CD?…….CD?!?!
Dude, you need to go lossless audio-full digital.
But I realize you’re an older guy in his late 60’s that doesn’t care about that.
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Should rockers who can’t sing anymore still be touring?
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Dude, you need to go lossless audio-full digital.
But I realize you’re an older guy in his late 60’s that doesn’t care about that.
That is what I have heard... I have heard some of the recent live shows on YT, and yeah. We have a local cover band that is freaking awesome. Somehow I feel they will be better than the actual band. But, I still want to see them.
Well, I mean that if your voice is badly struggling on the tail end of your career, it's risky to go through an entire tour months on end pushing it well beyond its limits. At a young age, the voice can usually bounce back after a few months off (I've experienced this firsthand after some vocal damage from singing through a very severe sickness, my voice was back about to about 95% after about six months). But the older the voice gets, the less it can heal. Vocal damage that might heal for a young singer is more likely to be permanent for an older singer.
Bon Jovi is sadly probably causing irreparable damage by continuing to tour with his voice in this state. He's been pushing himself beyond his limits for many years, and that's the sort of thing you can't really afford to do once age sets in. It's something that eventually happens to most rock singers unfortunately (the ones whose voices survived intact changed their technique and style to match their new abilities as they aged).
The OP's two videos were interesting. Jon Bon Jovi frankly sounded like he was having a stroke. That performance honestly worried me. One shot a couple of the band members looked at each other like, "What the... ?"
The Motley Crue video was more interesting, seeing as I just saw Vince Neil in concert a few months back. It was a great show. He was touring with his band, but they did all the major Motley Crue hits. The performances were solid (even if I caught them slowing down a couple of songs a bit) and sounded nothing like that video.
Try to remember that all performers are subject to an off night. They're not machines. But some of the videos in this thread... well I'm glad I didn't have tickets to those shows.
The Motley Crue video was more interesting, seeing as I just saw Vince Neil in concert a few months back. It was a great show. He was touring with his band, but they did all the major Motley Crue hits. The performances were solid (even if I caught them slowing down a couple of songs a bit) and sounded nothing like that video.
Try to remember that all performers are subject to an off night. They're not machines. But some of the videos in this thread... well I'm glad I didn't have tickets to those shows.
To answer the OP question -- "no"
An emphatic "no" in fact
It's really painful to see the videos of the singers/bands who simply can't do it anymore.
We all understand -- father time comes for us all
But just don't do the shows anymore.
Retire, relax -- just gracefully fade away from the spotlight -- please
An emphatic "no" in fact
It's really painful to see the videos of the singers/bands who simply can't do it anymore.
We all understand -- father time comes for us all
But just don't do the shows anymore.
Retire, relax -- just gracefully fade away from the spotlight -- please
Yes, I admit I don’t have any singing experience whatsoever, and even if I did, I’d probably scare half the people around me out of the room.
And just like anything when you use it too much, it wears out. The same could be said for Cartlidge in your joints that just ultimately can’t be replaced once it starts to wear down, but yet; you still have athletes who fight through the pain, even though they know they shouldn’t do that.
I think the main core of the problem is, that these vocalists don’t know how to walk away from something, probably because they enjoy it so much and they’re probably also in denial in the same respect where they can’t accept that they’re not what they once were. But like I mentioned above, if this is what they want to do, they’re selling tickets and fans are having fun, then it is what is.
I think the only thing that will slow down these vocalists at this age still attempting to ‘sing’, is a major health problem or the band completely deteriorates, [Or] all the above.
But in the end, it’s not for us to decide what somebody should do. Like another member said (@Euroamerican) in the first page of this thread, either ‘go or don’t go’, vote with your wallet. The opinion of what a major vocalist should do is really irrelevant, being that clearly they have support from thousands of fans who attend these concerts.
Yes, it's their job. They do this for living.
Now should a lap dance be free after the third cocktail?
Now should a lap dance be free after the third cocktail?
Does the dancer need at least three drinks before she will get on your lap
God that was awful and sad. I would be scared Vince Neill doesn't get a heart attack on stage. Really rock/pop can really take a toll on one's health even if you avoid the drugs and other excess trap.
Agreed 100% although it makes me sad to admit. Genesis has always been my favorite band but when I heard Phil's voice for the recent shows and the fact that they had to have back-up singers because he couldn't pull it off, I was unfortunately very turned off and I would have paid top dollar for that show. On a positive note, his son Nick sounds pretty great on drums although not having Phil holding the sticks for at least some of the show would have also been noticed.
For me, it's depressing to see a band that I loved with only one or two of the original members remaining reduced to playing small town/county fairs. To me, that's when they're hanging on to the glory days for too long.
In the vein of someone who probably did it right, I will cite Julie London. Not rock and roll, but in her time a popular torch singer who ended up in the 1970s TV show Emergency! as nurse Dixie McCall.
Her last studio album was recorded in 1969 and after that she stopped signing professionally, a result of a loss of vocal control due to years of smoking and drinking. But her professional singing career had spanned the mid 1950s until 1969. Bonus tidbit, her husband was Bobby Troupe, who wrote 'Get your kicks on Route 66'.
She quit acting entirely in 1981 and was notoriously difficult to interview after that time.
Then there is forced retirement. This one is rock and roll. Marie Fredriksson, of Roxette. The band had to stop touring because she developed a brain tumor. She was able to give one last performance before her untimely death in December 2019. But because of all the surgeries she'd undergone her vocal strength was much diminished.
Her last studio album was recorded in 1969 and after that she stopped signing professionally, a result of a loss of vocal control due to years of smoking and drinking. But her professional singing career had spanned the mid 1950s until 1969. Bonus tidbit, her husband was Bobby Troupe, who wrote 'Get your kicks on Route 66'.
She quit acting entirely in 1981 and was notoriously difficult to interview after that time.
Then there is forced retirement. This one is rock and roll. Marie Fredriksson, of Roxette. The band had to stop touring because she developed a brain tumor. She was able to give one last performance before her untimely death in December 2019. But because of all the surgeries she'd undergone her vocal strength was much diminished.
CD?…….CD?!?!
Dude, you need to go lossless audio-full digital.
I’m not an audiophile so I just imported my CDs into iTunes years ago and listen to that.
Mid 50s by the way.
I didn't know that. That show was a favourite of my sis and myself as small kids. I remember Marie Fredriksson as well...
I still have my CD tower in the garage, full of my CDs. Goodwill also makes acquiring CDs cheap and easy.
I'm 51, and I'd rather buy a CD and rip the tracks than deal with DRM.
One of her best known songs was Cry Me a River.I didn't know that. That show was a favourite of my sis and myself as small kids. I remember Marie Fredriksson as well...
EDIT: Oh yeah, Troupe was her second husband. Her first husband was Jack Web, the guy who produced Dragnet, Adam-12 and Emergency!
This one takes the cake..Meatloaf (RIP), at the Australian Rules Football Grand Final in 2011. Just hideous:
I read that Roxy Music is doing a 50th anniversary tour this year. I'm really curious to see how Bryan Ferry's voice has held up, but he's not been a guy who's been touring constantly for years and presumably he's been taking care of himself.
Siouxsie Sioux retired from music after losing her singing voice, and her split from Budgie effectively ended the Banshees regardless. She's a big loss — glad I got to see her perform a few times back in the day.
Siouxsie Sioux retired from music after losing her singing voice, and her split from Budgie effectively ended the Banshees regardless. She's a big loss — glad I got to see her perform a few times back in the day.
Genesis: As others have said and as I commented on in another thread seeing the YT videos from the last concert was just plain depressing. I absolutely love the Gabriel years and the first couple of albums under Collins and always held out hope that the original lineup would tour again but looking back on it I wonder if Gabriel's reluctance to tour as Genesis was based on knowing he couldn't do it justice anymore. Thankfully we still have The Musical Box (tribute) and Steve Hackett touring with Nad Sylvan, both are wonderful to see and hear.
Rush: Another of my absolute favorite bands, up to Grace Under Pressure, that became almost painful to see live in the last few years. All incredible talents but Geddy's voice just couldn't hold up. I almost wish that after 1990 they would have found someone who could carry his tone to tour with.
Now to the flip side:
Yes, well specifically Jon Anderson. Obviously you can hear age in his voice but last time I saw him perform it was still strong and paid tribute to his early days.
Rush: Another of my absolute favorite bands, up to Grace Under Pressure, that became almost painful to see live in the last few years. All incredible talents but Geddy's voice just couldn't hold up. I almost wish that after 1990 they would have found someone who could carry his tone to tour with.
Now to the flip side:
Yes, well specifically Jon Anderson. Obviously you can hear age in his voice but last time I saw him perform it was still strong and paid tribute to his early days.
That one, I'd pay to see. Bryan was a crooner, not a rock singer, but even on his later albums you could hear the toll tobacco was taking. Have a copy of his show in Nice, France, which is incredible.
Oh, and CBS did an interview with David Bryne (Talking Heads). He's doing a very successful Broadway show right now, sings ALL the songs while dancing, six shows a week. He sounded great on the program.
He's 69.
He's 69.
I still have my CD tower in the garage, full of my CDs. Goodwill also makes acquiring CDs cheap and easy.
I'm 51, and I'd rather buy a CD and rip the tracks than deal with DRM.
Goodwill has been the go to place for used CD's for me for a while now. Yard/garage sales are another option. Both are hit and miss but you can find some gems if you look hard enough.
I have a CD collection just north of 1500 cd's and rip everything to flac and play them via Plex. We try to hit the local thrift stores at least once a month. We have have a flea market that we try and go to once a month, which usually has a pretty good selection and the costs are almost inline with Goodwill and company.
American Utopia is a great show. I saw it on commercial-free TV a couple of months ago. Well worth a watch if one likes David Byrne.Oh, and CBS did an interview with David Bryne (Talking Heads). He's doing a very successful Broadway show right now, sings ALL the songs while dancing, six shows a week. He sounded great on the program.
He's 69.