though. He changed my mind to be honest.


Great video. That guy gets it. Not overdramatic at all @maflynn, I agree with everything he says. Particularly the thing about dongles/presentations.
The section where he talks about touch screen Mac, he is like come on Apple,mate with the face. I have witnessed in person about presentations and dongles part in our office which sucked really badly right in from of the customer.
 
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The only thing I'm questing is whether I needed a 15 inch touch bar... I've always went with the 13 for my basic needs. Now that I'm getting into realty as a side job, I felt the bigger screen would be nice.
 

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Great video. That guy gets it. Not overdramatic at all @maflynn, I agree with everything he says. Particularly the thing about dongles/presentations.
That's funny because I watched that same video yesterday as it appeared on my u tube homepage and I watched the whole thing it was long lol. He has some good points though. I think he represents a lot of Apple users, committed to the brand yet after trying the 2016 MBP they went back to their older MacBook, in his case his 2012. I've heard a lot of users say they will stick with their older model. This is not what Apple wants to hear as with any business there looking at profits.

He was a little over the top with the dongles rant but I understood where he was coming from, I could tell he wasn't just ranting against Apple as he really wanted to like the 2016. I could tell he did like Apple but that this release wasn't up to par for him.
 
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Wow. Even scrubbing that video it was overly long. Laptops are a tool, not an investment purchase. Buy what you need, when you need it, there will most definitely be something else a year or 3 down the road you will want more than what you currently have.
 
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